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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on December 02, 2007, 01:13:33 AM
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(http://www.taurususa.com/whatsnew/images/whatsnew-theJudge.jpg)
Anyone fired one of these bad boys? I think I'm in love...
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wasn't there a thread about this gun about 2 weeks ago?
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No.
I mentioned it in a thread about Lazs, but there wasn't a thread about it.
I want to know if anyone has fired one. It looks badass. I tried to get one at Cabella's but they were sold out.
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A gun named the judge? Wouldn't "executioner" be more appropriate? :)
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ahh I remember seeing it, and personally thinking that thing looks like a monster to shoot. I'm guessing 1 hulla of a kick, and it looks a bit awkward.
what would it be used for? it can't be that accurate with such a short barrel and such a powerful round? the width of the main part of the gun doesn't make it concealed well.
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Was curious `bout the name so I looked it up on their website.
INTRODUCING THE “TAURUS JUDGE”
THE ULTIMATE SELF DEFENSE MODEL .45/.410
Miami, FL – Appropriately called the “Taurus Judge” because of the number of judges who carry the new Taurus model .45/.410 into the courtroom, this powerful revolver is the final word in close quarters combat.
Interestingly enough, this popped up on the same list of results on the first page of the search engine results:
Aug. 1, 2007
Senate passes judge handgun bill
By Lynn Bonner, Staff Writer
A bill allowing judges to carry handguns to work won final legislative approval today.
The bill, which passed the Senate 40-7, now goes to Gov. Mike Easley (North Carolina) for his signature.
A courthouse shooting in Atlanta that killed a judge and a courtroom employee two years ago helped prompt the legislation, along with requests from individual judges.
Sen. John Snow, a retired judge from Murphy, said he wouldn't feel the need to carry a gun, but knew a chief judge who took one to work in his briefcase every day.
Snow voted for the bill.
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Just sharin'. Found them both interestin'.
But - back to topic. Haven't myself but it sure looks like hell on wrists.
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Originally posted by JB73
ahh I remember seeing it, and personally thinking that thing looks like a monster to shoot. I'm guessing 1 hulla of a kick, and it looks a bit awkward.
what would it be used for? it can't be that accurate with such a short barrel and such a powerful round? the width of the main part of the gun doesn't make it concealed well.
Wasn't on Taurus' list of concealed revolvers. (Yet, anyway)
Had to go to their news releases to get more info than just a pic.
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Yeah, it looks like a monster to fire. I like a .45 for personal defense, but a .410/.45 ? Aye Carumba!
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What happened to the "Thunder Five"? Maybe I shall google.
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http://www.thunder5.com/docs1.html
not as good looking as the Taurus for sure
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7B3k9FclpU
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Never fired the Judge but I have fired one of these bad boys. Talk about your hand cannon.
(http://world.guns.ru/handguns/amt_automag_iii.jpg)
AMT Automag III:
A large single action semi automatic weapon, this is the brainchild of Harry Sanford, creator of the original automag. It does not fire a true magnum cartridge, but the .30 carbine load, a cartridge originally designed to be used in light rifles and the M-1 carbine. The Automag III is the first selfloading handgun to SUCCESFULLY chamber this cartridge. The first such a pistol, the Kimball, suffered from being very fragile and a far too short barrel to launch the highspeed bullet from.
It has a 8 shot magazine and is, like all of the AMT guns, made of stainless steel.
Weight: 2.2 lbs (1 kg)
Caliber: .30 Carbine
Barrel: 6.5 inch (16.7 cm)
Action: Single action
Range: 165 ft (50 m)
Payload: 8 + 1
Cost: $ 500
Made in: USA
Special: Only in stainless steel, adjustable sights standard.
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The Judge looks like an overrated novelty to me. The 410 has always been a questionable cartridge. I bought a Mossberg 410 home defense shotgun that seemed like a good idea, and was fun to shoot, but when it comes right down to the most effective defense, can't beat a 12-gauge coach shotgun or similar and any version of the Springfield XD .45 ACP or similar semiautos.
The Mossberg literature and videotape compared the 410 effects to a .357 Magnum. But then you get into the issue of shot penetration vs. bullet penetration. Better choice seems to be a .45 ACP with the normal reliable 230-grain jacketed bullet. That's the close quarters caliber that lives forever.
Having said that. the .45 long Colt is another highly respected cartridge that lives forever. Apparently can't go wrong with that.
I looked at a Ruger .30 Carbine SA revolver. Rather large, interesting, but I prefer a regular replica .30 Carbine instead of a .30 Carbine handgun. After all, the carbine was designed as a sidearm substitute, and does very well in that capacity.
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It should have very little recoil. the 45 colt is a low pressure round with very little kick.
I really think that there are much better firearms out there for anything that thing will do. I just don't see a spot for it in my gunsafe. No interest in the gun at all.
I do have a 1917 smith in 45 acp that takes full moon clips (an early speedloader)... guys used to cut the smith and colt WWI jobs down a little and shoot both shot and slug... it was popular to do back when.. then there was the model 25 and others in both 45 acp and 45 colt with snubby barrels...
They really don't kick tho with those weak rounds.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
It should have very little recoil. the 45 colt is a low pressure round with very little kick.
They really don't kick tho with those weak rounds.
lazs
Based on your review, I may take to callin' you "The Judge", Laz. ;) :aok
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well.. felt recoil is pretty much a personal thing I will admit but the 45 colt was never considered a hard kicking round. In the 40's and 50's it was loaded down and actually had less energy than it did in black powder form since so many black powder revolvers were still around and the ammo makers didn't want the higher pressure of smokeless powder to damage the old guns.
Have you ever fired an old colt with modern 45 rounds? not much kick there.
lazs
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Long Colts in my SAR. Didn't break the hand, if that's what you mean. `Sides .... a bit of kick was lost tween cylinder and barrel. ;)
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Originally posted by LePaul
A gun named the judge? Wouldn't "executioner" be more appropriate? :)
In Texas...they are the same. Judge and executioner that is.:D
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Thought it was about that :cry
(http://images.highperformancepontiac.com/features/0612hppp_01z+1969_pontiac_gto_judge_front_view.jpg)
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arlo..you don't know much about guns do you? even the ones you own.
I have shot many single action colts and clones and double action smiths in 45 colt and they all are very mild with factory loads.
They all have a B/C gap.. perhaps you know of a semi auto in 45 colt?
And.. why do you need a gun that shoots so many rounds anyway... You don't need a revolver to hunt ducks. and.. think of all the school kids you could kill with a revolver! a weapon of mass destruction a virtual machine gun! Pretty much an "assault pistol"
lazs
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Thought it was about that :cry
(http://images.highperformancepontiac.com/features/0612hppp_01z+1969_pontiac_gto_judge_front_view.jpg)
Woulda been a lot cooler if it were.
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Read about this in Guns & Ammo. Interesting piece.
My brother just bought a 50 cal smith & wesson last night. Ammo is about 2.50 a round. Looks cool but nothing to use around here. He may do some hunting with it.
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you might want to learn the art of reloading ammo for that gun.
The .50 smith is another handgun that I don't see in my future.. it crosses the line on the whole "bulky" issue. If I am gonna pack that thing then I would just as soon pack a rifle.
So far... the 44 mag seems to be about the best compromise between power and size for me.
lazs
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The Box of Truth boys did a test with the Judge and weren't too impressed with the .410 slug or buckshot stopping power.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm)