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Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 12:39:13 AM
In the logs I found this entry under Japanese..

! 347th Fighter Group !  
68KO
22:08:05 Departed from Field #13 in a Gunner-Observer
22:18:25 Vanished without a trace.
22:19:30 Departed from Field #13 in a Gunner-Observer
22:41:20 Vanished without a trace.
22:42:28 Departed from Field #10 in a Gunner-Observer
22:50:25 Was shot down by unknown enemy.


347th was an Allied Squadron - NOT AXIS....  Yet it would appear 68KO was riding along on the Japanese team for the first hour of the event!

Can someone check to see if this is correct?  If so, its very disturbing.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Dantoo on December 01, 2007, 12:41:51 AM
It may have been his wife.  She checks in at times I believe.  Somebody in the know may be able to help fill the story.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 12:42:39 AM
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: forHIM on December 01, 2007, 12:43:37 AM
Kurt,

68KO was/is 68KO's widow.  See was just observing.  Not sure why see was unable to switch to the bishop team, but she was not a spy.  Falcon run's a class outfit with the 68th/347th.  

I agree that it would have been best for her to switch to the same side as the rest of the 68th, but I do not believe anything was harmed by her observations.

Edit: also wanted to mention that there was a number of gate crashers tonight that I noticed.  These individuals who either weren't in proper uniform or were in a uniform of an unregistered FSO squad kept our host CM busier than he should have been.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Husky01 on December 01, 2007, 12:44:56 AM
That is Sue she pops into the events some times to say hi to folks and watch the events.  Believe me you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 12:45:03 AM
I'll take that on your good word ForHim... But thats the kind of stuff that can undermine the whole event...  

Perhaps someone should set her up an account for that kinda stuff?
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Dantoo on December 01, 2007, 12:50:03 AM
Kurt - It may be that you don't know the KO story.  Have a search through threads and you'll see that your fears are misplaced.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 12:50:31 AM
Anytime you see "68KO" logged in, it is 68KO's widow. coming to FSO to watch.

She is a really nice lady that has decided to pop into AH from time to time to see what her late husband loved about AH so much.

She is an honored guest, and is welcome no matter what side see happens to show on.

She has a minimal understanding of AH and is no threat to the integrity of the event.

IF ANYONE has a problem with that you may talk to me directly.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Husky01 on December 01, 2007, 12:51:47 AM
Kurt please check your PMs
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 12:55:39 AM
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 01:16:37 AM
Kurt you are welcome to meet me on 202 VOX in the SEA right now.

I see you are on line at this time.

If you don't then.......  (OK I'll edit mine for the betterment of humanity to.)

:)
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: ROC on December 01, 2007, 01:18:55 AM
Although in this case, Sue is 100% a non threat, I do have to agree with Kurt that the squads really need to keep tabs on their roster, it can undermine the credibility of an event if it were just about anyone else but Sue.

Good thing to remind all the players about, we have a no walkon rule and a no launching after the action starts for a reason.  Too easy to disco just as the action starts, if you are about to die off.  Too easy to log in "late" and launch after starting on the wrong side and seeing where the fleets have spawned too.

Too easy to lose credibility, even when most of the situations are perfectly harmless.  We aren't close enough to look each other in the eyes and shake hands, the only thing we have to back up credibility is actual actions.  Worthy of an extra moment to keep tabs on things.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 01:19:28 AM
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Originally posted by SLED
Kurt you are welcome to meet me on 202 VOX in the SEA right now.

I see you are on line at this time.

If don't then shut it.


Uh, First of all, I was in the other room sitting with my girlfriend watching a simpsons rerun... sorry the delay on the time out showed my name on the list.

Secondly, I'd like to thank you for your expertly adult reaction to my valid remarks.
Quote
shut it
.

I'm not soiling the reputation of Sue or 68ko... I'm simply pointing out that there is a flaw here that needs looking at.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 01:26:41 AM
Actually it looks like your post was just before mine, I'll come discuss, and you can explain why you think your 'shut it' remark was a reasonable response for an adult while we are there.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 01:47:32 AM
Kurt and I talked,

I want to apologize for telling him "Shut-it"

That was unnecessary.

 However I felt that if Sue reads this post. (god i hope not)
that she would feel that she had done something wrong, and break off her association with AH. And that would be a terrible shame.

Kurt pointed out a valid concern and we will try to guard against it.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 01:49:32 AM
Sled and I discussed this in Vox and I think we came to some kind of clarity.

SO I want to make clear to Sue and everyone else, reading this thread that my concern here is purely generic.  I do not have any specific concern with what happened tonite.  And I'm not concerned about the use of the 68KO account by sue to visit.

I hope everyone is crystal clear about that and I'd like to extend an apology to anyone who felt I was out of line.

Sled and I also discussed some ways to prevent a misunderstanding like this happening again, and I hope he'll have some luck making that happen.

68KO, Sue...
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 01:53:25 AM
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Originally posted by ROC
Although in this case, Sue is 100% a non threat, I do have to agree with Kurt that the squads really need to keep tabs on their roster, it can undermine the credibility of an event if it were just about anyone else but Sue.

Good thing to remind all the players about, we have a no walkon rule and a no launching after the action starts for a reason.  Too easy to disco just as the action starts, if you are about to die off.  Too easy to log in "late" and launch after starting on the wrong side and seeing where the fleets have spawned too.

Too easy to lose credibility, even when most of the situations are perfectly harmless.  We aren't close enough to look each other in the eyes and shake hands, the only thing we have to back up credibility is actual actions.  Worthy of an extra moment to keep tabs on things.


Thanks for your understanding Roc.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: 1redrum on December 01, 2007, 01:55:23 AM
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 02:10:31 AM
Actually, like this thread, why?

I think it shows that if you have a serious problem with someone or something on the BB's, and you really are interested in solving it, get on some form of VOX communication and talk about it.

You will be amazed at how fast a resolution can be achieved if you TALK to someone. Pounding on a keyboard is a little to detached, it is way to easy to say things you wouldn't say if you are TALKING to someone. Plus in VOX people hear your inflection and emotion. and that means a lot.

I want to thank Kurt for talking to me. It was what this situation needed.

:aok
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 02:13:49 AM
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Originally posted by SLED

I want to thank Kurt for talking to me. It was what this situation needed.

:aok


You're welcome, and you're correct, it was needed...sorely...

This was the kind of discussion that could have degenerated for days into name-calling and chaos.

While I didn't appreciate the words you used to call me into that chat, I'm glad you suggested handling it in vox.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
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Originally posted by 1redrum



:rofl


 now that is funny!!!
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Stoney74 on December 01, 2007, 10:02:28 AM
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Originally posted by SLED
I think it shows that if you have a serious problem with someone or something on the BB's, and you really are interested in solving it, get on some form of VOX communication and talk about it...Plus in VOX people hear your inflection and emotion. and that means a lot...I want to thank Kurt for talking to me.

:aok


You guys need a room now, or what?  

:eek:
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 01:41:45 PM
:lol
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 01:45:37 PM
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Originally posted by Stoney74
You guys need a room now, or what?  

:eek:


Hey, if this is starting to go down the way it sounds, I'm getting nervous... There better be a least a strong drink involved.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: REP0MAN on December 01, 2007, 01:48:28 PM
Wow, look what happens when I sleep in and try to do some yard work. Jeesh.

Since it has been fixed, I will not elaborate more than this....

I knew about it....
I didn't believe to be an issue....

Please, if anyone has an issue that needs addressing, my email is in my siggy. Please utilize email to contact me prior to coming here. NOT a knock on Kurt, just saying as we go forward.

Thanks!

:aok

P.S. I think a Kurt and SLED hug is in order :D
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 01:51:17 PM
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Originally posted by REP0MAN

P.S. I think a Kurt and SLED hug is in order :D



Been there , done that. :aok
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Kurt on December 01, 2007, 02:05:10 PM
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Originally posted by SLED
Been there , done that. :aok


And I got a reach-around too!
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 02:22:16 PM
Least I could do. After you were so good to me.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: daddog on December 01, 2007, 02:28:29 PM
:huh
You guys are sick.




:D
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Husky01 on December 01, 2007, 02:30:58 PM
Ew.
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: forHIM on December 01, 2007, 02:53:34 PM
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Originally posted by Husky01
Ew.


I think you meant "ewe"

;)
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: 68KO on December 01, 2007, 09:34:37 PM
hmm...  interesting stuff
Title: Re: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: 4XTCH on December 01, 2007, 11:33:52 PM
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Originally posted by Kurt
In the logs I found this entry under Japanese..

! 347th Fighter Group !  
68KO
22:08:05 Departed from Field #13 in a Gunner-Observer
22:18:25 Vanished without a trace.
22:19:30 Departed from Field #13 in a Gunner-Observer
22:41:20 Vanished without a trace.
22:42:28 Departed from Field #10 in a Gunner-Observer
22:50:25 Was shot down by unknown enemy.


347th was an Allied Squadron - NOT AXIS....  Yet it would appear 68KO was riding along on the Japanese team for the first hour of the event!

Can someone check to see if this is correct?  If so, its very disturbing.



If you'd looked a little farther you would have seen this as well.
~364th FG C-HAWKS  
4XTCH
22:05:57 Departed from Field #13 in a N1K2-J
22:08:05 Joined by 68KO as gunner/observer.
22:19:30 Joined by 68KO as gunner/observer.
22:25:23 Shot down a F4U-1D flown by Finn.
22:26:45 Helps SubwayCH shoot down SthLanda.
22:42:28 Joined by 68KO as gunner/observer.
22:46:11 Shot down a Seafire Mk IIc flown by 1Cajun.
22:50:27 Was shot down by unknown enemy.

Why not just ask me? I would have cleared it right up. A private PM would have been in order and probably saved some very hurt feelings all the way
around.
Thanks Kurt

4XTCH
Title: Rep0 - Can you explain this?
Post by: Sled on December 01, 2007, 11:39:57 PM
Point well taken 4X, but lets let this go guys. it's over. I think all understand now.