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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FBvirgil on November 25, 2007, 05:32:41 PM
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Guy call me C.U.n.t. this typeing exactly how he typed it on 200 in arena after he died. then asked for duel. I said sure i'll go even using twist stick against your peddals.
as you see from flim he was being jerk frrom start. first sortie came 8 or 9 k to 6k fight dove once he saw my dot for speed. so i bailed and names started again. so i said 1 more time bail start over 6k merge. i duck his ho attempt he get s on 6 i barrel roll chop throttle. And try to make him over shoot he rams me from behind. says i rammed him and i sticked stired. as you will see niether of this things happened. had him in arena in la7 200yds off 6 couldn't kill my unarmed tempest, knew i would get him to over shoot then kill. now him and squad say i'm lying about duel you be the judge.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W_v0S9Cjm8A
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edit: linky no worky btw:p
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Originally posted by Bronk
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edit: linky no worky btw:p
IN
what he said.
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Originally posted by FBvirgil
Guy call me C.U.n.t. this typeing exactly how he typed it on 200 in arena after he died. then asked for duel. I said sure i'll go even using twist stick against your peddals.
as you see from flim he was being jerk frrom start. first sortie came 8 or 9 k to 6k fight dove once he saw my dot for speed. so i bailed and names started again. so i said 1 more time bail start over 6k merge. i duck his ho attempt he get s on 6 i barrel roll chop throttle. And try to make him over shoot he rams me from behind. says i rammed him and i sticked stired. as you will see niether of this things happened. had him in arena in la7 200yds off 6 couldn't kill my unarmed tempest, knew i would get him to over shoot then kill. now him and squad say i'm lying about duel you be the judge.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W_v0S9Cjm8A
first off you are extremely underskilled. Joker2 is much more abusive and insulting and you can barely make coherent sentences. you never stood a chance.
IN
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never posted film someone said use youtube tried but film dosen't play. got pm saying picture hanger trying there....
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This thread wont last long
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Originally posted by FBvirgil
never posted film someone said use youtube tried but film dosen't play. got pm saying picture hanger trying there....
:huh
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okay help this old man that doesn't know how to change film file for posting. How do you post film here?
okay hope this worked
http://www.mediafire.com/?brdimdqswd8
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Originally posted by FBvirgil
okay help this old man that doesn't know how to change film file for posting. How do you post film here?
I think you can go here http://www.mediafire.com/ (http://www.mediafire.com/)
Upload the file.
Then post the link to the file, so we can download it and watch it.
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okay think i got it figured out lol
http://www.mediafire.com/?brdimdqswd8
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Oh dear...
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heres the simple reality....
Joker simply is a scorenoob.
That being said he clearly had U cold. You didnt even have the guy in views 80% of the time. Since he is a noob he ran into you...but thats simply an unforced error due to the 202...
If your serious about your fighter skills spend a week or two working with a trainer.
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Originally posted by humble
heres the simple reality....
Joker simply is a scorenoob.
That being said he clearly had U cold. You didnt even have the guy in views 80% of the time. Since he is a noob he ran into you...but thats simply an unforced error due to the 202...
If your serious about your fighter skills spend a week or two working with a trainer.
Show me where in this thread Virgil "claimed to be great"? All he did was take abuse from a scorepotato and went into the DA.
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Originally posted by humble
heres the simple reality....
Joker simply is a scorenoob.
That being said he clearly had U cold. You didnt even have the guy in views 80% of the time. Since he is a noob he ran into you...but thats simply an unforced error due to the 202...
If your serious about your fighter skills spend a week or two working with a trainer.
Seen joker2 in main arena ho after ho. I ducked his ho's knew rudder pedals would out turn my twist stick. I never worried i believe i could make him over shoot and he wouldv'e if he didn't ram.
As you see in film he said i rammed him and stick stired, Only posted flim to show I told truth. after him and his squad said i was lying about who rammed who. that is reason for post. 2 days listening to him and squad say post film so i did :)
Humble I fly my way have np getting 5 k/s and 15 or so k/d I fly my way ,Because I can only use twist stick, and i know its limitations.
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The abuse occured in the MA...I was on at the time. When he came back they were both talking smack. I'm certainly not defending joker2....he's classless IMO. However the clip has nothing to do with jokers abuse per se.
Both planes were guns cold on merge so there was no HO attempt. Joker was in reasonable position and had two sets of hits and got in too tight. Virgil was really using an aerlion roll not a barrel roll....wasnt stick stirring but wasnt really ACM either.
I'm just giving the guy an honest 2 cents on what he actually posted....nothing more.
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FBvirgil
Did not look like stick stirring to me.
You did not ram him.
Rudder pedals are worth it! (98 dollars)
http://www.buy.com/prod/ch-pro-pedals-pedals-mechanical/q/loc/101/10238849.html (http://www.buy.com/prod/ch-pro-pedals-pedals-mechanical/q/loc/101/10238849.html)
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Having used ch and microsoft gear myself I can honestly say pedals don't help that much.. I mean you do get more control over your movements, but that doesn't acutally mean that it can turn better...
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Personaly, i think this guy is:
-A shades Account
-A complete tard who cares only for score.
-He's full of himself, by naming a squad after him.
-a milkrunner, and picker.
List goes on...
Oh and. IN
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Originally posted by Avaro
Having used ch and microsoft gear myself I can honestly say pedals don't help that much.. I mean you do get more control over your movements, but that doesn't acutally mean that it can turn better...
:huh Your joking... Right?
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Originally posted by humble
The abuse occured in the MA...I was on at the time. When he came back they were both talking smack. I'm certainly not defending joker2....he's classless IMO. However the clip has nothing to do with jokers abuse per se.
Both planes were guns cold on merge so there was no HO attempt. Joker was in reasonable position and had two sets of hits and got in too tight. Virgil was really using an aerlion roll not a barrel roll....wasnt stick stirring but wasnt really ACM either.
I'm just giving the guy an honest 2 cents on what he actually posted....nothing more.
Humble was posted cause jokers repeated messages i rammed him that was what you were to judge. Was a ho just after merge i saw ho coming dove down.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2xoaam2wmja
http://www.mediafire.com/?dzzmqxc9m5n
http://www.mediafire.com/?ez11hmy2zrc
here are screns shots he says i don't have. as you see hes on 200 saying i rammed him and i'm lying about who rammed who.
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
FBvirgil
Did not look like stick stirring to me.
You did not ram him.
Rudder pedals are worth it! (98 dollars)
http://www.buy.com/prod/ch-pro-pedals-pedals-mechanical/q/loc/101/10238849.html (http://www.buy.com/prod/ch-pro-pedals-pedals-mechanical/q/loc/101/10238849.html)
Sorry mate, I perfer the twisty stick :]
Tried the pedals but I know the stick and it's just more comfortable for me.
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Originally posted by MjTalon
:huh Your joking... Right?
Would i have posted if i was? Thats my opinon.. Yall think what yall want.:aok
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Coming from someone who has never used pedals, so bear with me haha. Do they really offer that much of an advantage?
donkey
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Coming from someone who has never used pedals, so bear with me haha. Do they really offer that much of an advantage?
donkey
In my opinion no.. But some people swear by it.
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1st,
Virgil there is no doubt that joker is a tardlet....period.
however Rudder vs twisty stick is a minimal issue compared to rudder input vs no rudder input. I have a X-45, X-52 and propedals. I've left my pedals unconnected for months at a time...do they make a difference vs twisty or rocker....yes but minor. Almost nothing on ACM but a bit on gunnery.
In the clip you posted rudder was not in play in any meaningful way regardless.
No question that joker ran into you.
Score in all its aspects is relatively meaningless in AH. K/S & K/D are easily manipulated...guys like joker show just how meaningless "score" has become.
At the same time if your gonna "DA" tardlets some basic ACM will go along way.
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You did force an overshoot. Well done, no stick stirring there. However, to that point, he was handing you your private parts, 1 .30 cal shot at a time. :)
BTW, why bail on the 1st duel? Seemed kinda weak. All the pluses were for you. He wins...he broke the rules. You win...even though he broke the rules. In the end, seems a win/win for you.
I would tend to believe the climb out was inadvertent. The guy did tell you that he had never flown a 202 before and then did state that he was setting the views. When he shows up in the side bar, he is just over 7k (not 8 or 9k) and is at least 50 mph slower.
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Just to clarify, Joker and Joker2 are two different people and I know some here just shortened Joker2 to Joker.
The 'Joker' is in my squad and he's a stand up guy.
Of course, that only applies when he isn't sitting down.
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Originally posted by FBvirgil
Humble was posted cause jokers repeated messages i rammed him that was what you were to judge. Was a ho just after merge i saw ho coming dove down.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2xoaam2wmja
http://www.mediafire.com/?dzzmqxc9m5n
http://www.mediafire.com/?ez11hmy2zrc
here are screns shots he says i don't have. as you see hes on 200 saying i rammed him and i'm lying about who rammed who.
ok...here's my 2 cents...........
FB......he never once tried to HO ya bud.....he didn't ram ya either......look very closly at your own film from the "fixed" position, and use trails. that collision was caused by delay..on ur side or his i don't know..but assume his.....when you stop the film as he rams, you can see almost an entire wingspan between him and you........you needed to keep him in your views better too......loose sight, loose the fight. now..had he not suffered that collision, he'd have had ya.
JOKER......it didn't look like he was stick stitting at all...and read above.....about the collision. you also need to calm down dude......you sounded an awful lot like a pissed 9 year old girl tht just lost her barbie doll. on the other side, you'd have had him if ya hadn't had a delay problem. oo....and dude.......you REALLY should've handled this yourself.....why did you feel the need to bring your squadies in on this?
the bs these guys are talking about is why i stopped activily monitoring 200 channel. when i go to da it's to have FUN 1-1 fights. a few times a few of our squad went in there and did 3-1 fights..again...for FUN. why is it sooooooo friggin hard for all of us to remember this????
CARTOON AIRPLANES.
o well..that's my 2 cents.........:noid :noid
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edit......as for the scren shots........i'd have either ignored them, or sent them to htc......either way, you can also de-tune 200
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Broccoli is a good source of vitamINs.
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Originally posted by fuzeman
Just to clarify, Joker and Joker2 are two different people and I know some here just shortened Joker2 to Joker.
The 'Joker' is in my squad and he's a stand up guy.
Of course, that only applies when he isn't sitting down.
My bad...I do know its two different guys...just a lazy typer:) and assuming everyone knows who we're talking about...
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Originally posted by Avaro
Having used ch and microsoft gear myself I can honestly say pedals don't help that much.. I mean you do get more control over your movements, but that doesn't acutally mean that it can turn better...
You're correct that rudder pedal don't help you turn. However, they do allow you to do many other things that you cannot do without rudder control. They allow you do them better or with greater precision than you can with a twisty stick or rudder rocker on the throttle. The pilots with the best plane control are masters of rudder use. Pedals are markedly superior to twisties and rockers, giving far more precision.
A typical twisty stick or rocker on a throttle gives you about 1/2 inch of travel between centered and full rudder. Pedals provide at least 6 inches of travel, and that difference allows for far more precision.
Not to mention that many guys using twisties inadvertently carry some rudder if they move the stick aggressively. That induces yaw and roll, hurts gunnery and more importantly, eats E.
If a set of pedals is within a player's budget, he/she should buy them.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
Personaly, i think this guy is:
-A shades Account
-A complete tard who cares only for score.
-He's full of himself, by naming a squad after him.
-a milkrunner, and picker.
List goes on...
Oh and. IN
Who exactly are you talking about?
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Originally posted by FBvirgil
i duck his ho attempt he get s on 6 i barrel roll chop throttle.
That was not a barrel roll. It was an aileron roll, and it's nearly useless. A barrel roll resembles a helix, like a big corkscrew path. An aileron roll does not kill E fast enough and your aspect changes little. In other words, all it generally does is spread the hits out over your airplane. Besides, why did you push your nose over when trying to kill speed? If you want to kill speed, enlist the aid of gravity, at least. Get your nose up and barrel roll from nose high.
The only reason joker2 ran into you was because he's a not a skilled pilot and didn't throttle back, not that you put some stunning move on him.
You, on the other hand, had an opportunity early in the duel for clear shot. You didn't see it. Frankly, you didn't see much of him at all. The quickest way to lose a duel is to lose sight of the opponent.
You failed to do the primary thing, which is to keep your nose or at least your lift vector pointed towards the other plane. To do that well, you have to learn to fly to where you are looking, not look to where you're flying. You should be looking at the other guy...
These things can all be overcome, but you'll never do that until you take time for coaching and practice. Get together with some squadies and go to the TA and duel each other, concentrating on keeping them in view at all times. Get together with one or more of the Trainers and work at things like the barrel roll and rolling scissors.
I tell people that the only limit they have is that which they impose upon themselves.
My regards,
Widewing
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Who the FARG cares?
Yer both lil girls crying over a frikken cartoon... Grow Up!!!
WhINe, WhINe, WhINe.
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Who the FARG cares?
Yer both lil girls crying over a frikken cartoon... Grow Up!!!
WhINe, WhINe, WhINe.
Mac
AWmac no crying here when i went back into arena after his pissing fit. next hour was him saying i stick stired and ramed him and i was liar . and for 3 days now its been post flim liar. I Squelched him so he had squadies like cumstard start in. so had to post to shut him up atleast a little while. I HOPE.
He must care alot since he starts every time he comes in arena. I am using my Dads account and fly when hes not. I lost use of my legs in a car crash. so to use pedals is impossible.
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This should never have been brought to the BBS.
And 2 of those screenshot's shoulda gone to support@flyaceshigh.com
Nobody takes Joker2, Cmustard, or any of "that bunch" serious. Who cares WHAT They say.
When being insulted, always consider the source.
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Originally posted by WMLute
This should never have been brought to the BBS.
And 2 of those screenshot's shoulda gone to support@flyaceshigh.com
Nobody takes Joker2, Cmustard, or any of "that bunch" serious. Who cares WHAT They say.
When being insulted, always consider the source.
:aok
well stated
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Coming from someone who has never used pedals, so bear with me haha. Do they really offer that much of an advantage?
donkey
I use duel throttle control on a thrustmaster WCS enable me to control 2 engines at a time, ive made 110s spin circles doin this, and yes pedals are good.
my reason for liking the pedals over twist stick it gives me complete control of my aircraft, I can mash a rudder anytime i wish or gently apply it.
Its not something easily learned by, trust me. Takes time but I say I outfly 90% of my fights because of the pedals.
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Ewwww I never thought I would agree with Lute but I do in this case...
Why touble yourself :)
MGD
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Originally posted by WMLute
This should never have been brought to the BBS.
And 2 of those screenshot's shoulda gone to support@flyaceshigh.com
Nobody takes Joker2, Cmustard, or any of "that bunch" serious. Who cares WHAT They say.
When being insulted, always consider the source.
just what he said
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microsoft Sidewinder twisty stick is almost as good as any rudder pedals.
...or...would you have me believe that when i lose to a pedal using player it is only because of control methods?
Joker2 came in his spit8 at my jugD25 1 on 1 the other day....i owned him in 20 seconds and chewed off a wing. This was on the deck next to his base.
then, i was fighting a 190A5 and an F6F in the same plane and joker2 comes back out and goes for a direct HO shot that would steal the kill from the f6f that is now on my six. He misses and augers, f6f overshoots and 190 blasts me.
i laughed on ch200, joker2 did not reply.
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Joker has nice time amassed to his credit
216:02:50 hours flying time already?
yesh Average person in my squad is barely 100 hours.
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Well all these replys about joker2 are funny hear him tell it. He has respect of everyone and is best there is. And they would know i'm lying so post film liar were his replys. Wmlute only put screen shots, Because after posting film he got on private told me to prove he called me Dik and **** and biatch. so I posted so his so called friends squadies see that one lying is the one yelling on 200. like my dad says" You can tell who is lying by how they protest thier inocent". Wmlute I'm sure HTC has enough on thier plate then to get screen shots of guys on 200, If someone reported every time someone used these words 60% of players would be gone. as you see in one screen shot he started up i was answering him and a moderator told me to "please discontinue this arguement" So I stoped while his abuse continued I finally asked mod on 200 why not be fair. after I stoped he continue on for atleast 5 mins.
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Hey Virg, here's an INnovative idea...detune 200. It is an absolute waste of time IMHO. Let your guns do the talking!
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joker2 is a moron!:aok
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Originally posted by SkyRock
joker2 is a moron!:aok
:lol
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Monday morning and 2 posts already ready for the lock n key :O
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Lots of Jokers around :D
Just to make sure, we also do have a "Jokeri" amongs our all too drunken community of finnish pilots. Btw. that is a direct translation of a word "joker" in finnish but it only signifies that joker you got in a deck of cards. Sometimes it also signifies a kind of wild factor. To tell a joke is to "vitsailla". A person making a joke is "vitsailija". :)
Now that you have educated your selves, you have also become better persons and can stop..
Cheers
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simple solution to all problems of dumb people
open radio...
type
.squelch_name
or
.squelch_200
if you want to talk to someone (rarely)
open roster
right click their name
and press tune to
problem solved
or if we ever get a b29
just drop a NOUK LOL:rofl
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Originally posted by SkyRock
joker2 is a Mormon!:aok
religious predjudice, from you mark? i wouldnt have believed it untill i saw it..
:confused:
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Bighorn didn't use rudder pedals - and that is scary...
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Originally posted by lengro
Bighorn didn't use rudder pedals - and that is scary...
Well, Since I've used a twisty and ch setup for a few years both I agree with widewing that they do give a bit better gunnery. Also have more control over the movements, but again they don't help you turn lol.. Either way your still geting full rudder left to right..