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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Jackal1 on November 21, 2007, 04:26:13 AM
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Starting night before last I had a large drop in FRs in the orange arena. Finaly got to the pont that I logged off.
I didn`t think too much about it when I talked to a couple of other players who had the same experience.
Then upon logging in yesterday I noticed the same thing.
Something happening here that I don`t know about?
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Large terrain and most likely spawning right in the middle of a lot of action when entering the arena would be a guess.
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Plus
No one wants you to play
We all just start looking around in all directions and at you and the server pings you constantly so your packet loss is is increased dramatically
And we all go to Tank Town and hoist beers and laff at you
or
The Texas internet was closed for cleaning the pipeline out west to bumfuc TX
:)
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours
Newbs
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NwBie the only reason I play is that it POs others.
I forgot about the scheduled BF maintenance . :aok
:rofl
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getting the same thing jackal,orange arena i get 10-12 fr.it goes up to 25-30 at an airfield with nobody around.In the other arenas I get a constant 60 fr.gotta be the big map
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I never had this kind of severe FR loss such as this before. The strange thing is that it started out of the blue one night. I had played the large terrain almost exclusively up until that point without a prob. Seems to have gotten a lot better for me in the last few days. I believe it might have been server related.
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Not server related. The server has nothng to do with your local frame rate.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Not server related. The server has nothng to do with your local frame rate.
no but it seems to be the "convenient" excuse these days! LOL!!! :rofl
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Not server related. The server has nothng to do with your local frame rate.
OK. Possibly internet connection to the server?
We have seen the arena go into "frozen molasses" mode on several occasions as of late, sometimes with total freeze. That definitely affects FRs.
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Pay attention.
The server cannot effect frame rate. It cannot cause a pause or stutter on your client. The game runs regardless of what the server is doing.
The only things that can effect frame rate is your computer. Large terrains can impact frame rate, but that has nothing to do with the server.
Pauses and stutters and freezes are all client related issues. They have nothing to do with the server.
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Y'all should know by now that insulting Skuzzy's server is the equivalent of insulting his mother, or telling Mr. Scott that the Enterprise is on the fritz..
But...... keeping this in mind, are we all having mass dimentia? I have been noticing (especially in the blue arena) that this is the common denominator amongst a lot of folks. Also, I've only noticed it in the past couple of days. Lag (not so much stutter, but kills being recorded up to 5 sec. after visual demise of opponent)
Could it be problems across the board with connection? Is it the Holiday online-shopping frenzy?
OR..........ALIENS? :noid
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No one is insulting the server, but some seem to forget I do know a thing or two about how Aces High II works and what roles all the hardware play in that.
I figure if people want to solve their problems they will provide some real information. If all anyone wants to do is complain, then just say so and I will quit trying to help out.
But, when you claim the problem is cased by 'X' and I happen to know for a fact 'X' cannot be the cause, I would be remiss in not pointing that out.
Claiming the server is causing stutters, freezes, pauses in the game is akin to claiming the new gas station that went in down the road must be causing my car to ride horrible amd make awful sounds as it all started when that station opened up. Never mind the flat tire on the car.
The information is available to anyone who really wants it. The Internet is a mess right now. Do not take my word for it. Do a little research and you will find that to be true. Or you can continue to ignore the flat tire.
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i love skuz man's sig.
he prob could change the world with the source code.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
No one is insulting the server, but some seem to forget I do know a thing or two about how Aces High II works and what roles all the hardware play in that.
I figure if people want to solve their problems they will provide some real information. If all anyone wants to do is complain, then just say so and I will quit trying to help out.
But, when you claim the problem is cased by 'X' and I happen to know for a fact 'X' cannot be the cause, I would be remiss in not pointing that out.
Claiming the server is causing stutters, freezes, pauses in the game is akin to claiming the new gas station that went in down the road must be causing my car to ride horrible amd make awful sounds as it all started when that station opened up. Never mind the flat tire on the car.
The information is available to anyone who really wants it. The Internet is a mess right now. Do not take my word for it. Do a little research and you will find that to be true. Or you can continue to ignore the flat tire.
I knew something was up. What it is, I'm not exactly sure. I am the network admin(albeit a small one 10 PC's) at my work amongst other things. I HAVE been noticing some fishy stuff. I thought it was only here at work and tried to smoke it out to no avail. I then started noticing at at home, also.
:noid
No offense intended Skuzzy, I just meant that there Is indeed some internet related issues as of late. I also know that it cant be your server as much as it can't be the proverbial gas station's fault either. But, since it is almost across the board, I was curious to see what your thoughts were. Our company is here in Philadelphia, and our Comcast has been garbage for a few weeks now, including actual hours of down time with no good explanation from Comcast. It is almost to the point where I am going to pay my bill on a pro-rated basis (ie: hours of "up" vs. "down" time. If I can't use it, I'm not paying for it.
Skuzzy
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Here is some information over the noise being made with Comcast (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/comcast-sued-ov.html). There are more links on that page describing what they are doing.
It is effecting all Comcast customers nationwide.
What is not clear yet, is if Road Runner is also doing the same thing. Not everyone is having a bad time of it. Some are having it worse than others and most people are being effected by many things right now.
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All I can say is WOW! This is the first I heard of this. What a crock. All I can respond with is "What's the number for Verizon?"
Speaking of which, I live in a beta test area for Verizon FIOS. My neighbor recently got it and I had to check it out. The difference between it and Comcast was like the difference between a garden hose and Niagra Falls.
What do you know about FIOS as it relates to AH2?
Thanks,
-Dan
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I have FIOS at home. Seems fine. It's all about where you are physically located. I would suspect some areas to be better than others.
All I know about the Comcast fiasco is every since Comcast went nation wide with this monitoring/filtering system, all our Comcast clients have been having some type of trouble.
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I live about 10-15 miles NE of Philly, for what it's worth.
I may soon have a "one nation, under verizon" household. Land line (for office), three cells, right now. I guess I'll need to round it out with Verizon TV and internet soon. I never liked Comcast since they came into this area and "monopolized" the cable industry.
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Geeeez Louise. :rofl
Was trying to help get to the bottom of a problem that is effecting many.
Stated a belief or a theory in one post, asked a question about the internet in another.
Not in the research business.
Just forget I brought it up if it`s gonna cause mass confusion.
I`m sure it will work itself out.
:rolleyes:
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First of all, my manties never get in a wad. I am trying to help. I feel like I am beating my head against the wall as I keep telling people the server does not have anything to do with your local frame rates and people keep coming in here telling me it does.
Stutters/pauses/freezes are almost always resource related problems. I have a full sticky post in this forum dedicated to that very subject. I went into a good deal of of detail describing it and how to deal with it.
Internet connection related problems are a different matter. They can manifest themselves in delays for comms, warps, and other minor ways.
Telling the difference between the two can be difficult. In the case where it is Internet related, the whole game is not effected. Portions or it are. Delays in text or voice updates are a clue. Wapring planes are a clue when nothing else is delaying.
When the game freezes/pauses/stutters in its entirety, then that is a resource issue of some type.
Identifing the problem is the first step towards fixing it. For Internet related issues, ping plots are very helpful. For resource issues, a DXDIAG output along with the current settings of the game are helpful. Actually, for resource related issues you can do a quick test yourself.
Try changing the "Maximum Texture Size" in the "Video Settings" to 128 and running the game. If the pauses/stutters clear up, then you know where the problem lies.
Just FYI, as of this moment, with over 400 players logged into the new server, it is running 95.8% idle. Yes, using less than 5% of the CPU's with over 400 players logged in.
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:rofl
A true Windex/paper towel moment.
Wondered if I gave you enough time. lol
I got a good sig line out of it anyway.
It`s gonna be OK Skuzz.
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Target Name: N/A
IP: 206.16.60.41
Date/Time: 11/28/2007 8:59:07 AM
1 222 ms 187 ms 187 ms 187 ms 250 ms nas44.2ar1.Level3.net [209.247.21.57]
2 202 ms 202 ms N/A 187 ms 218 ms [4.69.7.3]
3 218 ms 187 ms N/A 203 ms 187 ms vlan51.csw1.Dallas1.Level3.ne t [4.68.122.30]
4 187 ms 187 ms N/A 203 ms 187 ms ae-23-79.car3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.69]
5 187 ms 186 ms 186 ms 202 ms 187 ms gr1-a340s2.wswdc.ip.att.net [192.205.34.137]
6 202 ms 202 ms 200 ms 200 ms 218 ms tbr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.86.206]
7 248 ms 186 ms 200 ms 203 ms 217 ms gar5.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.209]
8 262 ms 186 ms 199 ms 187 ms 186 ms mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
9 N/A N/A 187 ms 187 ms 187 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-3.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.206]
10 202 ms 187 ms 187 ms 187 ms 187 ms [206.16.60.41]
Ping statistics for 206.16.60.41
Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 5, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 187ms, Maximum = 202ms, Average = 190ms
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Will try to get one if and when things start bogging again.
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Level3 again. Here is what I get when I trace back to your IP address Jackal. I did test it from the WEB server to make sure the IP address is reachable as well.
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traceroute 209.247.21.57
traceroute to 209.247.21.57 (209.247.21.57), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 206.16.60.33 (206.16.60.33) 0.636 ms 0.595 ms 0.578 ms
2 mdf1-gsr12-1-gig-1-0.dal1.attens.net (63.241.192.249) 0.180 ms 0.196 ms 0.187 ms
3 12.122.255.77 (12.122.255.77) 0.903 ms 1.022 ms 0.831 ms
4 12.123.16.214 (12.123.16.214) 1.556 ms 1.623 ms 1.492 ms
5 12.122.86.209 (12.122.86.209) 1.031 ms 1.008 ms 0.969 ms
6 br2-a340s5.wswdc.ip.att.net (192.205.34.138) 1.358 ms 1.322 ms 1.363 ms
7 vlan79.csw2.Dallas1.Level3.ne t (4.68.19.126) 6.734 ms 11.293 ms 1.690 ms
8 ge-11-0.core1.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.68.122.40) 1.623 ms 1.722 ms 1.628 ms
9 * * *
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Dies in Level3. Not surprising.
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Skuzzy, as the resident geek at my office, I tend to find that 90% of computer issues (at least in my experience) are the result of a PEBKAC error.
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That actually explains a LOT about the past 2-3 years (the time I've had Comcast) and the crappy quality of gaming I've had ever since moving from dial-up....
Sad... Very sad... Too bad they have a monopoly over most of Denver's broadband Internet access.