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Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: LePaul on November 30, 2007, 12:48:16 AM
Anyone have one of the Dell gaming rigs?

Feedback?  I have a coworker eyeing one that prices out to about $2400 once he's tweaked it with 4gb of RAM.  No Vista, opting for XP install.

I'm sure you can build your own for less...and in years past, I'd suggest it.  But darn it, laziness and a full warranty is nice  :)

Just wondering if these are pretty solid rigs or just cheaply made disasters waiting to happen.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Wingnutt on November 30, 2007, 12:56:23 AM
4gb DDR800 ram, athlon X2 6000+ badass mobo , badass Geforce card..  a setup capable of running the dogpiss out of anything on the market..

still way less than the XPS..  less than HALF... just build it yourself.


the company I work for (Suddenlink, a national MSO) is partnered with DELL, so I can get anything from them at an employee discount, and even then the prices are just.. absurd.. in the highest order, highway robbery on par with Alienware...

their laptops are the biggest joke..  and they really are..  superior rigs from gatway coming in at again... about half price or less..

Dell's "regular" PCs are not bad at all.. but their "high performance" stuff.. is.. its just the highest relm of insanity... it really is.. I mean, I cannot stress enough how overpriced some of their stuff is.. its lunacy of a magnitude reserved only for those who have truly lost touch for reality..



*sits back and waits for the inevitable XPS owner to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, to try and justify (as much to themselves as anyone) the large stack of $100 bills they figuratively flushed down the technology toilet.*
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: LePaul on November 30, 2007, 02:05:32 AM
You prefer Gateway ?

(as well as building your own, i see)
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: crockett on November 30, 2007, 02:07:23 AM
You can build a way better PC for under 2400. Hell I just built a system for myself that will out do any Dell XPS for much cheaper than that.

They aren't hard to build now days. Motherboards are for the most part jumper-less and plug and play, same with hard drives and so on. If you can build an erector set you are probably overqualified to build a PC these days.

The only real skill needed is knowing what to buy and even that it's easy enough to get help with.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Xasthur on November 30, 2007, 02:07:24 AM
I had nothing but bad experiences with Dell.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: rpm on November 30, 2007, 02:33:42 AM
I've had nothing but good experiences with my Dell. Go figure...

I'm pretty sure the XPS series is based on Alienware rigs. Dell bought Alienware a while back.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Curval on November 30, 2007, 05:09:15 AM
I have the Gen 4 XPS system.  Love it.

I should add that two days BEFORE my warrenty ran out my DVD drive just quit.  One phone call to Dell and within two days a guy came by the house and swapped out mine for a new one....and I live on a small island in the middle of the Atlantic.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: LePaul on November 30, 2007, 05:52:02 AM
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Originally posted by Curval

I should add that two days BEFORE my warrenty ran out my DVD drive just quit.  One phone call to Dell and within two days a guy came by the house and swapped out mine for a new one....and I live on a small island in the middle of the Atlantic.


Give our regards to Gilligan, Ginger, Dorothy, the Howells and the Skipper  :)
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Curval on November 30, 2007, 07:32:41 AM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Give our regards to Gilligan, Ginger, Dorothy, the Howells and the Skipper  :)


What about the Dell representative that came to my house....no regards for him and all of the employees there?

;)
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Ripsnort on November 30, 2007, 07:40:21 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
I've had nothing but good experiences with my Dell. Go figure...

I'm pretty sure the XPS series is based on Alienware rigs. Dell bought Alienware a while back.


Me too. We have 4 Dells (3 laptops and 1 desk top)

Another thing is customer service:  I had a video card go bad (Nvidia GO7900 GS). I took a screen shot, sent it to a live dell rep on instant chat, within 24 hours a new video card arrived (They asked if I would like to install it, or have a dell guy do it) I was back up and running in like 20 hours from first contact of Dell.
:aok
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Hornet33 on November 30, 2007, 10:00:59 AM
I have a Dell XPS rig. It's almost a year old now and I haven't had a single problem with it. OK take that back....I've had to replace a case fan.

2.13GHz Intel Duo core CPU
4Gb Ram
250Gb hard drive
2 G-force 7900 GS video cards with 250Mb Ram each
Sound Blaster audio card
DVD/R
CD/RW
3.5 floppy
14 in 1 flash card drive
750W power supply with 2 cooling fans
2 Case fans
HUGE CPU fan and heat sink that is oil cooled
Windows XP proffesional
Dell speakers with sub woofer

Thing has more USB ports than you can shake a stick at. Only downside is the case weighs about 60 lbs but it's made out of 1/8 inch T16 aircraft grade polished aluminum and it's BIG!!!!!! Almost twice the size of my old computer.

I paid right at $3000 but I also bought a 20" flat panel monitor, UPS, and a Merc gaming keyboard with it so that jacked the price up a bit.

edit: Almost forgot, AHII runs like a bat out of hell on this thing. My frame rates are usually around 160-180. Might drop into the 110-120 range if I'm in a big furball. No stutters, no nothing and that's with the High Res pack and the resolution settings maxed out. I love this thing!!!!!

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/227/pict0011ln5.jpg)

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9194/pict0012mg2.jpg)

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1091/pict0013dt1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dell XPS's
Post by: Shuffler on November 30, 2007, 12:05:12 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
Anyone have one of the Dell gaming rigs?

Feedback?  I have a coworker eyeing one that prices out to about $2400 once he's tweaked it with 4gb of RAM.  No Vista, opting for XP install.

I'm sure you can build your own for less...and in years past, I'd suggest it.  But darn it, laziness and a full warranty is nice  :)

Just wondering if these are pretty solid rigs or just cheaply made disasters waiting to happen.


Most parts you buy are warantees. You can build a much better machine, for much much less.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: 68Wooley on November 30, 2007, 12:11:46 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
... Almost forgot, AHII runs like a bat out of hell on this thing. My frame rates are usually around 160-180. Might drop into the 110-120 range if I'm in a big furball. No stutters, no nothing and that's with the High Res pack and the resolution settings maxed out. I love this thing!!!!!...


I'm guessing your flat screen monitor is running at either 60Hz or possibly 75Hz, in which case you wont see frame rates above 60 or 75fps regardless of how fast your set-up is.

Your rig is probably not having to break sweat to keep it there though.

EDIT: - After reviewing your specs again, I'd expect to see frame rates drop slightly in a really big furball - never to anything unplayable though. Your processor (unless you've overclocked it) is probably the limiting factor.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Hornet33 on November 30, 2007, 01:46:26 PM
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Originally posted by 68Wooley
I'm guessing your flat screen monitor is running at either 60Hz or possibly 75Hz, in which case you wont see frame rates above 60 or 75fps regardless of how fast your set-up is.

Your rig is probably not having to break sweat to keep it there though.

EDIT: - After reviewing your specs again, I'd expect to see frame rates drop slightly in a really big furball - never to anything unplayable though. Your processor (unless you've overclocked it) is probably the limiting factor.


I've got screen shots where my frame rates are showing over 200. Be happy to e-mail you a couple if you have your doubts. Have a real nice one of me, Knuckels, and Toadflack flying a nice tight formation of 109's where it's showing a frame rate of 232.

I have no idea what my monitor refresh rate is set too. I've never looked because I've never had any problems with anything.

This is a stable machine and runs fast. Like I said, I love this thing.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: tapakeg on November 30, 2007, 02:21:33 PM
You can configure a
2 gig ram
quad core intel
8800GT 512 Mg

complete system at
ibuypower.com for under a grand.


I have my settings in AH set for unlimited frame rates, but it stops at 60fps.

Am I missing a setting?  i have
Nvidia 7950 512 Mg video card
2 gig ram
AMD 3800X2 processor

What setting am I missing?

Tap
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: Tuomio on November 30, 2007, 02:55:00 PM
Tip:

1.Go to some major shop that sells computer parts.
2. Tell them that you need a custom built gaming rig and the budget is 2400$
3. When they tell you, that its impossible to spend so much money on the parts, set the budget "just"(insane IMO) to 2000$
4. Before checkout, buy 22" flat screen on sale for gift to your wife.
5. Go home
6.After week or so, open the door to the UPS guy.
7.Install the windows xp you had already on new rig that has full warranty for one year. Some of the parts usually have 36 months warranty, some even lifetime.
8.Now you are ready to play with computer, that is probably 2 times faster than that XPS and has outstanding driver support.

Thats how i did it..Didnt pay it myself, it was for my brother.

Custom built computers have always been extremely good choice from the day one, but nowdays its unparalled thanks to the matured markets. You dont need to know squat about the parts, let the nerds do the thinking for you.

Good rig will cost about 700$ these days, if you can use your old DVD-drives and such, its even less than that.
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: 68Wooley on November 30, 2007, 04:12:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Hornet33
I've got screen shots where my frame rates are showing over 200. Be happy to e-mail you a couple if you have your doubts. Have a real nice one of me, Knuckels, and Toadflack flying a nice tight formation of 109's where it's showing a frame rate of 232.

I have no idea what my monitor refresh rate is set too. I've never looked because I've never had any problems with anything.

This is a stable machine and runs fast. Like I said, I love this thing.


I don't doubt your machine's capable of it - its a nice rig. The limitation is the monitor - the maximum frame rate a monitor can display is tied to its refresh rate and for flat screens that is usually 60Hz, sometimes 75Hz, making the max frame rate they can support 60 or 75 fps respectively.

Quote
Originally posted by tapakeg

I have my settings in AH set for unlimited frame rates, but it stops at 60fps


See above
Title: Dell XPS's
Post by: GtoRA2 on November 30, 2007, 04:24:22 PM
If you  have the money to waste they make an OK computer.

My sisters gaming XPS only had the sound card pop out every three days or so causing the system to not reboot and had 2 dell moniters go bad in 2 years.

All that and way more pricey then a gateway or HP. I use an HP prebuilt at work and wouldnt recomend it except over a dell.

I bought a Qaudcore 2.4 Gateway and slapped a 8800GTS in it and use it as my gaming rig, it came with 2 gigs of ram, adding 2 gigs and the video card still put it under 1500 bucks.


If you think the dell name is worth 900 bucks go for it.