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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: chrish483 on November 25, 2007, 03:54:30 AM
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not for the GV players, Im a GV player and if you look back into history there were alot more GV's in WW2 then in this game.
look at all the planes you have to choose from, what do we have but a few to choose from,
and dont put the ground crue down, we put field supps to your fields and bring you ammo when you need it, give us ground people the TY that we need in doing what we do.
but having all the options and seletions as the planes have, or even half the amount would be nice,
I have a book on ww2 gv's and most of them would be nice to have and to select from just like you would a plane..
said my piece on what i think so put me down as you all will. but i think we need more GV's in the game to play with.
chrish48
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more things to fly or drive is all good, i think.
that being said, it is 'aces high' for a reason...the GVs are mostly there to give you more things to play with besides planes.
er..so...i agree with you, new stuff is always fun, but i dont know how likely your request is to being answered.
S!
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I can`t ever get the landing gear up on the GVs.
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I'm all for more GV's but I'm even more for more versatility in our existing set.
One thing I'd love to see which was brought up in a wishlist thread is the ability for GV's to resupply aircraft, so you can up an M3 loaded with aircraft supplies, spawn so friendlies can land and resupply without having to RTB.
It'll be one risky procedure, since not everyone would have the ability to land safely on some terrains, and the action is a lot closer, so taking off again is not always going to be a given. This kind of scenario also favours the enemy somewhat since someone tailing above an empty craft can wait until he lands and taxies up to the M3 then come in and get 2 for the price of 1 vulching.
I can see squads like the LTARS making good with this idea, sending a couple of supply M3's up close to a furball with an ostwind escort, resupplying fighters and killing potential vulchers in one mission. Kind of like a mobile small airfeild.:aok
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Last time I checked it was called Aces High..not Mud Movers Anonymous.
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Originally posted by shooter1cac
Last time I checked it was called Aces High..not Mud Movers Anonymous.
:D
Bingo:aok
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I wonder if that has anything to do with the Fact that Aces High is a Flight Sim......
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this game is for the pilots
Bingo! Give that man a cupie doll. :D
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So what brought you to "Aces High" ? Perhaps an advert with lots of plane action? Maybe a search of flight sims? Which ever, somewhere along the line there was some thought process about aircraft.
I'v never seen an "Aces Low" advert.
Without wishing to deprive HTC of revenue maybe ubertankbattles.com is more up your street.
This "Aces Low" thing puzzles me somewhat. Why play a flight game and spend 99% of your time in a tank, as some players do. I mean there's tank games out there....somewhere. Is it bouncy stick settings? No stick? Gave up trying to learn some ACM? Can't be frame rates what with all them trees etc. I really would like to know why folk come to a flight game and spend infinitely more time on the ground.
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I have to agree with the public opinion. I couldn't care less of what happens in the ground. For my knowledge, there are options to choose from if the WWII era ground units (instead of airplanes) give somebody the desired satisfaction - WW2OL for instance is an massive multiplayer online game specifically designed for the ground forces. Instead the flight model of that game sucks Cartmans balls.
Because of the ENY problem, I would instead like to see more early planes to choose from. I'm not so keen to fly a jeep...
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Originally posted by chrish483
not for the GV players, Im a GV player and if you look back into history there were alot more GV's in WW2 then in this game.
look at all the planes you have to choose from, what do we have but a few to choose from,
and dont put the ground crue down, we put field supps to your fields and bring you ammo when you need it, give us ground people the TY that we need in doing what we do.
but having all the options and seletions as the planes have, or even half the amount would be nice,
I have a book on ww2 gv's and most of them would be nice to have and to select from just like you would a plane..
said my piece on what i think so put me down as you all will. but i think we need more GV's in the game to play with.
chrish48
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I came here to fly but I end up GVing a lot. It's fun. The ground battles on the big map have been ferocious at times.
More of everything would be good.
BTW, Jeeps can fly :)
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Originally posted by Jackal1
I can`t ever get the landing gear up on the GVs.
Yeah and have ya ever tried using the Flap/speedbreak on the M-3 and LVT? They need to be remodeled. hehehheheehe:rofl
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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The only reason there are GVs in this game is to give the "pilots" something to bomb! We don't need a bigger variety, from 1000 feet up they all look the same anyway !
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Someday when somebody creates a true integrated WWII battle simulation I'll be all over it. For now, I play Aces High when I want to fly and Day of Defeat or Red Orchestra when I want to be a ground-pounder.
I think GVs in AH have a place, and I enjoy jumping into a M3 to resupply a base or a M16 when a base is getting porked and there's nothing else available. I've also been in a few rather interesting tank battles and pairing up with a friend in the turret is great fun. These missions serve as nothing more than a distraction or time to "cool off" in between flights.
I would like to see more GVs, but I have no problem with HTC focusing on improving the flight sim aspects first.
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"Aces Low" refers to helicopters and they were just on the drawing boards in Sikorsky's mind back during the WW2 era. Ergo, not available.
Hope this helps.
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approx. 2 models of helicopter enterd service for diffrent countrys during ww2, and to my knowledge sikorsky only built one of em, the R-4 I believe.
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I play Aces High when I want to fly and Day of Defeat or Red Orchestra when I want to be a ground-pounder.
YES thats exactly what i do only its Call Of Duty for me :) i pay $14 a month to FLY on a FLIGHT sim :)
my two cents
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There will never be one in this game. This a game that I would call different strokes for different folks. The GVing aspect is what turned me on to this game. I never flew a plane for the first 3 months of my subscription, because I like the OLD MAPS tank battles and the OLD TT. Then one day I upped a fiter an headed to FT and got 3 kills and decided to start flying. You have your goods an bad in this game when in both GV an AC. On the GV front you have people shooting through hills, buildings an trees that kill you( a glitch in the system) In the air you take off an F6F or LA'swing an he still out flies you. You still have those who believe all LTAR's do is HO an ram. I have gotten HOed so much lately that you have TO HO first. I have gotten to the point I wll HO an LA, P51, Typhy, or 190 just so I do not have to chase them around the map. Because 98% of them pick an run. Or my favorite is when 5 AC are on them an they still vulch the field. 99% wont fight unless they have all the alt on you. So I wouldnt call it ACES HIGH because only a few will fight without running then coming back to pick you when you engage another AC. I now enjoy all the aspects of the game. But always look forward to improvments. And am still waiting on the Whirblewind!
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
"Aces Low" refers to helicopters and they were just on the drawing boards in Sikorsky's mind back during the WW2 era. Ergo, not available.
Three helicopters that did see service:
Focke-Achgelis FA 233 - was in serial production from 1941 on, though repeated bombings limited production total to app. 40 units. A captured FA 233 was the first helicopter to cross the English Channel
Flettner FL 282
Sikorsky R4 - first truly mass produced helicopter, saw service from 1944 on.
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I'll leave it up to HTC and their marketing plan to figure out what is best for AH to grow it's subscriber base. That is because to us it's just a form of entertainment, to them it's their livelihood. The best case scenario is one that includes prosperity for HTC and staff and where Dale doesn't get bored with his product and decides to sell.
The ability of having combined forces battles draws more subscribers than pure aerial combat, I think the progression of AH has been good for the longevity of AH. I also believe that people who think that one genre of play in AH should be the only focus over any other are being myopic in their observations and wants.
It's all good and it is getting better year by year.
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OP unleashed the flood gates with that post :aok
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Ok lets say u get ur wish uber ground game ur next threads gonna
be about frame rate there has to be a cut off somewhere or better get out the ol wallet and upgrade to mega pc HT made no bones about it flight sim 1st rest icing on the cake better learn some acm
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if its ground combat you like, go to World War Two Online http://www.wwiionline.com . The air war is arcadish compared to Aces High but the ground war is just .. perfect!.
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Just done a model V model score search in expanded files. Start of tour todate.
Spit 16 V Spit 16 = One thousand five hundred and plenty.
Pnz V Pnz (get this) Twenty nine freakin thousand seven hundred and ninty bleedin nine :eek:
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Originally posted by Tac
if its ground combat you like, go to World War Two Online http://www.wwiionline.com . The air war is arcadish compared to Aces High but the ground war is just .. perfect!.
FAR from perfect. The Olympic running sappers are everywhere and more deadly than enemy tanks. Its become a first person shooter with tanks and planes added for targets.
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If your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, it's probably a helicopter and therefore unsafe.
:D
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Originally posted by LYNX
Pnz V Pnz (get this) Twenty nine freakin thousand seven hundred and ninty bleedin nine :eek:
Thats Sig-able :rofl
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Originally posted by chrish483
not for the GV players, Im a GV player and if you look back into history there were alot more GV's in WW2 then in this game.
look at all the planes you have to choose from, what do we have but a few to choose from,
and dont put the ground crue down, we put field supps to your fields and bring you ammo when you need it, give us ground people the TY that we need in doing what we do.
but having all the options and seletions as the planes have, or even half the amount would be nice,
I have a book on ww2 gv's and most of them would be nice to have and to select from just like you would a plane..
said my piece on what i think so put me down as you all will. but i think we need more GV's in the game to play with.
chrish48
gotta remember 1 thing.........you can't rule the ground if you don't rule the air:D
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Originally posted by LYNX
Just done a model V model score search in expanded files. Start of tour todate.
Spit 16 V Spit 16 = One thousand five hundred and plenty.
Pnz V Pnz (get this) Twenty nine freakin thousand seven hundred and ninty bleedin nine :eek:
I find that verrrryyy interesting.....and amusing. :lol
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Originally posted by LYNX
Just done a model V model score search in expanded files. Start of tour todate.
Spit 16 V Spit 16 = One thousand five hundred and plenty.
Pnz V Pnz (get this) Twenty nine freakin thousand seven hundred and ninty bleedin nine :eek:
That's not surprising given the number of possible aircraft choices vs the number of possible vehicle choices. Just to pick a Spit XVI then also run into another one is a statistically much smaller probability than picking a Panzer and running into another one (I know, I know, the XVI is popular).
Stats can also be skewed to make a case for whatever your argument is, so I did a serch of Spit XVI vs all models and Panzer vs all models. In this search Spits = 24,910 while Panzers = 59,051 (kills by only), barely a 2:1 advantage for the Panzer vs. your example at almost 20:1. By extension, if the numbers were similar among the 78 available aircraft and the 10 available vehicles, the numbers would come to Airplanes = 1,942,980 vs Vehicles = 590,510, almost 4:1 in favor of aircraft (again, I know, the Spit is popular but so is the Panzer).
Maybe someone has the time to do each of the vehicle searches and back them out of the all vs all search.
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Originally posted by Lye-El
I find that verrrryyy interesting.....and amusing. :lol
Well, there are many more planes than GV in game. The Panzer is basically the bread & butter tank of AH2, while you have a much broader choice in planes.
At this moment, kills & deaths in current tour are distributed as follows:
Fighters (58 models): 636K
Vehicle & Boats (12 models): 316K - (Panzer IV has 40% of all GV kills&deaths!)
Bombers(18 models): 121K
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Speaking of GV'ers why is it GVer's never salute each other?
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now now fellas you know this game is nothing about the Air Craft or the Ground Vehicles. ITS ALL ABOUT THE SHEEP HTC PLEASE SEND BETTER LOOKING SHEEP.
ok for real tho. everyone knows this is not all about the Air Combat any more. anyone that isnt affraid to gv for 5 minutes knows that. alot of us vets like to keep seeing Aces High as a Flight Sim only. sorry fellas Aces High has grown. so get use to it.
if you cant gv so what. if you cant fly so what. spend your 15 bucks a month the way you want to and let others be.
Chrish if you would like to see more GVs in this game, there is a forum called Wish List post it there or you can email support@hitechcreations.com and they will look into it.
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Originally posted by crockett
Speaking of GV'ers why is it GVer's never salute each other?
they do try to pay attention to 200 more often then. i dont remember an LTAR not saluting another person
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Originally posted by crockett
Speaking of GV'ers why is it GVer's never salute each other?
Who says they don't?
It is probably less common because of the nature of the fight. GV fights tend to be more bar room brawl than fencing match. You don't generally win a GV fight by wowing your opponent with a good maneuver. You won't duel with a GV opponent for 5 minutes and throw a salute afterwards like you might in an airplane. On the contrary -- you often die without ever seeing your opponent first -- and I don't know very may pilots who throw salutes for getting "cherry picked."
That being said, the "lone gunman" on the edge of town that single-handedly holds off your assault for 15 minutes before being overwhelmed will most certainly get an afterwards (as long as the VH is down :lol).
To the topic at hand, there is no comparison to the GV game in AH that I have encountered. Vehicles in WWIIOL, BF1942, etc. etc. are actually sideshows to the infantry war. AH has no infantry war, so the vehicles are front and center. HiTech's little "sideshow" outshines the others IMO.
I would love to see more variety in the ground war, especially some EW and MW variants . . . but I won't hold my breath.
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Originally posted by Heater
I wonder if that has anything to do with the Fact that Aces High is a Flight Sim......
:aok :aok :aok
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Originally posted by Jackal1
I can`t ever get the landing gear up on the GVs.
Try backing into a pine tree - that'll put your landing gear up :lol
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Originally posted by kilz
they do try to pay attention to 200 more often then. i dont remember an LTAR not saluting another person
I have to agree with Kilz on this one. Received plenty of salutes from the LTARS, given a few too.
Haven't had a single negative run in with an LTAR yet... (well once, when he topped out an immel right in front of me. I gave him a face full... but who wouldn't?)
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Couple things...there is a reason for all the different choices we have
for vehicles...they are there to be used. I fail to see what difference it
makes to the great unwashed mob which ones you choose.
Second, whining in here is just setting yourself up for the flames.
Venting is all well and good, just have to remember how sympathetic your
audience is going to be.
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This aint no game sonny, its a tractical WWII fighter simulation.
Who gives a rats fuzzy six aobut GVs, all they are, are targets for those of us that have a need for speed
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Originally posted by LYNX
Just done a model V model score search in expanded files. Start of tour todate.
Spit 16 V Spit 16 = One thousand five hundred and plenty.
Pnz V Pnz (get this) Twenty nine freakin thousand seven hundred and ninty bleedin nine :eek:
Well, who's got time to fly then, WOW.
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GV's are an integral part of the game (notice "game", and not flight sim) and are enjoyed by hundreds if not thousands of the player base.
In fact all of the top ranked players spend a lot of time in GV's, now I find this a particularly strange fact. I wonder why this is ?
Even Lynx spent over 21 hours in GV's this tour, and he apparently hates them ;)
wipass
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I have about 78, hmmmm. Must be those late night jeep races.:noid
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I LOVE GVing
I can't count the times I've run into a base with my Little Red M8 Corvette, knocked out all ords and all ack to set up a base for a brutal onslaught before anyone could get up to kill me.
And smacking a B-25 right in the face with an HE round before it can get a tight bead gets me all tingly inside. Ooo...I got goosebumps just thinking about it!
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Time to wipe your keyboard Erkel?
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Originally posted by chrish483
not for the GV players, Im a GV player and if you look back into history there were alot more GV's in WW2 then in this game. chrish48
Well, it is called Aces High, not Aces Low....
Shamroc
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Originally posted by shamroc
Well, it is called Aces High, not Aces Low....
Shamroc
I am sorry, this is such a worn out phrase…
Gv’s are in the game, part of the game and I suspect are here to stay. If you don’t like them, then don’t play that part of the game, simple.
Personally, I like to GV, but I also like to furball, level bomb, jabo, man a ground gun, man a 5” gun, all of it.
I think they should change the name to Aces Low as it represents a large majority of the people who post on these boards in reference to there level of class
SHEEZE!!
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Originally posted by Scca
I am sorry, this is such a worn out phrase…
Gv’s are in the game, part of the game and I suspect are here to stay. If you don’t like them, then don’t play that part of the game, simple.
Personally, I like to GV, but I also like to furball, level bomb, jabo, man a ground gun, man a 5” gun, all of it.
I think they should change the name to Aces Low as it represents a large majority of the people who post on these boards in reference to there level of class
SHEEZE!!
He said nothing low class. He didn't attack anyone. He made a statement that is factual being this is a flight game at heart. The rest is just filler. Doesn't matter if you like GVs or not.
This is not WW2 Online.
Maybe you should look in the mirror before attacking anyone.
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Originally posted by Scca
I think they should change the name to Aces Low as it represents a large majority of the people who post on these boards in reference to there level of class
SHEEZE!!
WELL I NEVER !! HMMMMPHHHH!!!! :lol
Shamroc
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Originally posted by Shuffler
He said nothing low class. He didn't attack anyone. He made a statement that is factual being this is a flight game at heart. The rest is just filler. Doesn't matter if you like GVs or not.
This is not WW2 Online.
Maybe you should look in the mirror before attacking anyone.
Duck, SCCA!
:noid
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Originally posted by Shuffler
He said nothing low class. He didn't attack anyone. He made a statement that is factual being this is a flight game at heart. The rest is just filler. Doesn't matter if you like GVs or not.
This is not WW2 Online.
Maybe you should look in the mirror before attacking anyone.
you made a mark by saying that shuffler.
AH has grown beyond just for flying its now getting into the full aspect of WW2 Ground and air War,, as it should be, someone said you cant rule the air without ruling the ground and thats tru we need each other to win a war.
Kilz love ya on the form but hate you on the battle field :-) your to good in a GV, hate it when you smoke up a camped spawn point:aok you did make a great point there, i have some ideas on some good GVs to put into the game,
if they would change the name of this it should be simply WW2 all out frickin war and alot of fun to boot.
I love this game but i see already see the changes there doing to keep it alive and fun by changing the maps, titanic tuesday now, my hats off to HTC trying to keep things lively and upbeat and i think there doing one hell of a job for my money spent.
but i think another step in this war is to get a few more GV's into action so more people can do more stuff things what ever they enjoy doing and willing to pay to do it. ITS all about fun right we need more options on the GVside of things thats all.
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I would like to add that more GV's will not affect you flyboys in any way, you can still have your fun doing what ever you do.
as for giving to good shots i now i do when when i see one, tis mosty to the ones on room txt and not on open fourm txt ut when i see one i give it,,,,, but for us GV'ers we dont steel kills were all after the same aircraft and when we down one its a group thing, GVer's have a pride too, when 2 of us on a field down a plane its a good shot not who got the kill were both defending a base and to get those SB's down is the goal not the kills:D if im killed no big deal ill try to get back into the game the best way i can and try not to be taking out so soon, and if anyone calls me a whiner you wrong as i love a good fight, i just know when not to spawn in the middle of a camp site more then twice:D without backup:-)
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I been gripen for a few yrs to get a V-2 rocket,....do they listen????? Nope. :) Dunno why, my 190 usually immatates a v-2 well, I just wanna light the fuse on a real one.:D
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Originally posted by shamroc
WELL I NEVER !! HMMMMPHHHH!!!! :lol
Shamroc
SURE you have :)
I meant no disrespect towards you shamroc, I apologize if you felt the class comment was specifically directed at you.
The comment was intended to be a more general statement about the prejudice some seem to have when it comes to Gv’s. Your very comment comes up often when players ask for more gv’s in the wishlist forum. For many I suspect it’s because they get pwnd in gv’s and are too impatient to learn something new, who knows..
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Originally posted by Scca
SURE you have :)
I meant no disrespect towards you shamroc, I apologize if you felt the class comment was specifically directed at you.
S'all good bro - no offense taken :)
Shamroc