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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Urchin on November 25, 2007, 07:08:26 PM
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I need to lose about 30 lbs, so I decided I'm going to start jogging. Before I quit smoking (August '05), I was around 185 lbs and 17-18% body fat.
Now, I'm sitting at around 205 lbs and 26-27%. So I've decided I've had enough of that.
Now, I have been trying to jog on the treadmill at the gym I joined up here. I started out trying to run at 6 mph. I can manage about 7 minutes at that speed.
So today I went and lowered the speed to 5 mph, and I could run for 15 minutes or so (I probably could've gone longer actually, but the time ran out on it and I'm lazy).
I have some $10 sneakers I bought when my old ones went bad, but they aren't 'running shoes'. Does anyone have any recommendations as far as training regimen and a good pair of relatively cheap shoes goes?
Appreciate any help anyone can offer.
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Congratulations on quitting smoking! Great job! :aok
Sorry, don't have any tips for you on the exercise part. (see my signature)
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I’ve been running on and off my entire life. Running sucks and it’s hard on old bones, joints and muscles. My advice: get a bike. You are less likely to get hurt (unless you have a bad crash). You can exercise much longer on a bike and burn more calories. My normal ride is 25 miles at about 15 miles an hour. I think I would have trouble running 30 minutes, however. Biking is a heck of a lot more fun and you will be more likely to stick with it. It’s something you will look forward to instead of forcing yourself to do.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I’ve been running on and off my entire life. Running sucks and it’s hard on old bones, joints and muscles. My advice: get a bike. You are less likely to get hurt (unless you have a bad crash). You can exercise much longer on a bike and burn more calories. My normal ride is 25 miles at about 15 miles an hour. I think I would have trouble running 30 minutes, however. Biking is a heck of a lot more fun and you will be more likely to stick with it. It’s something you will look forward to instead of forcing yourself to do.
Agree.
Also at the gym, instead of the treadmill. Use an elliptical, you'll burn more calories (less impact to boot).
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Check to see if there's a store called "the running room" in your area... they'll be able to hook you up with a good pair of shoes. If that's not an option, just make sure you get shoes that are meant specifically for running. Don't get cross-trainers, they're garbage. I swear by Mizuno for my running kicks.
Now, as far as training goes, I've got some great news for you. You don't actually NEED to run to cut fat. You need a calorie deficit and light cardio. At your weight, eating ~1800-1900 calories per day (split between 4-5 meals), and doing an hour of light cardio (read: WALKING! ;)) every day should make you drop 1-2lb per week. You don't really need to watch WHAT you eat (keep simple sugars to a minimum, though), just how much.
Doing some high-intensity cardio is good for your overall health, but unnecessary for fat loss. In fact, it can actually be detrimental-- doing high intensity cardio while maintaining a calorie deficit will cause you to lose at least as much muscle as fat. If you want me to point you in the right direction for a proper training regimen, shoot me a PM (I'm a bodybuilder/amateur athlete/personal trainer).
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P.S.
If you do buy shoes, get measured. Feet can change size even in adulthood. Wearing the wrong size sucks.
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As others said, get running shoes not cross trainers or other weird shoes.
If you've got a funky arch, try to get shoes that match up to your arch. A good shoe store/running store should be able to help you with that.
If you're looking for good shoes that won't break the bank, look at New Balance or Asics. They're both good running shoes and you can get a good pair for $50-70, way cheaper if you watch the Sunday ads for sales. I go through a lot of running shoes (outdoor, all weather running on concrete) so price is important to me since I replace them often. I was always a New Balance buyer, but my last two pairs I've switched to Asics because they were a bit lighter.
If I were you, I'd concentrate on longer, lower speed runs. Try to work your way up to 3 or 4 miles per session (3-4 times a week), at whatever pace you can handle. Speed will come later. Wetrat's probably got lots of good tips - my training regimen isn't based on science as much as stuff I've picked up through sports and police/fire/military training.
Running will be hard on your joints and muscles, especially if you're carrying some extra weight and your muscles aren't used to it. Ellipticals are a good idea for alleviating that, but elliptical machines keep you cooped up in a gym - plus they're just kinda ghey.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Ellipticals are a good idea for alleviating that, but elliptical machines keep you cooped up in a gym - plus they're just kinda ghey.
Yeah you might have to work out behind somthing like this:
(http://www.elliptical-machines-n-trainers.com/images/smooth-ce-elliptical-trainer.jpg)
That being said, I row. Rowing clubs are about 3 to 1 female to male ratio. Sometimes a good thing, sometimes bad.
But 30 minutes running or doing some kind of aerobic activity is good, but will only burn off about 1/2 a Snickers bar.
Eat less is the way to lose weight. Aerobic gets your metabolism up, weights build lean mass, but losing weight comes 95% from eating less.
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I run a lot and had a stress fracture 2 years ago caused by bad shoes.
To answer your original question:
Asics are a great brand for running shoes.
Mizuno are also good, I have Mizuno shoes.
Things to look at when buying running shoes:
- The lighter the better
- The heel should be stiff
- Does the material allow your foot to breath? (feet don't sweat so much and feet wont smell so bad)
- absorbtion (padding in the soles/shocks, etc) I personally don't like running shoes with shocks.
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go ahead and run, I'm 50 I have lost thirty pounds in three months by modifying my eating habits and running now up to one hour every other day and swimmimg one hour every other day. for running I'm wearing the new balance model 608. I was using the 601 but the 608 is a much better shoe. I still have thirty pounds more to lose but I'm plateaued and I don't seem to budge. my wife has lost 25lbs in the same period of time as I, speaking for both of us we have never felt better though we are still pudgy, hell we're fat but I hope to have the sixty pounds shed by one year from when we started. I'm looking to weigh 185-190lbs and stay there for life. good luck to you in your endeavor.
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Best advice = go to a running store for shoes.
Stay far away from foot locker or the like unless you know exactly what shoe you need and what you are looking for.
At a running store they can evaluate your arch, whether you over pronate, how much cushion you need and what not. It's totally worth it.
Good luck :aok
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Find a cool place to run. If the scenery is good enough, it won't even be like exercise. The biggest problem you face right now, being a bit overweight and untrained, is hitting the anaerobic threshold. Basically this is the point where you feel like you are not getting enough air, and you may become nauseous. As you become better trained, you will be able to run longer and faster (and thusly burn more calories).
So my advice, start off slow, jog within your aerobic threshold (don't go so fast that you feel starved for air), and try to run for 30 minutes at a time. Be sure to stretch out before the run too. Find a place to run that isn't jammed with cars, like a sleepy neighborhood (with sidewalks), or a city park. 15 miles a week is a pretty good goal for a novice runner.
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Some excellant advice goin here..A store that caters to runners will analize your step and steer you to the right shoe.See your doctor first before doin anything strenuous...Also,a weight lifting program is great for losing weight..though u put on some muscle mass at first,having more muscle makes u a much more efficient fat burning machine(even when u are sleeping)
set some realistic goals(5k,10k) and enter a race and start the personal best(PB) thing.
i used to have a street run where i had markers for each mile(measured w a car odometer)..eg fire hydrants,intersections,trees etc so u can pace yourself.
if u have knee probs stop & try biking or other cross-training.
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Go with New Balance.
Go to a store that has New Balance shoes, tell the shoe guy what you need the shoes for, he'll most likely know which model you should be using.
-Mike/wulfie
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Dont go by brand, price or colour
Go to a proper running shop, get your foot fall scanned, and let the assistant guide you to the perfect shoe for 'YOU'
could be new balance, saucony, or even a piece of old tyre rubber with bailer twine, who knows as everyones different.
Bad shoes (as in incorrect for you) + bad running technique = injuries such as shin splints/compound fractures = laying off the exercise again = getting fat again
So your back to square one, but now your also suffering from an injury, which makes starting to get fit again even harder. (erm yup i know)
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Lots of good advice in the thread. I've always had good results with New Balance. Sole inserts help. Be careful not to wear the shoes too long -- inside support sometimes can break down before the soles wear out.
Don't overlook cross country skiing machines like Nordic Track if you can find one. We're still using ours after about 20 year. Doesn't punish your knees.
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I used New Balance 1220s for running. They are a big, highly cushioned shoe.
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
I used New Balance 1220s for running. They are a big, highly cushioned shoe.
I have wide feet and New Balance make the best wide shoe imo. Been buying them for the last 20 years and have never been disappointed and I haven't always just sat around posting on bbs'. ;)
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wide feet here too = new balance. I have a pair of 411's I find very comfortable.
instead of running/jogging on the treadmill put it at its max incline, set the speed to 4 (fast walk) and go for at least 40 minutes before you cool down. Less impact and you'll burn a load of calories.
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Originally posted by Eagler
wide feet here too = new balance. I have a pair of 411's I find very comfortable.
instead of running/jogging on the treadmill put it at its max incline, set the speed to 4 (fast walk) and go for at least 40 minutes before you cool down. Less impact and you'll burn a load of calories.
now there's a thought. which treadmill did you purchase?
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Originally posted by storch
now there's a thought. which treadmill did you purchase?
It's a NordicTrack EXP 2000 XI we purchased 4 to 5 years ago.
We got ours at Sears. Thought they didn't sell them anymore but here's one on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/NordicTrack-EXP-2000xi-Exercise-Treadmill-w-iFIT-NEW_W0QQitemZ110192661270QQcmdZViewItem)