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Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: croduh on November 30, 2007, 12:52:59 PM

Read it is possible.If anyone would be so kind to make this one too please, you will also be mention in credits fro my map i am making for SEA, which desperately needs this one.

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3641/109g10ja3.jpg)

Also here are markings:

Fuselage and wings (it had the black one in the middle of both wings)

(http://wp.scn.ru/camms/marks/europe/183/4_1.gif)

Tail:

(http://wp.scn.ru/camms/marks/europe/183/4_2.gif)

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: croduh on December 07, 2007, 06:37:06 AM

Any kind takers?;)

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: rogerdee on December 07, 2007, 07:57:00 AM

how quick do you need it?i guess thats the deciding factor with christmas coming up.

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: croduh on December 07, 2007, 08:27:59 AM

I've been a good boy santa!

Not in a hurry, just checking if anyone would set it on his "to-do list":)

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: TUXC on December 07, 2007, 12:29:34 PM

That drawing actually looks like a Bf109g-14/AS. Note the position of the oil fill hatch. Not sure if it's just a mistake on the drawing or not though. A picture of the plane would tell for sure.
The g-10 and g-14/AS look very similar and could both be fitted with the long or short tailwheel. The only difference between the two is the type of engine, which can only be discerned by very slight external differences. It's pretty easy to mistake one for the other.

That being said, the g-14/AS looks more like the g-10 and k-4 than the standard g-14. The performance of the g-14/AS is also similar to the g-10.

see:
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/techref/systems/engine/as_vs_d/as_vs_d.htm
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/techref/systems/engine/as_vs_d/asd2.htm



(http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/drawings/g14as_late/G14_AS_left.jpg)
g-14/AS


(http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/drawings/g10_130000/g10_left_130000.jpg)
g-10

homepage of site:
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Title: just a rough look
Post by: rogerdee on December 16, 2007, 11:03:57 AM

done a little just to rough out the look.(http://[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/rogerdee-skins/190g10.jpg)[/IMG] (http://[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/rogerdee-skins/109g10.jpg)[/IMG]

coming along slowly
i made the newb mistake and pressed the wrong button and lost all the previous work so had to start over.

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: croduh on December 16, 2007, 11:51:22 AM

Looks great.Thanks!

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: Mus51 on December 16, 2007, 05:50:23 PM

Rogerdee you takeoff dweep :D

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: rogerdee on February 05, 2008, 10:29:14 AM

ive finished this skin and giving it to croduh still not sure about trying to submit it as its a g10 skin on a k4 body

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: Xasthur on February 05, 2008, 07:20:44 PM

Quote

Originally posted by rogerdee
ive finished this skin and giving it to croduh still not sure about trying to submit it as its a g10 skin on a k4 body

Unless HTC have secret plans to re-add the G-10 it will be fine.

Even if they were to add the G10 at a later date the skin would still be useful, it would just need to be re-allocated to the G10.

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: MjTalon on February 05, 2008, 08:09:42 PM

hope they'll allow that skin as a K4, looks purrty mate :aok .

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: Xasthur on February 05, 2008, 08:29:05 PM

Upon looking at the wing and fuselage weathering they do not look consistant from the pictures you've provided.

The upper cowling looks pristine and the upper wing surface looks severely weathered.

It seems a little too inconsistant to me.

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: Larry on February 05, 2008, 08:58:44 PM

They will let a G10 skin in on the K4. My JG5 ROA skin is infact a G10 as are some other K4 skins. I think the wings in those pics are of the default skin.

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: Xasthur on February 05, 2008, 10:41:50 PM

Indeed.

I'm not trying to be an arse or anything but that skin seems to need a little bit of work before it's ready to submitted to HTC.

- The fuselage 'leaf cross' looks to be too small compared to the one in the profile.

- The upper wing leaf cross looks too bright... like the white hasn't been weathered at all

- The upper cowling green/brown merge doesn't match the profile, the green needs to extend over the cowl doors and curve around back to the other side

- The panel lines are too stark, they need a faint shadowing of dirt to make them look a little more than black and white lines. (Someone here showed me a great tip, load the selection of the panel lines layer (ctrl + click on the layers menu in Photoshop). This selects all pixels on that layer. You can then (on a new layer) fill this selection with black or dark brown and hit it with a gaussian blur or something of 1 or 2 pixels and then drop the opacity.

- The exhaust cover should be all brown in keeping with you colour scheme, not brown/green.

- You also seem to have some brown over-lapping your panel line right next to the port side cowling MG.



Like I said, I'm only offering this as help, it's only intended to bring things to your attention and not at all to deride your work. I often find that after working on something like this for a long time I get lost in it all and it can be difficult to spot small things that others will pick up almost straight away.

It's things like the above that I would like to have directed at any errors or inconsistencies I had in any skin I was working on.

Cheers

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: rogerdee on February 06, 2008, 09:24:15 AM

that picture was and is only the rough mock up for croduh to see,i havent got any pictures of the finished plane skin as at the moment i haven't got a pc to run the ah game so i can take some nice pretty screen shots

Title: G10 as a k-4
Post by: Xasthur on February 06, 2008, 05:15:42 PM

Ah, I see. I thought that was the final version to be submitted.