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Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: crockett on November 21, 2007, 02:12:18 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7105001.stm


Guess Bush lied.. as if it was very hard to figure that out..
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: SteveBailey on November 21, 2007, 02:17:30 AM
I read the aritcle.  why don't you tell me what he lied about, because it doesn't say he lied about anything.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: rpm on November 21, 2007, 02:22:04 AM
Hmm, this can't be good...
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Originally posted by former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan
"I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice-president, the president's chief of staff, and the president himself."



TR--S-N   "I'd like to solve the puzzle!"
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: SteveBailey on November 21, 2007, 02:41:25 AM
His statement does not make any sense.  The leak came from elsewhere as has been well established.  Do you guys drink whatever koolaid is put before you?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: rpm on November 21, 2007, 03:09:25 AM
(http://blog.kir.com/archives/john-dean.jpg)
Does this face look familiar or do you ignore whatever bad news is put before you?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: FBplmmr on November 21, 2007, 04:59:34 AM
Gee, someone who has a book coming out, suddenly has 'groundbreaking' news.

:lol
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Thrawn on November 21, 2007, 07:21:37 AM
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
Gee, someone who has a book coming out, suddenly has 'groundbreaking' news.

:lol



Doesn't mean what he was saying isn't true.  Just means that he decided to sit on it until he could make money off it.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: john9001 on November 21, 2007, 08:16:07 AM
Scott McClellan is trying to sell a book, next stop, oprah show.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Phaser11 on November 21, 2007, 09:14:07 AM
Of course he lied.

 You have to have something in you book to get people to buy it.:rofl
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Yeager on November 21, 2007, 09:45:06 AM
the one thing about this case that has always bugged me is this:  Why would so much effort and potential harm be invested in "outing" plame?  I mean, of all the people in government, who gives a rats bellybutton about this one particular employee.  As far as I can tell, she and her husband were tiny little insignificant cogs in the vast unethical washington political machine.

The only other comment I can make is that: she and her husband obviously were political shrills of the democratic power base in washington but still, very insiginicant people as far as I can tell.  I would not have invested so much potential loss in outing either of them.  Some one know why they were so important as to risk all this?  or was it just a vile political assassination put forth by a vice president with nothing better to do?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: AKIron on November 21, 2007, 09:45:43 AM
Like this is the first time Bush has been named in this.  :rolleyes:
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Cypher on November 21, 2007, 10:11:32 AM
ofcourse he did it. it was right after he finished planning to destroy that bridge in what was it? wisconsin? Oh and after he sold us out to the martians.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Eagler on November 21, 2007, 04:16:47 PM
this is about blowing the cover of some ho who wasn't even under cover?

no witch hunt here

LOL
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: JB88 on November 21, 2007, 05:51:34 PM
doesn't make it right eagler.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Eagler on November 21, 2007, 06:12:09 PM
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Originally posted by JB88
doesn't make it right eagler.


it makes it irrelevant
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 06:15:45 PM
About as relevant as a blowjob. ;)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: JB88 on November 21, 2007, 06:18:16 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
it makes it irrelevant


it makes it unethical and illegal.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: john9001 on November 21, 2007, 06:19:12 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
About as relevant as a blowjob. ;)


it wasn't about a blowjob, it was about lying under oath.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: JB88 on November 21, 2007, 06:20:33 PM
ohhhh, lying.

sooooo....(fill in the blanks)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 06:21:42 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
it wasn't about a blowjob, it was about lying under oath.


Ain't that kinda like "It's not about reasonable suspician, it's about resisting arrest?" ;)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: rpm on November 21, 2007, 06:22:08 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
this is about blowing the cover of some ho who wasn't even under cover?

no witch hunt here

LOL
According to Plame herself, she was indeed undercover working on the WMD in Iraq. She was a covert operative, not a secretary or a "ho".  If she was not working on classified stuff, why did the CIA censor 80% of her book describing her duties as classified?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: john9001 on November 21, 2007, 06:26:32 PM
she was a analyst working at CIA HQ, and if she a secret agent how do you know what she was working on?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 06:32:16 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
she was a analyst working at CIA HQ, and if she a secret agent how do you know what she was working on?


Proudly obtuse! (shakes head)

I doubt either of you even knew she existed before the Bush administration set in motion the events that made ... front ... page .... news. ;)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: FBplmmr on November 21, 2007, 06:46:27 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Proudly obtuse! (shakes head)

I doubt either of you even knew she existed before the Bush administration set in motion the events that made ... front ... page .... news. ;)


Soo..does that make me a secret agent too? Will I be receiving one of those nifty decoder rings?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 06:54:26 PM
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
Soo..does that make me a secret agent too? Will I be receiving one of those nifty decoder rings?


Yeah. Your agent identity code will be T.A.R.D. 007. ;)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 21, 2007, 06:58:47 PM
oh great one arlo, posting publicly? might as well go tell all the terrorists his agent id code and current location....duh...in-cog-ni-to
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: john9001 on November 21, 2007, 07:00:22 PM
Novak did not name her, he only said that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, it was Wilson who "outed" his own wife by naming her.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 07:03:27 PM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
oh great one arlo, posting publicly? might as well go tell all the terrorists his agent id code and current location....duh...in-cog-ni-to


I take full responsibility for any and all repercussions. The buck stops here.

:D
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 07:05:24 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
Novak did not name her, he only said that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, it was Wilson who "outed" his own wife by naming her.


I guess, by that logic, if I tell everyone that your wife's husband is an idiot I'm not revealing anything derogatory about you? :)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: rpm on November 21, 2007, 07:07:30 PM
John, this may come as a shock to you, but she has done interviews. How many have you watched or read before forming your opinion?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: john9001 on November 21, 2007, 07:18:33 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
I guess, by that logic, if I tell everyone that your wife's husband is an idiot I'm not revealing anything derogatory about you? :)


my ex-wife's present husband is a idiot, i tried to warn him but he married her anyway. :lol
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Arlo on November 21, 2007, 07:23:00 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
my ex-wife's present husband is a idiot, i tried to warn him be he married her anyway. :lol


Made me laugh. Damn. ;)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: AWMac on November 21, 2007, 07:31:24 PM
Let the "Plame Wars" begin....

If you put a "Plame" out will it stop "Burn" in?

:noid

Mac
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 21, 2007, 09:27:34 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
I take full responsibility for any and all repercussions. The buck stops here.

:D



woohoo

confesion! did anyone get that on film?
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 21, 2007, 10:55:16 PM
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NYT Source (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/ex-aides-book-may-clear-bush-in-cia-leak/?hp) When we wrote about this yesterday, that was clearly one of the possible outcomes, although one that will disappoint opponents of the president who were hoping for him to be directly tied to one of the biggest scandals of his administration.

“Sorry, suckers,” Greg Sargent wrote at The Horse’s Mouth, “It looks like McClellan will actually exonerate Bush for his role in Plamegate.”


One should at least let the smoke clear before jumping to forgone conclusions.
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: FBplmmr on November 21, 2007, 11:25:35 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah. Your agent identity code will be T.A.R.D. 007. ;)





The Eagle does not hunt the fly. ;)
Title: Re: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: GovtFlu on November 22, 2007, 12:50:07 AM
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Originally posted by crockett
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7105001.stm


Guess Bush lied.. as if it was very hard to figure that out..


He does actually tell the truth, sometimes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: crockett on November 22, 2007, 02:36:39 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
it makes it irrelevant


Funny how she was "undercover" enough to be working on behalf of the very admin whom outted her. Up until the point she was outted that is..
Title: Re: Re: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: crockett on November 22, 2007, 02:43:06 AM
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Originally posted by GovtFlu
He does actually tell the truth, sometimes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo


I call this country the United States of Amnesia for a reason. :)
Title: Bush named in CIA leak case
Post by: Tigeress on November 22, 2007, 07:16:09 AM
The hardliners on the right are renowned for their goonsmanship tactics.
And they got caught.

Bush is, in any event, a lame duck... quack thump quack thump quack thump; and has been poorly advised from the beginning, imv... some of which may have set in motion a watergate-esque cover-up on his part... if so, what a screw-up to tack onto his already tarnished legacy.

Poor guy, if only he had enough self-confidence and leadership abilities to do his own thinking instead of listening to the whisperers.

I seriously feel sorry for Bush.

TIGERESS