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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CptTrips on December 04, 2007, 10:18:47 AM
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TOS: Best-
Hmmm, Sooo many good ones. Probably my favorite "Balance of Terror". Kirk hunting down that cloaked Romulan ship with the massive plasma weapon. Reminded me of an old WWII Destroyer vs. Sub movie.
TOS: Worst-
The one with where Kirk has amnesia and dresses up like an American Indian in buckskins and head-dress. Even as a kid I was like...WTF?
TNG: Best -
There are a couple I like. My favorite is the one where Picard gets zapped by the probe and imagines a whole life spent on this a planet with a failing Ozone layer that was slowly killing off the plant life. At the end, they open it up and all it has in it is the flute he dreamed he had learned to play.
TNG: Worst-
Any episode where Riker is beardless and has Q in it!
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wow, hard to pick.
Favorite original Trek, "A Piece of the Action" "City on the Edge of Forever"
Worst "Spocks Brain" I also never liked the one with half black/half white and halfwhite/half black
Favorite TNG - "Casino Royale" where they find a planet that just has a casino on it, and a room where some astronaut got lost like 200 years before. Also the one where they keep playing the same poker game over and over before finally they figure out they're in some sort of time loop...and die over and over again.
I actually liked most of the episodes with Q, not the first couple
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Blasphemy! The Q episodes were some of the best!
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Originally posted by AKWabbit
TOS: Best-
Hmmm, Sooo many good ones. Probably my favorite "Balance of Terror". Kirk hunting down that cloaked Romulan ship with the massive plasma weapon. Reminded me of an old WWII Destroyer vs. Sub movie.
"The Enemy Below" with Robert Mitchum and Curd Jürgens. Pretty good movie made in 1957.
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Originally posted by Saxman
Blasphemy! The Q episodes were some of the best!
I very much agree. Q was cool :)
TIGERESS
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I agree with AKWabbit on the best TNG.
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Worst "Spocks Brain" I also never liked the one with half black/half white and halfwhite/half black
Hahha. "Spock's Brain". Forgot about that one!
I remember growing up there where 2 UHF TV channels in town. (Yes youngsters this was before cable! We had like maybe 5 TV channels...)
Well, I guess they had some kind of deal and every 6 months they would switch off which channel showed the series and when they switched they would do a 3 day marathon and show all the episodes back to back in order. I was glued to the TV all weekend, staying up til all hours.
My bastid parents never would buy me the hard-cover edition of the "Official Star Trek Technical Manual". Grrrrrr.
:rofl
Wab
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Originally posted by Shuffler
"The Enemy Below" with Robert Mitchum and Curd Jürgens. Pretty good movie made in 1957.
Yeah thats the one!
Wab
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BTW that TNG episode was called "The Inner Light"
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Best old
Requiem for Methuselah
Worst old
The lights of Zatar
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TOS Best: Mirror, Mirror where Kirk and co are transported to the evil Enterprise and Spock has a goatee.
Space Seed comes in a close second, where we meet Khan.
TOS worst: I looked but couldn't find one worse than The Paradise Syndrome that AKWabbit already mentioned.
TNG Best: The one where Tasha dies. Couldn't stand her character. JK.
In all seriousness, The Inner Light wins hands down. Next on the list would be The Best of Both Worlds Parts I & II where Picard is captured by the Borg.
TNG Worst: Encounter at Farpoint. Aside from counselor Troy's miniskirt, there were no redeeming qualities about that episode and IMHO a terrible way to start a great series.
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I was never a fan of TOS so I can't remember any specific episodes...
TNG favs are the one with Data vs Moriarty... the Picard maneuver, almost any Q episode, the Barkley is a genius one... thats all I can think of.
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Originally posted by Shuffler
"The Enemy Below" with Robert Mitchum and Curd Jürgens. Pretty good movie made in 1957.
good action, but the ending was too hokey.
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TNG worst: 'Genesis', the one where everyone 'devolves' into lemurs and spiders. Also 'Shades of Grey' which was just a clip show.
TNG Best: The Inner Light, the above mentioned 'lives a lifetime in his head' episode.
TOS best: City on the Edge of Forever
TOS worst: Spock's Brain ties with Catspaw for me.
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I have to say TOS Best: Wrath of Khan.
Yeah I know, it was a movie. But it's so much a "Part 2" you almost HAVE to include it.
Besides, to paraphrase Comic Book Guy: BEST...TREK...EVER.
As awkward and disappointing as some of the Season 1 and 2 episodes of TNG could be, you HAVE to give props because they retired the Starfleet Mini for female characters about the time S3 kicked off. Those girls just looked SO good. :D
Which ties into:
Best DS9: Trials and Tribble-ations.
The look on the Time Travel Investigators' faces when Sisko said they encounted the original Enterprise ("Oh HIM...." ROFL! ) was priceless. It was a good all around episode, and I LOVED how well they integrated the original footage with the new (how many 24th Century Starfleet officers can say they brawled with Klingons alongside Scotty and got a dressing-down by Kirk HIMSELF?) Odo smitten with the tribble (mirroring Spock's own "illogical" affection from the original episode) and Quark's irritated expression when they've taken over the Promenade at the end. The entire crew poking fun at Worf's recounting of his peoples' "glorious" battle to exterminate them. Bashir possibly being his own grandfather. Sisko risking the timeline to speak at least ONCE with Kirk ("I'd have done the same." Lol!)
And of course, Jadzia in the Starfleet Mini. Rowr! ("...and women wore less!")
(http://www.trekdnes.cz/images/epizody/ds9/104/big/233.jpg)
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TOS worst: The Lazarus Effect? Not sure about the title but pretty cheaply made episode. Or the one with the gunfight at the OK Corral, or the one with the Empath. Really cheap sets.
TOS best: I like a ton of them, but if I had too pick only one it would the "The Doomsday Machine" with William Windom as Commodore Matt Decker. He was great.
I liked the one with the M5 computer too, that they wired up to control the Enterprise automatically, and the one where they find the all-powerful space-happy probe, Nomad. Kirk displays a real gift for out-arguing computers.
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TOS balance of Terror.
TNG none, worst Sci fi ever.
Best starttrek movie? Trekies.
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If we're ranking the movies:
1. Khaaaaaaaan!
2. Klingon Shakespeare
3. The One With The Whales(c)
4. That'll Do, Borg
5. The Motionless Picture
(tied)
6. Good pacing allowed is not! Is movie forbidden!
7. Kirk loses his grip, figuratively and literally.
The last three are bland, poor quality mish-mashes that barely meet the basic criteria of complete films, with the one exception that each fights to see which can outdo the other in boring pontification and poor lighting.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
If we're ranking the movies:
1. Khaaaaaaaan!
2. Klingon Shakespeare
3. The One With The Whales(c)
4. That'll Do, Borg
5. The Motionless Picture
(tied)
6. Good pacing allowed is not! Is movie forbidden!
7. Kirk loses his grip, figuratively and literally.
The last three are bland, poor quality mish-mashes that barely meet the basic criteria of complete films, with the one exception that each fights to see which can outdo the other in boring pontification and poor lighting.
Ok
1. Agreed. By far the best.
2. Agreed again.
3. I'll give you that one.
4. Ditto.
5. Sorry, now. TMP was the worst of the TOS lot. Put III here.
6. Generations
7. For all its faults, you have GOT to admit that this had some of the funniest interplay between the characters. I mean, come ON!
Sulu: "We've been caught in a....We've been caught in a blizzard."
*Chekov blows into the communicator* "And ve ken't see a ting! Ve request you direct us to the coordinates!"
Uhura: "Visual says sunny skies and 76 degrees."
Chekov: "Sulu look. The sun's come out. Eet's a meeracle!"
8. I
The last two aren't even worth mentioning.
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TNG: The Roddenberry ones are not my favorite. The lighting was poor (smile, Jordi, so we can see you!) and the drama was just overblown and weak. When Gene died and Rick Berman took over, the lighting, camera angles and action improved greatly.
I liked all the Q episodes (especially the ones in Voyager). Plus the ones with Nimoy (Unification?)
"The First Duty" where they investigate the Starfleet Academy Team's crash was good. As was the one with Kelsey Grammar (333s, etc)...when they are stuck in a time loop. (Cause & Effect)
"The Game" with Ashley Judd gave us some nice eye candy for once :)
Tasha was good riddance for me too. She banged an Android. Yay her. Then a black sludge killed her. Wow.
The last episode (All Good Things) was well done.
Season 5-7 were my favorites.
Worst...when Wil breaks some lame law on the planet of the 'overtly gay people who wear tissue paper'.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Worst...when Wil breaks some lame law on the planet of the 'overtly gay people who wear tissue paper'.
for me any TNG episode with Will as the center of the story was bad, he should have been in day care....instead of wandering the ship...
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I was never much impressed with the logic behind TNG's "Space Exploration is long but safer now so bring along the families in our battleship/cruise liner ..... whoops ..... except for when we meet Q .... decks three through seven breached .... whoops ... except for when we meet Borg ..... decks eight through twelve breached ..... whoops .... well ok, we were wrong .... good thing you had Wesley on board, though."
:lol :aok
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Best TOS: The City on the Edge of Forever
Worst TOS: Turnabout Intruder...absolutely horrible!
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TOS Best - A Taste of Armageddon - War between two planets is so sanitized that a computer decides who dies and they willfully walk into the disintigration machines.
TNG Best - Clues - The crew think Data is lying when he says they were all knocked out for 30 seconds and things point to the fact they were out for at least a day.
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Originally posted by AKWabbit
TOS: Worst-
The one with where Kirk has amnesia and dresses up like an American Indian in buckskins and head-dress. Even as a kid I was like...WTF?
What are you on about? It is clear you were a kid when you saw it because if you had been a bit older ... like I was ... you would have ignored everything except the beautiful Squaw that Kirk hooked up with. Played by the stunningly beautiful Playboy Bunny and later California state senator Sabrina Scharf and her legs that just goes on and on and on...
It's easily the best TOS episode of them all! ;)
As for TNG ... yes it is "The Inner Light". This episode is perhaps the best example of what I was babbling about in that other Star Trek thread. There is very little action in this episode, very little "science", very few special effects. Star Trek is about the people and the often hard choices they have to make, NOT the technobabble and the space battles and effects ... those are just scenery. Despite some bad acting now and then the cast works very well together and with such a strong lead actor as Patrick Stewart (a Shakespearean nothing less) TNG has managed to pull off ... in my opinion ... some of the most moving and thought provoking television ever.
The "Chain of Command" two-part episode is my second favorite ... again almost entirely carried by Stewart's great talent for acting ... where Picard is tortured by the Cardassians. Seeing the almost broken Picard defyingly yell "there are four lights!" to his torturer was heartbreaking and shocking. Never before had Picard been so vulnerable and stripped bare of all but his integrity.
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/7/7e/Rescued.jpg)
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The one thing I hate about the TNG Enterprise....seldom, if effort, can it ever kick butt. Two phaser hits and Jordi is yelling "Coolant leak" Flagship my butt...the thing has a bum radiator!
At least with Voyager, frequently it hugely outgunned the bad guys and kicked butt.
Anyways....just noticing how the "Enterprise" in general seems to always suck.
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Well, point of order in Generations was that the Enterprise was largely destroyed through treachery. Fair fight 1701-D would have waporized that Bird of Prey the instant she uncloaked.
Has anyone else noticed that phasers were essentially forgotten in the movies? The only time they were ever used in the films was Star Trek II.
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Originally posted by Viking
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/7/7e/Rescued.jpg)
I guess its just me, but they all remind me of Gumby from Monty Python
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Originally posted by Saxman
waporized
Is that you Chekov?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Is that you Chekov?
"look Keptin, an enemy wessel, shall I waperiz it?"
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Originally posted by Viking
Trek is about the people and the often hard choices they have to make, NOT the technobabble and the space battles and effects ...
Well, I may not be able to agree with you on the Cherokee Nation is space episode, but we do agree on this point.
Most of the best episodes of both TOS and TNG have far less to do with special effects and space battles than basic Human conflict. Even when the Humans had green skin or pointy ears. Sure, I like the occational Bird of Prey or Borg battle with phasers blasting too. Even Shakespeare knew when to throw in a good old fashion sword fight to spice things up. But the best episodes of either had characters, conflict and motivations that could have easiily come from "King Lear", "Macbeth", or "Moby Dick".
"Chain of Command". Wow. I forgot about that one. That would have to run a VERY close second. There is also the episode where Picard went home to his family farm to rest after having been used by the Borg. That was a very good one too.
Wab
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TOS my favorite is "the trouble with rribbles"
TNG my favorite is the one where they have the aliens on board who are studying e,mption. always loved warf's rant of 'I want to disembowl him!!! I will tear him limb from limb!!"
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Once in a blue moon, well, rather more frequently it seems, well get a new poster on this BBS who starts a thread in complete gibberi...err, leet speak that no-one understands. I'll hit him with this;
Shaka, when the walls fell. Temba, his arms wide. Mirab, his sails unfurled.
Then he usualy replies, "Yo dood, wtf??/???"
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Kaatuu barata *cough cough.* ;)
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DS9 Rejoined was a pretty good episode...
(http://www.queertv.btinternet.co.uk/images/rejoined.jpg)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
DS9 Rejoined was a pretty good episode...
(http://www.queertv.btinternet.co.uk/images/rejoined.jpg)
Red Altert! All Decks! Red Alert!
:rofl
Wab
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(http://upx.primenova.com/2/st4/st2-saavik.jpg)
Sorry T'Pol, but THIS is what a sexy Vulcan looks like.
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(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a0/250px-JayneCobb.jpg)
"I'll be in my bunk."
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What's Kirstie drinkin in her juice box?
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
What's Kirstie drinkin in her juice box?
Why, Romulan ale of course!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Once in a blue moon, well, rather more frequently it seems, well get a new poster on this BBS who starts a thread in complete gibberi...err, leet speak that no-one understands. I'll hit him with this;
Shaka, when the walls fell. Temba, his arms wide. Mirab, his sails unfurled.
Then he usualy replies, "Yo dood, wtf??/???"
Sokath, his eyes open!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a0/250px-JayneCobb.jpg)
"I'll be in my bunk."
Hell, Tex .... ain't none `o these alliance types gonna get yer Firefly reference. ;)
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How'd Maj. John Casey, NSA get here?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Cobb
"I'll kill a man in a fair fight, or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight… If he bothers me, or if there's a woman… Or if I'm gettin' paid. Mostly only when I'm gettin' paid."
:D
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Why, Romulan ale of course!
That must be extremely fattening.
(http://notoriousjdt.blogs.com/wlt/images/kirstie.jpg)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
What's Kirstie drinkin in her juice box?
I'm guessing gravy.
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Dammit. Don't destroy the image! I want to remember Kirstie Alley from when she was actually hot. Ok, yeah, so you have to go back 25 years but that's not the point!
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Persis Khambatta was hot. Any woman who looks this hot with a shaved head is a beautiful woman.
(http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/vjer.jpg)
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Yer all wrong. The hottest Trek babe is Yeoman Rand.
(http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~curtdan/Excelsior/Rand5_Big.jpg) (http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~curtdan/Excelsior/Rand6_Big.jpg)
I used to date a girl that looked like her twin.
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^ that blonde is one of the main reasons i watched the early star trek stuff without fail.. her, and the interplay between the main characters kirk, spock, mcoy and scotty made the show for me.
the latter 2 series' with the exception of patrick stewarts acting i thought were pretty crappy in comparison with the original series, so i watched very little of them.
it's obvious from reading this thread though that some posters either are hardcore trekkie fans or have amazing memory recall coz i can’t remember enough to put a name to a single original series episode.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Persis Khambatta was hot. Any woman who looks this hot with a shaved head is a beautiful woman.
(http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/vjer.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/KyleSally.jpg)
Heck yeah, bald is beautiful!
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lol @ DiabloTX :D
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TOS - I liked "Shore Leave"
TNG - "The Inner Light" One of the best pieces of TV I have ever seen. IF you weren't chocked up alittle at the end, you are not human. What an incredible story.
TNG - "Matter of Honor" Riker goes on a Klingon ship as the First Officer.
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TNG - "Yesterday's Enterprise" was my favorite.
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Hmmm T'Pol
best TNG: Inner Light, Darmok or Yesterdays Enterprise
worst TNG: Any first or second season ep..probably Shades of Grey
best TOS: Space Seed, Amok Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g82yZXXpxY8) or Mirror Mirror
worst TOS: Spock's Brain
Tronsky