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Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Rollins on November 26, 2007, 05:55:58 PM
Apparently they'll try to kill you if you don't pick the right name for your teddy bear in a Muslim (religion of peace) society.  Seems to me like just another group  so fanatically zealous that they find any excuse to go batsh**t insane.

Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21973378/?GT1=10547)

Eskimo, you think Bubbles got blown up?- I can't wait for the vid on Mohammed bear!  :aok
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: TwentyFo on November 26, 2007, 05:57:49 PM
I don't undertand. I confused
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 26, 2007, 06:04:12 PM
Worry not,its gonna be the same in states very soon.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: MiloMorai on November 26, 2007, 06:09:09 PM
Does that mean every all the moslem parents who name there son Muhammad should be charged with blasphemy?
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Rollins on November 26, 2007, 06:12:45 PM
That was the first thing that struck me when reading it...:rolleyes:   Makes no sense.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 26, 2007, 06:21:04 PM
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Does that mean every all the moslem parents who name there son Muhammad should be charged with blasphemy?


Is there a doll with name Jesus?:rofl If church had a power to put someone in jail,half of USA would've been sentenced to electric chair or for life.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: VOR on November 26, 2007, 06:26:56 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
Is there a doll with name Jesus?


YES!

Action Figure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haitxwIYj3Y)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 26, 2007, 06:32:34 PM
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Originally posted by VOR
YES!

Action Figure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haitxwIYj3Y)

Yeah its much better,kid poking Jesus with spear :rofl
We as society is in deep deep crap,i cant stop laughing.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Motherland on November 26, 2007, 07:14:11 PM
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Originally posted by VOR
YES!

Action Figure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haitxwIYj3Y)

LMAO!
A couple clicks in 'related videos' got me this gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyaUYKRWvZ4&feature=related
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 26, 2007, 07:27:32 PM
I wouldn't put it up there with an insulting cartoon but a heinous act nonetheless.  :rolleyes:
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 26, 2007, 07:30:39 PM
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Originally posted by Motherland
LMAO!
A couple clicks in 'related videos' got me this gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyaUYKRWvZ4&feature=related


I bet you can't find those types of things about Mohammed on you tube.




Here's some evidence of what I spoke.

http://sugiero.blogspot.com/2006/10/video-young-danish-peoples-party.html

Update: Youtube has pulled the videos. Follow the Zombie-link below to watch them.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 26, 2007, 09:03:52 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I bet you can't find those types of things about Mohammed on you tube.




Here's some evidence of what I spoke.

http://sugiero.blogspot.com/2006/10/video-young-danish-peoples-party.html

Update: Youtube has pulled the videos. Follow the Zombie-link below to watch them.

Please.If Church were given power(and its getting there),we'd be crucified on the spot.
sweet Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI5Mqn4Fr5w)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Yeager on November 27, 2007, 12:01:11 AM
If church had a power to put someone in jail,half of USA would've been sentenced to electric chair or for life.
====
what a dumb thing to say.  you really believe this?
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: TwentyFo on November 27, 2007, 12:07:43 AM
I confused. Me dont undertand
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Shaky on November 27, 2007, 12:43:26 AM
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
I confused. Me dont undertand


Kgb is making a miserable attempt at moral equivelance.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: SOB on November 27, 2007, 01:07:05 AM
Well after reading this, I'm canceling my vacation to Sudan.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 01:10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
If church had a power to put someone in jail,half of USA would've been sentenced to electric chair or for life.
====
what a dumb thing to say.  you really believe this?

First of all "dumb" would be forgetting fact that Church managed to slaughter quiet a number of people for the past 1000 years.
Secondly the whole principal of Christian faith is to be afraid of going to hell.
You pretty much have to believe in God,or else,you going to hell where you will burn for eternity but God will still love ya
:aok
Main difference between USA and Iran (or Iraq for example)is that they ruled by religion.Actually ever since that religious salamander came to power with religious pedophile as his spiritual adviser things when down hill very fast,so to answer to your question,yes.Church in power is horrible thing to have.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 27, 2007, 01:33:07 AM
i agree Kgb, sort of.

one thing i disagree with is that the church will turn back to burning at the stake.

christian church evolved past those methods and will not return to them, muslims just need to catch up.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 01:47:06 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
i agree Kgb, sort of.

one thing i disagree with is that the church will turn back to burning at the stake.

christian church evolved past those methods and will not return to them, muslims just need to catch up.

Ever seen Jesus camp?I think next generation will resume burning:D
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 27, 2007, 02:13:29 AM
hey it doesnt bother me, im not christian so i dont go to hell

:aok
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 02:34:49 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
hey it doesnt bother me, im not christian so i dont go to hell

:aok

since they dont have hell im gonna convert to jewdaism and i'll be fine too.:noid
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: B@tfinkV on November 27, 2007, 02:43:40 AM
we should start a new cult.
free beer and 70 virgin ON EARTH not heaven. sounds like a plan. i bet we could get millions to buy into it.


like that dude who made scientology...got something like $2m from Tom Cruise...now he just sits in his mansion all day sipping cocktails...

follower: "So great one, what teachings have you got today for us humble people?"

cult leader: "hey what now? religion?  oh yes....umm....like...yeah...i got $2m now so to be honest im not really that pissed off with the world anymore....like...kinda this whole thing was a load of bollocks because i was depressed...umm...you all go off and enjoy doing....er....things.....be good to your mothers and dont covert thy brothers fox....or something..."[sip]
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: SirLoin on November 27, 2007, 02:52:21 AM
if Eskimo had simulated blowing up a teddy bear named Jesus..the worst anyone would have thought of it was that of a sick joke.

if he had done the same with a teddy named Mohamad..he would have been charged with a hate crime.

something very wrong here.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Xargos on November 27, 2007, 04:15:50 AM
J.R. "BOB" Dobbs is our only true savior.

(http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/pics2/eyepics/HueyDobbshead.jpg)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: JB88 on November 27, 2007, 04:30:25 AM
slack!

:aok
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Xargos on November 27, 2007, 04:42:38 AM
Are you Yeti?  :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 27, 2007, 05:55:39 AM
Muslims are so dumb they're blasphemous per se.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Shuffler on November 27, 2007, 08:39:52 AM
So the children that named this bear.... what will happen to them? Muslims are so ignorant.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: crockett on November 27, 2007, 08:53:18 AM
I dunno about Muhammad on a teddy bear, but I found Jesus on this dog. I wonder if people will line up to worship it.

(http://www.wargamerx.com/temp/2007330121924.jpg)

:t
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 08:57:20 AM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Muslims are so dumb they're blasphemous per se.

Aha:rofl What are you?Noble prize winner?
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 12:51:03 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
Please.If Church were given power(and its getting there),we'd be crucified on the spot.
sweet Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI5Mqn4Fr5w)


Puhlease is right. I suspect there are more than a few just like you who actually believe that ridiculuosly stupid statement though. Funny how you'll find many of them bashing Chrisitanity while defending Islam, the religion that would try to kill you if you ridiculed Mohammed like many have done with Jesus in this thread. :rolleyes:
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 01:06:32 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Puhlease is right. I suspect there are more than a few just like you who actually believe that ridiculuosly stupid statement though. Funny how you'll find many of them bashing Chrisitanity while defending Islam, the religion that would try to kill you if you ridiculed Mohammed like many have done with Jesus in this thread. :rolleyes:


I've already answered to similar statement.
P.S.Watch your mouth:D
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 06:46:31 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
I've already answered to similar statement.
P.S.Watch your mouth:D


You want to make an idiotic comment don't expect to not be called on it. There are more Christians in the world than Muslims and if they wanted your head for a cartoon they have the "power" to take it.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:09:07 PM
Might consider factoring in the actual percentage of Muslims that really want someone's head for a cartoon, however. It's a really safe bet it's less than 100%. Probably good money on less than 10%. But that's where it's an actual wager and damned hard to nail down, eh? And is it really Islam? ;)

http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2421/

Motivation, ideology and theology

To what extent Islamist terrorists are motivated by religious belief is disputed. Robert Pape, author of the book Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, has argued that at least terrorists utilizing suicide-homicide attacks -- a particularly effective[52] form of terrorist attack -- are driven by nationalism, not Islam. They

"are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland. From Lebanon to Sri Lanka to Chechnya to Kashmir to the West Bank, every major suicide-terrorist campaign — over 95 percent of all the incidents — has had as its central objective to compel a democratic state to withdraw."[53]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist_terrorism

[52]^ For example, according to Pape, from 1980 to 2003 suicide attacks amounted to only 3% of all terrorist attacks, but accounted for 48% of total deaths due to terrorism - this excluding 9/11 attacks, from Pape, Dying to Win, (2005), p.28

[53] ^ McConnell, Scott (2005). The Logic of Suicide Terrorism. The American Conservative magazine. The American Conservative. Retrieved on 2006-06-25.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 07:13:22 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Might consider factoring in the actual percentage of Muslims that really want someone's head for a cartoon, however. It's a really safe bet it's less than 100%. Probably good money on less than 10%. But that's where it's an actual wager and damned hard to nail down, eh? And is it really Islam? ;)
 


I bet it's enough that you and/or others here fear to post something as mocking towards Mohammed as what's been posted towards Jesus. Will you dispute this? Better yet, prove me wrong.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:17:30 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I bet it's enough that you and/or others here fear to post something as mocking towards Mohammed as what's been posted towards Jesus. Will you dispute this? Better yet, prove me wrong.


Yeah, I would. I don't resist mocking Islam out of fear. AAMOF, I do so because I am a Christian. Doing otherwise is more an insult to myself (and my faith) than to Muslims. I'm sure the majority of Muslims understand this. Goading me on to be an bellybutton is ..... well .... assinine. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: john9001 on November 27, 2007, 07:20:57 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Might consider factoring in the actual percentage of Muslims that really want someone's head for a cartoon, however. It's a really safe bet it's less than 100%. Probably good money on less than 10%. [


whats 10% of 1.1 billion?
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 07:21:35 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah, I would. I don't resist mocking Islam out of fear. AAMOF, I do so because I am a Christian. Doing otherwise is more an insult to myself (and my faith) than to Muslims. I'm sure the majority of Muslims understand this. Goading me on to be an bellybutton is ..... well .... assinine. :)


Well, there are some here more than willing to insult Christianity. They're not so brave when it comes to slinging insults towards those who aren't inclined to "turn the other cheek". A less than Christian term comes to my mind, chicken****.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:26:15 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
whats 10% of 1.1 billion?


Try moving the decimal place to the left twice. And I said it's pretty safe that it's less than. After that is when the needle should start moving once you work up a practical way to measure. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:26:59 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Well, there are some here more than willing to insult Christianity. They're not so brave when it comes to slinging insults towards those who aren't inclined to "turn the other cheek". A less than Christian term comes to my mind, chicken****.


Take it up with them and don't presume. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 07:31:59 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Take it up with them and don't presume. :)


I reserve the right to presume upon whoever and whatever my prejudice desires and since this forum isn't exactly private the gauntlet has been thrown.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:36:23 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I reserve the right to presume upon whoever and whatever my prejudice desires and since this forum isn't exactly private the gauntlet has been thrown.


For whatever that's worth. Honestly, I never can understand why people are so headstrong about undermining their own arguments. And when I challenge such I'm just as baffled over the presumptions flung at me, as a result. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 07:43:50 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
For whatever that's worth. Honestly I never can understand why people are so headstrong about undermining their own arguments. And when I challenge such I'm just as baffled over the presumptions flung at me, as a result. :)


I would appreciate an explanation as to how I have underminded my own argument. Perhaps you do not understand my argument?
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:52:34 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I would appreciate an explanation as to how I have underminded my own argument. Perhaps you do not understand my argument?


Case in point: My contention that presumption and prejudice undermines one's argument must mean I misunderstand. ;)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 07:54:51 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Case in point: My contention that presumption and prejudice undermines one's argument must mean I misunderstand. ;)


I've had a couple of gin and tonics, what's your excuse? ;)

and a fine gin it is too, Tanqueray
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 07:56:21 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
I've had a couple of gin and tonics, what's your excuse? ;)

and a fine gin it is too, Tanqueray


Not aware I needed one. But kudos the Tang. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 08:14:37 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
You want to make an idiotic comment don't expect to not be called on it. There are more Christians in the world than Muslims and if they wanted your head for a cartoon they have the "power" to take it.

No they don't,Supreme court has the power you imbecile.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
No they don't,Supreme court has the power you imbecile.


Hehe, 9 old people have only as much power as we allow them. Perhaps you don't know this so I will tell you, there is a significant difference between telling someone they said something stupid and calling them stupid.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 08:23:31 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
No they don't,Supreme court has the power you imbecile.


Class it up a notch. It's not like I've never participated in slap and tickle but you seem just a tad bit foamy here.

Just a suggestion. ;)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 08:30:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
... there is a significant difference between telling someone they said something stupid and calling them stupid.


Agreed. Not that I've never done so but generally someone has to really dig themselves a hole then urinate it into a public cess-pool before I decide the messenger is more broken than the message. I'm hopin' KgB isn't into diving competitions, at this point. Maybe passing along some Tanqeray may smooth the edges. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 08:31:22 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Well, there are some here more than willing to insult Christianity. They're not so brave when it comes to slinging insults towards those who aren't inclined to "turn the other cheek". A less than Christian term comes to my mind, chicken****.

With pedophile spiritual adviser of our dearest president and homosexual tendencies of our current Republican party that supposed to be concerned with moralistic issues and religion Christianity deserves to be insulted
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Hehe, 9 old people have only as much power as we allow them. Perhaps you don't know this so I will tell you, there is a significant difference between telling someone they said something stupid and calling them stupid.

True,my apologies.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 08:35:20 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
With pedophile spiritual adviser of our dearest president and homosexual tendencies of our current Republican party that supposed to be concerned with moralistic issues and religion Christianity deserves to be insulted


Horribly mangled presentation that comes across as confused [il]logic, at best. :noid Sorry.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 08:36:06 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
True,my apologies.


Accepted. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 08:40:58 PM
God, in his infinite wisdom, works another miracle. This time through Tanqeray. :D
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: eagl on November 27, 2007, 08:41:32 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
With pedophile spiritual adviser of our dearest president and homosexual tendencies of our current Republican party that supposed to be concerned with moralistic issues and religion Christianity deserves to be insulted


:rofl

It's interesting that your true nature finally came out.  You really ought to reconsider how often you post this particular statement, because it's semantic content is very nearly nil and it makes you sound like a child repeating something their pothead hippy stepdad keeps saying when he explains why you're eating cornflakes for dinner again.

You sound a lot like Nash, but somehow more shady :huh
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 08:42:36 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Horribly mangled presentation that comes across as confused [il]logic, at best. :noid Sorry.

English is not exactly my first language,so plz forgive me
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: KgB on November 27, 2007, 08:50:43 PM
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Originally posted by eagl
:rofl

I'm not sure whether to point out that crossposting is generally ridiculed in here, or be happy that your true nature finally came out.  You really ought to reconsider how often you post this particular statement, because it's semantic content is very nearly nil and it makes you sound like a child repeating something their pothead hippy stepdad keeps saying when he explains why you're eating cornflakes for dinner again.

You sound a lot like Nash, but somehow more shady :huh

Yeah sorry,i was wrong:rofl
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 08:52:58 PM
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Originally posted by KgB
English is not exactly my first language,so plz forgive me


My apologies for lack of perception, thusly.

Let me contend, then, that a faith, belief, philosophy or religion need not be the actual culprit when those who profess following one of them exhibits behavior counter to said belief.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 27, 2007, 08:55:42 PM
Sorry, I thought this thread was a discussion of Mary Jo Kopeckne...
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2007, 08:59:30 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
My apologies for lack of perception, thusly.

Let me contend, then, that a faith, belief, philosophy or religion need not be the actual culprit when those who profess following one of them exhibits behavior counter to said belief.


Nobody's perfect. Well, excepting of course the focus of some religions, like Christianity. Some have less shame in their lack of living up to their ideals than others. For the record, though it may seem contrary, I don't advocate this position.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 27, 2007, 09:11:52 PM
As polite and mature as the conversation has become, I suddenly laughed at how stuffy it comes across. ;)

Well I'm just never happy. :lol
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: SirLoin on November 28, 2007, 02:42:25 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo
To what extent Islamist terrorists are motivated by religious belief is disputed. Robert Pape, author of the book Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, has argued that at least terrorists utilizing suicide-homicide attacks -- a particularly effective[52] form of terrorist attack -- are driven by nationalism, not Islam.
[53]




That's utter crap..The ONLY reason islamist suicide bombers blow themselves up is so they can be raptured up into heaven(they get to skip judgement day)..72 virgins rivers of milk & honey etc.It has nothing to do with nationalism(why are muslims killing muslims,blowing up mosques?)

Try reading Sam Harris or Christipher Hitchens.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: SirLoin on November 28, 2007, 02:53:19 AM
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Originally posted by KgB
With pedophile spiritual adviser of our dearest president and homosexual tendencies of our current Republican party that supposed to be concerned with moralistic issues and religion Christianity deserves to be insulted


Actually,all religions deserve to be ridculed..Especially Islam.

Mocking a person's faith is not the same as mocking the person..Race is NOT the same as religion.

Challenging a religion employs rationality & reason based on fact or evidence....Two things faith based people are told to toss out the window(with regard to their faith).

Blind leading the blind.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Swoop on November 28, 2007, 06:11:29 AM
(http://www.fmft.net/Muhammad%20islam%20islamic%20cartoons.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/48257/Swoop2.gif)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: FrodeMk3 on November 28, 2007, 06:48:59 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
That's utter crap..The ONLY reason islamist suicide bombers blow themselves up is so they can be raptured up into heaven(they get to skip judgement day)..72 virgins rivers of milk & honey etc.It has nothing to do with nationalism(why are muslims killing muslims,blowing up mosques?)

Try reading Sam Harris or Christipher Hitchens.


I'd say the mullahs' just use that to try to sweeten the deal...They would have suicide-bombed by the millions, if that was the only reason.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: FrodeMk3 on November 28, 2007, 06:54:26 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Actually,all religions deserve to be ridculed..Especially Islam.

Mocking a person's faith is not the same as mocking the person..Race is NOT the same as religion.

Challenging a religion employs rationality & reason based on fact or evidence....Two things faith based people are told to toss out the window(with regard to their faith).

Blind leading the blind.


Maybe scientology over Islam. And history has shown, that desecrating a shrine has shown to be the sort of mortal insult that...well...causes Saladin to retake Jerusalem, for example. Try going to a Southern Baptist Church on a Sunday morning, and telling everyone going inside what you find inconsistent and ridicule their faith. Make sure that an ambulance is standing by.

You can argue religion, if you are careful to make your points based on logic. However, if you openly ridicule them, be prepared for a battle.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: wrag on November 28, 2007, 02:38:11 PM
This claims to express what it FEELS like to be flogged..........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=496844&in_page_id=1811
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 28, 2007, 03:12:47 PM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
That's utter crap..The ONLY reason islamist suicide bombers blow themselves up is so they can be raptured up into heaven(they get to skip judgement day)..72 virgins rivers of milk & honey etc.It has nothing to do with nationalism(why are muslims killing muslims,blowing up mosques?)

Try reading Sam Harris or Christipher Hitchens.


Take it up with the author of the circa 2000 text. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 28, 2007, 03:16:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SirLoin
Actually,all religions deserve to be ridculed..Especially Islam.

Mocking a person's faith is not the same as mocking the person..Race is NOT the same as religion.

Challenging a religion employs rationality & reason based on fact or evidence....Two things faith based people are told to toss out the window(with regard to their faith).

Blind leading the blind.


A person's faith is everybit as much a part of them as their race. Saying one or the other is an exception to how much respect you afford them is bogus. Challenging the way they practice their faith is another thing.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: BaldEagl on November 28, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
When I saw Killer Teddy I was thinking something more along these lines:

(http://static.zoovy.com/img/summitfashions/W304-H456-Bffffff/teddy_bodysuit_6045.jpg)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: indy007 on November 28, 2007, 03:39:43 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
A person's faith is everybit as much a part of them as their race. Saying one or the other is an exception to how much respect you afford them is bogus. Challenging the way they practice their faith is another thing.


Uhm, no. Faith is ideas indoctrinated from an early age (not always, but mostly). Race is based on chromosomes and ancestry. One is ideas you've been taught. One is part of your body. Huge difference.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 28, 2007, 03:47:34 PM
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Originally posted by indy007
Uhm, no. Faith is ideas indoctrinated from an early age (not always, but mostly). Race is based on chromosomes and ancestry. One is ideas you've been taught. One is part of your body. Huge difference.


Um, yes. Ones philosophy and biology comprise the total being. You deciding which part you're allowed to ridicule, genralizing and applying that to an entire religion and not condemniing the actual fault, which is the perversion of practice, is bogus. That makes it just as much a form of bigotry as racism.

It would be like me saying you're a bad person because you're a Jew (if you practiced Judaism) and not because you used Judaism as an excuse to practice terrorism. Using SirLoin's example, he's as bad as what he mocks.

WTG. :aok
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: saad on November 28, 2007, 10:14:44 PM
What you people cannot stomach is that somebody has enough conviction to get mad over something so seemingly insignificant... The start of something big is always small.

I congratulate the Sudanese.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Rollins on November 29, 2007, 12:51:36 AM
Not seemingly insignificant-it is completely insignificant.  It's a stuffed child's toy.  Named by children.  Nothing more.  Yeah, we need something big to kick off over in Sudan, glad you congratulate them.  On what?  The janjaweed militia slaughtering the civilian tribes with a government stamp of approval?  Yeah we stand corrected, they really got it nailed down over there.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: SirLoin on November 29, 2007, 02:11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo

It would be like me saying you're a bad person because you're a Jew (if you practiced Judaism) and not because you used Judaism as an excuse to practice terrorism. Using SirLoin's example, he's as bad as what he mocks.

WTG. :aok



Bad people do bad things..Good people try and do good things.

To get a good person to do a truly wicked thing..That takes religion.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Tigeress on November 29, 2007, 08:24:18 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
When I saw Killer Teddy I was thinking something more along these lines:

 


Thats funny... I thought it would be more along these lines :rofl

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Tigeress_ah/mobear.jpg)

TIGERESS
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: eagl on November 29, 2007, 08:32:26 AM
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Originally posted by Tigeress
Thats funny... I thought it would be more along these lines :rofl

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Tigeress_ah/mobear.jpg)

TIGERESS


That's 'cause you're not a guy.
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: indy007 on November 29, 2007, 08:46:11 AM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Um, yes. Ones philosophy and biology comprise the total being. You deciding which part you're allowed to ridicule, genralizing and applying that to an entire religion and not condemniing the actual fault, which is the perversion of practice, is bogus. That makes it just as much a form of bigotry as racism.

It would be like me saying you're a bad person because you're a Jew (if you practiced Judaism) and not because you used Judaism as an excuse to practice terrorism. Using SirLoin's example, he's as bad as what he mocks.

WTG. :aok


Not quite. Faith/religion/whatever you want to call it, is just a bunch of ideas. You can change an idea. You can't change race. You're either caucasoid, negroid, or mongoloid (yes, only 3 races, I asked anthropologists).
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Furball on November 29, 2007, 12:29:41 PM
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1294891,00.html

15 days in jail apparently (may change - is breaking news so not always spot on).
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2007, 04:55:53 PM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
To get a good person to do a truly wicked thing..That takes religion.


Blinders, boyo. It can also take politics, money, sex. If you can't see it as the fault of the individual who uses whatever they use for an excuse to be wicked then you have a lot more abstract ideas and inanimate objects to hate than you claim. :)
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: Arlo on November 29, 2007, 05:00:05 PM
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Originally posted by indy007
Not quite. Faith/religion/whatever you want to call it, is just a bunch of ideas. You can change an idea. You can't change race. You're either caucasoid, negroid, or mongoloid (yes, only 3 races, I asked anthropologists).


Three races, very good, didn't make your point.

One having the ability to change and another not is actually beside the point. Walk up to that previously illustrated Jew and tell them that you could be friends with him if only he'd convert to Christianity (or atheism or whatever). Remind him that it doesn't matter what color his skin is because he can't change that.

It's comes off like a bad episode of "All In The Family." ;) :aok
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: AWMac on November 29, 2007, 06:32:13 PM
Dammmm and I thought this thread was gonna be about a Massacusetts Senators driving record.
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/5/k/kennedy_highwayends.jpg)
Opps... my mistake.

Mac
Title: Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)
Post by: GtoRA2 on November 29, 2007, 08:14:20 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Dammmm and I thought this thread was gonna be about a Massacusetts Senators driving record.
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/5/k/kennedy_highwayends.jpg)
Opps... my mistake.

Mac


Oddly so did it. :confused: