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Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: MajIssue on December 07, 2007, 10:15:28 AM
This sounds like an oxymoron (squeekers look it up) but it seems there is alot that goes into a "good" spawn camp... As much as I hate upping into a camped spawn, I can't argue with the effectiveness in keeping gvs away from a base or port by camping the spawn point. Dr7 and Lynx stick out in my memory as do Rondar and Wonder. Who is your "King or Queen" of spawn camping?

My question (please ignore wether it is good or bad to camp a spawn because we've all see 'em) is what goes into an effective spawn camp and what is the "best" way to break one up short of a hoard decending on the spawn point?
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Simaril on December 07, 2007, 10:29:34 AM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
...My question ....what is the "best" way to break one up short of a hoard decending on the spawn point?



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Title: Re: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Lusche on December 07, 2007, 10:37:15 AM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
and what is the "best" way to break one up short of a hoard decending on the spawn point?


Bombs.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Scca on December 07, 2007, 10:38:34 AM
I have been dive bombed by lancs when spawn camping..  Worked for a short period of time...  

Pretty gamey though..

I prefer the F6F..  doesn't brake the spawn, but racks lots of kills up..
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rondar on December 07, 2007, 10:42:24 AM
Hmmmm  an effective spawn camp.  Well, for me, I do bring marshmellows and Shawk has promised to bring the hot chocolate this winter.:rofl
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: P47Gra on December 07, 2007, 11:10:25 AM
DR7


Me
My son NastyP47 is making an art out of it
Ironic can camp with the best of them
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: kamilyun on December 07, 2007, 11:12:49 AM
Dive bombing spawn campers in Lancs is gamey?  No more gamey than sitting behind an arbitrary magical spawn point and plinking the hapless souls.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: TwentyFo on December 07, 2007, 11:19:18 AM
DR7
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: LivrLips on December 07, 2007, 11:21:56 AM
My vote goes to Hooter, glad I don't have to face him, as I play the Knight side.  Honorable mentions to DR7, Rondar, and Wonder
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: kilz on December 07, 2007, 11:22:47 AM
me and CHISEL
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: waystin2 on December 07, 2007, 11:34:24 AM
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Originally posted by Scca
I have been dive bombed by lancs when spawn camping..  Worked for a short period of time...  

Pretty gamey though..

I prefer the F6F..  doesn't brake the spawn, but racks lots of kills up..


The HellKitty is my choice for popping tops on tin cans!:aok
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: FiLtH on December 07, 2007, 11:35:05 AM
I go get a plane and egg the guy. That usually ends the camp.
Title: Re: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Shuffler on December 07, 2007, 11:36:30 AM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
This sounds like an oxymoron (squeekers look it up) but it seems there is alot that goes into a "good" spawn camp... As much as I hate upping into a camped spawn, I can't argue with the effectiveness in keeping gvs away from a base or port by camping the spawn point. Dr7 and Lynx stick out in my memory as do Rondar and Wonder. Who is your "King or Queen" of spawn camping?

My question (please ignore wether it is good or bad to camp a spawn because we've all see 'em) is what goes into an effective spawn camp and what is the "best" way to break one up short of a hoard decending on the spawn point?


hmm I never remember spawn campers.... nothing impressive about it.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 07, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
Its easy. Just program the game to spawn GVs to different points around the actual spawn point. You can even make it random.

                       Im learning as I go along. So spawn camping is another neat little trick for the score potatos to up their rank right? Sort of like flying exactly 18 bomber sorties a month and finding a way to turn it into a top 10 bomber rating every month?:lol

                    I dont blame the people doing it. People will always find a way around anything, especially somthing as important as their cartoon rank in a cartoon war game. But AH should fix this. All camping does is ruin many a good potential fight. I got clipped 4 times in a row once before I realized what some nitwit was doing.

                  Exactly how does camping enhance the game and why would AH allow it?
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: hubsonfire on December 07, 2007, 12:08:24 PM
Spawn camping allows people to sit in one spot, do nothing, and get kills easily. It allows small groups of people to sit in one spot, do nothing, and rack up lots of kills. It's sort of like IRC, with artillery pieces.

Look at total kills per tour, Rich. Spawncamping is probably the single most popular activity, because it requires almost no skill- no SA, no complicated maneuvers, no extensive training required, no knowledge required of aircraft capabilities, weapon ranges, fuel states... it's vulching for the hopelessly inept.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: 68Ripper on December 07, 2007, 12:37:30 PM
Ok, here's my input on spawn camping, unfortuanately there are a lot of maps where the spawns are so close either to the base or the town that the spawners can just sit there at the spawn or maybe drive a couple hundred feet and start knocking down buildings. Case in point which is a prime example is the Map where A63 spawns into A1, the spawners can fire from the spawn point and take the town fairly fast... thus the need for spawn camping, even worse if one country has A1 and another Country has A2... A2 spawns right at A1's town!

I think that is the most extreme case but there are a lot of cases where the spawners can shoot from there spawn in tanks and take down buildings either on a base or that bases town depending where the spawn is.

To me spawn camping in most cases is needed to prevent base capture simple as that. Just as vulching is to prevent uppers from getting to town where you plan on letting out troops. Granted most vulching is done just for the sake of vulching. Vulching is a offensive tactic where as Spawn camping is a Defensive tactic.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 07, 2007, 01:17:38 PM
i own all in GVs...im the best GVer to ever play the game....w000000t
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: SuperDud on December 07, 2007, 01:20:26 PM
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Originally posted by BiPoLaR
i own all in GVs...im the best GVer to ever play the game....w000000t
No I aM!
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 07, 2007, 01:21:58 PM
ive owned you more that 4935867093476039486480685 times in gvs...haha...w000t along with everyone else that has ever rolled a GV on this game....
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 07, 2007, 02:21:27 PM
From what I can see spawn camping isn't a defensive tactic as much as its a Lifestyle. I mean how else can people consistently get 300 or 400+ kills in GVs to 20 or 30 deaths in 100 or so sorties?

                       At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?

                    Its no more a defensive tactic to help your team then jumping into a bomber a dozen times a month is, climbing to 25,000', and dropping on some lonely strat, with 90 people signed on, while never seeing a dar bar light up.

         
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Ok, here's my input on spawn camping, unfortuanately there are a lot of maps where the spawns are so close either to the base or the town that the spawners can just sit there at the spawn or maybe drive a couple hundred feet and start knocking down buildings. Case in point which is a prime example is the Map where A63 spawns into A1, the spawners can fire from the spawn point and take the town fairly fast... thus the need for spawn camping, even worse if one country has A1 and another Country has A2... A2 spawns right at A1's town!

I think that is the most extreme case but there are a lot of cases where the spawners can shoot from there spawn in tanks and take down buildings either on a base or that bases town depending where the spawn is.

To me spawn camping in most cases is needed to prevent base capture simple as that. Just as vulching is to prevent uppers from getting to town where you plan on letting out troops. Granted most vulching is done just for the sake of vulching. Vulching is a offensive tactic where as Spawn camping is a Defensive tactic.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: hubsonfire on December 07, 2007, 02:38:39 PM
On any map where there are the normal spawns, and spawns out to Tank Town areas, or as in the case of some of Fester's maps, where you have to drive from base to base, look to see where the most people are in tanks. I don't think it's really about offense or defense, so much as it's about easy kills with minimal effort.

Look at isles as a good example. Before, when the Spawns in the center island were within direct line of sight, you could count on dozens of vehicles out there, spawning in and letting the shells fly. When the terrain was redone, and you could no longer do that, it's popularity dropped immediately. That is telling.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Lusche on December 07, 2007, 02:43:44 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
From what I can see spawn camping isn't a defensive tactic as much as its a Lifestyle. I mean how else can people consistently get 300 or 400+ kills in GVs to 20 or 30 deaths in 100 or so sorties?


You don't necessarily need to spawncamp for a 10-1 K/D, but it surely helps ;)

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    At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?


The chance is sometimes bigger than you think, and defenitely much bigger than it used to be.
Back in the old days spawncamping was much easier. The terrain was better suited for a camper: generally flatter with small hills that almost all had a little plateau at their top. There you could sit at an higher elevation, but still level (easier to aim that way). Also the "grace period", where the spawning vehicle is not shown yet to the campers has been prolonged. But most important, the spawn point itself has been enlarged, so at many places it's nowadays not longer possible to cover every part, especially with more hedges, little hills & ridges.

If you have to break a spawn, do a coordinated effort. bring along some friends, don't spawn for a few minutes, then all at once. A few buddies dropping bombs at the same time are help too  (And with a bit of luck, you see a spawncamper whining about that "lame pilots bombing GVs" on CH200 :D)


 
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  Its no more a defensive tactic to help your team then jumping into a bomber a dozen times a month is, climbing to 25,000', and dropping on some lonely strat, with 90 people signed on, while never seeing a dar bar light up.


That's a improper comparison. It actually IS a defensive tactic. I try to prevent an enemy attack. As pointed out earlier, sometimes it is even mandatory to prevent a nearby town getting rushed.
If my base is under attack, I'll fight my way to the spawn if necessary.

If you don't like me to spawncamp, drop a bomb on me or - don't spawn. Camping without victims is ultimate boredom ;)
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: 68Ripper on December 07, 2007, 03:16:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
From what I can see spawn camping isn't a defensive tactic as much as its a Lifestyle. I mean how else can people consistently get 300 or 400+ kills in GVs to 20 or 30 deaths in 100 or so sorties?
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  Well apparently you don't see to well and sound like one of those "if you don't spend all your time in a fighter then nothing you do is worth mentioning" type people.
 
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                       At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?
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  Same ol furballers arguement, they put ya down for spawn camping but it's ok for "them" to vulch.  And for your information they don't spawn in the same place everytime.

Grow up!
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: kilz on December 07, 2007, 03:22:02 PM
spawn campers are not that hard to kill in a gv. i am fairly good at breaking the camp with a few spawns. LOL ask GMC31st:D
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Scca on December 07, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
From what I can see spawn camping isn't a defensive tactic as much as its a Lifestyle. I mean how else can people consistently get 300 or 400+ kills in GVs to 20 or 30 deaths in 100 or so sorties?
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  Well apparently you don't see to well and sound like one of those "if you don't spend all your time in a fighter then nothing you do is worth mentioning" type people.
 
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                       At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?
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  Same ol furballers arguement, they put ya down for spawn camping but it's ok for "them" to vulch.  And for your information they don't spawn in the same place everytime.

Grow up!

You won't find bombrich in a fighter, but try to take out one of his bombers....wherw!!
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Bear76 on December 07, 2007, 03:49:30 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Spawn camping allows people to sit in one spot, do nothing, and get kills easily. It allows small groups of people to sit in one spot, do nothing, and rack up lots of kills. It's sort of like IRC, with artillery pieces.

Look at total kills per tour, Rich. Spawncamping is probably the single most popular activity, because it requires almost no skill- no SA, no complicated maneuvers, no extensive training required, no knowledge required of aircraft capabilities, weapon ranges, fuel states... it's vulching for the hopelessly inept.
Kind of reminds me of you sitting off the end of a runway in a flak trying to rack up kills:D
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: hubsonfire on December 07, 2007, 04:43:00 PM
Like I said, vulching for the hopelessly inept. :D
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Solar10 on December 07, 2007, 05:01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo


                       At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?



You know... Rich you really need to experience before you can comment.

You have no change against vulchers unless they are really desparate for a kill and mess up, but with GV spawn campers there is every chance to break it because you do not spawn in the exact same location evey time in a GV (unless you are spawning at the hanger).
Title: Re: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: FBvirgil on December 07, 2007, 05:39:18 PM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
This sounds like an oxymoron (squeekers look it up) but it seems there is alot that goes into a "good" spawn camp... As much as I hate upping into a camped spawn, I can't argue with the effectiveness in keeping gvs away from a base or port by camping the spawn point. Dr7 and Lynx stick out in my memory as do Rondar and Wonder. Who is your "King or Queen" of spawn camping?

My question (please ignore wether it is good or bad to camp a spawn because we've all see 'em) is what goes into an effective spawn camp and what is the "best" way to break one up short of a hoard decending on the spawn point?





FESTER  AH1    150+kills 1  camp





B25h breaks camp fast got 12 other day breaking camp.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: ghi on December 07, 2007, 05:54:37 PM
smart tactic,laser rangefinder  firstshotkillers,sneaky not campers only: LTARs, dr7,baba,TopGunz,GENRLX,Chalenge ,Lynx,Pacerr and few more
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Slash27 on December 07, 2007, 10:12:44 PM
ghi spawncamps in lancs
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: SD67 on December 08, 2007, 12:16:26 AM
The best spawn camper I've met to date was Tecnine.
Ostis on a runway, that's a classic! Try doing an M3 full of vehicle supps at each end of a deacked field with a dead VH.
For some reason the sight of an M3 sends them all into an upping frenzy, you'll die most assuredly, but with 50+ odd kills under your belt:rofl
Title: Strategic planning or Spawn camp
Post by: eagleheartone on December 08, 2007, 04:20:14 AM
Seems to me that allot of you fighter jocks(lol) have no idea what it takes to complete a full mission on the ground.  If a person was to look at a map and set it in strategic settings, one country would just violate the other two.  Ah is not played in that aspect in the MA, it is all about furballin(which dont bother me). I used LW to gain fighter kills and still do to this day, I dont particularly play stategic in LW, no sense of command and everyone moving from on furball to another. Realistic WWII action in AH, well in LW it more like 4 monkeys F$%^&*kin a football if ya ask me.  Spawn camping.. the only one that complains is the one that keeps coming up over and over again (mind you not in same place everytime).  Its an advantage of a smart thinker, someone looking ahead to see where the enemy will attack next, and too keep red force's out; or delay them from their objective.  Furball(could be called a CAP), but mostly not.  Its your money, have fun, but dont expect LW to be called the best of the best arena, to me it is a large bowl of nuts, with a squirrel in the middle tryin to grab one.  SO, have fun and enjoy....  
<>   I can.. and will spawn camp... and kill  kill  kill    lol
Eagle
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: chrish483 on December 08, 2007, 05:12:58 AM
how about the ones that camp a spawn or VH alone with the intent to gain score points and not get the base?
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Lusche on December 08, 2007, 05:19:08 AM
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Originally posted by chrish483
how about the ones that camp a spawn or VH alone with the intent to gain score points and not get the base?


You can ruin their day by not upping.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: yanksfan on December 08, 2007, 05:46:14 AM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Spawn camping allows people to sit in one spot, do nothing, and get kills easily. It allows small groups of people to sit in one spot, do nothing, and rack up lots of kills. It's sort of like IRC, with artillery pieces.

Look at total kills per tour, Rich. Spawncamping is probably the single most popular activity, because it requires almost no skill- no SA, no complicated maneuvers, no extensive training required, no knowledge required of aircraft capabilities, weapon ranges, fuel states... it's vulching for the hopelessly inept.


And darn fun too! :aok

Hubs my favorite player
Title: Best Spawn Camper
Post by: TalonX on December 08, 2007, 06:07:45 AM
There are several great ones...

Dr7 is probably the best, since he is patient.

The most annoying were the ones that flanked the spawn point and shot you from behind.

Personally, I liked to spawn, quickly find a spot behind some cover, and camp away.  I have many months with over 1000 GV kills doing just that.

Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: goober69 on December 08, 2007, 07:03:38 AM
makes me wonder if anyone would still gv if you actualy had to drive to the base or town with no spawn, would make finding gvs to kill a little harder and campers would hate it, youd have to camp in town cause thats were there headed.
if a feild is being vulched or a spawn is caped i dont up. that simple.
when i do gv i dont like going in a straight line right where they expect you to be anyway, why give up easy kill? go the long way around, sure it takes more time but its safer lol.

the ground war in ah, can be fun,
but to me its just a diversion.
and as i dont really care about score or gving much spawn camping is not what id do as a pass time, to tell the truth any kind of score padding bores the p@** out of me. id rather be dying..... and having a blast doing it.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: The Fugitive on December 08, 2007, 09:50:04 AM
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
From what I can see spawn camping isn't a defensive tactic as much as its a Lifestyle. I mean how else can people consistently get 300 or 400+ kills in GVs to 20 or 30 deaths in 100 or so sorties?
_____________________________ __________________

  Well apparently you don't see to well and sound like one of those "if you don't spend all your time in a fighter then nothing you do is worth mentioning" type people.
 
_____________________________ __________________
                       At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?
_____________________________ __________________
 
  Same ol furballers arguement, they put ya down for spawn camping but it's ok for "them" to vulch.  And for your information they don't spawn in the same place everytime.

Grow up!


Your post is confusing.... are you fore, or against spawn camping?

For me, spawn camping is gaming the game, any looser can do it, I've even done it a couple times, and if I can do it, any one can. I don't think I've ever "saluted" anyone landing ills in a GV. 99% of the time there camping to get their kills.

I think HTC should set up a "no fire zone" with a 2k radius at all off base spawns. This way you get to spawn in, scan the area and terrain, pick your line of march, and move out.  

All bases should have a local spawn option that will spawn you 2k off the base so you can spawn near the base for defence, and not have to get hammered by some bozo parked inside the hanger.

I think then you would see some great GV battles. A lot more tactics would be used, heck you might even have squads grouped in columns advancing on a base for attack, tanks lining ridges waiting in ambush, M3's and M8's used as scouting vehicles to hunt these tanks.

Ah well, another aspect of the game that will never come about due to dweebery  of the "spawn camp"
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: SlapShot on December 08, 2007, 09:51:23 AM
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Same ol furballers arguement, they put ya down for spawn camping but it's ok for "them" to vulch.


Your confusing furballers with scorepotatos.

Furballers don't want to fight OVER a base ... they want to fight BETWEEN bases.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: panzerr on December 08, 2007, 10:53:28 AM
I enjoy camping occasionally, and during those times, when I start getting hit from a GV that's 4K-5K out, I know it can only be one person....DR7.

DR7!!  :aok
Title: Re: Strategic planning or Spawn camp
Post by: Masherbrum on December 08, 2007, 10:57:32 AM
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Originally posted by eagleheartone
Seems to me that allot of you fighter jocks(lol) have no idea what it takes to complete a full mission on the ground.  If a person was to look at a map and set it in strategic settings, one country would just violate the other two.  Ah is not played in that aspect in the MA, it is all about furballin(which dont bother me). I used LW to gain fighter kills and still do to this day, I dont particularly play stategic in LW, no sense of command and everyone moving from on furball to another. Realistic WWII action in AH, well in LW it more like 4 monkeys F$%^&*kin a football if ya ask me.  Spawn camping.. the only one that complains is the one that keeps coming up over and over again (mind you not in same place everytime).  Its an advantage of a smart thinker, someone looking ahead to see where the enemy will attack next, and too keep red force's out; or delay them from their objective.  Furball(could be called a CAP), but mostly not.  Its your money, have fun, but dont expect LW to be called the best of the best arena, to me it is a large bowl of nuts, with a squirrel in the middle tryin to grab one.  SO, have fun and enjoy....  
<>   I can.. and will spawn camp... and kill  kill  kill    lol
Eagle
Go potato another Arena and spare us your dimestore lectures about "tactics".  

I have one word when it comes to spawncamping:  FireHawk.   He was banned.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 08, 2007, 02:06:25 PM
FireHawk had tanks that could fly and speed away from a spawn at 300 mph
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 08, 2007, 02:08:55 PM
ive killed eaglefart over and over while he was trying to camp....you may have "tactics" but you lack in skills...w00t have a good day
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 08, 2007, 02:19:01 PM
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Originally posted by Solar10
You know... Rich you really need to experience before you can comment.

You have no change against vulchers unless they are really desparate for a kill and mess up, but with GV spawn campers there is every chance to break it because you do not spawn in the exact same location evey time in a GV (unless you are spawning at the hanger).


                              Naw, I'll comment anyway. Obviously you may not spawn at exactly the same point but when you are killed 4 times in a row by the same score whoring nit-wit you are also ,obviously, not spawning that far apart.

                           I admit I mistook "vulchers" for "cheery-pickers", so let me re-address that and say vulchers suck too. I just never see them cause I almost never take off or land at front line bases. I'll still say you have more of a chance against vulchers then spawn campers. Ive shot down quite a few vulchers from land guns and anti-air GVs. One mutt was killing airplanes still on the runway and I murdered him from a land gun.

                        I just hope I never care that much about racking kills, and upping rank, by playing in such a way. Either SC'ing or vulching.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Reapr on December 08, 2007, 02:57:05 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
From what I can see spawn camping isn't a defensive tactic as much as its a Lifestyle. I mean how else can people consistently get 300 or 400+ kills in GVs to 20 or 30 deaths in 100 or so sorties?

                       At least with Vulchers you have a fighting chance. What chance do you have popping up in the exact same location in a GV, engines off, with some score potato sitting there shooting everyone unlucky enough to spawn?

                    Its no more a defensive tactic to help your team then jumping into a bomber a dozen times a month is, climbing to 25,000', and dropping on some lonely strat, with 90 people signed on, while never seeing a dar bar light up.


In all fairness the ones who spawn camp also know how to clear out a spawn in a matter of seconds without useing bombs. Everyone was talking about Dr7 always spawn camping but he can kill you face to face at 6k just as easily.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: kilz on December 08, 2007, 06:51:30 PM
I LIKE CANDY CANES :D
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: panzerr on December 08, 2007, 08:26:47 PM
Actually, my reference to DR7 was in the context of me camping and him hitting me from 4K-5K out.:O
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: WWhiskey on December 08, 2007, 09:00:33 PM
I enjoy it sometimes, it is fun to see how many times someone will try to up before realizeing it is hopeless,then goes to get some ord. Usually newbies are the worst (or most frequent), but you will get a few older players that fight the camp. I have done it and upped 10 times in a tiger once not even thinking, then someone will LOL on 200 and remind me what a moron i look like.
The best place to camp in the game as it is now is the pt spawns, if you can get into place in another pt. Me and another player got over 35 kills each and landed them. i didnt even know how to land a pt boat till that day!
Ambush, is what it is called in the real world and it is a vital tactic,the game is what it is but the spawn camp is vital as well!

It is also a good way for a small number of defenders to protect a base from capture!
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: LTARghst on December 08, 2007, 10:11:27 PM
Spawn Camping can be fun AND Boring. But there is nothing more fun than breaking a spawn camp, other than breaking a VH camp. The other day popped out of a VH camp an killed 3 Campers HeHe MRmeaty). You can tell in God Mode who know what their doing an who doesn't by the way they set up. Same goes for Spawn camping. The people who complain about this is the ones who reSpawn constantly and Die.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: BaldEagl on December 09, 2007, 01:35:29 AM
I guess if HT didn't want spawn camping they wouldn't allow maps with opposing spawns right next to one another huh?  These are sometimes some of the best GV battles in the game.

BTW Rich, vulching and the "mutt killing airplanes still on the runway" are also sometimes known as "capping a base".  :rolleyes:
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 09, 2007, 10:40:05 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I guess if HT didn't want spawn camping they wouldn't allow maps with opposing spawns right next to one another huh?  These are sometimes some of the best GV battles in the game.

BTW Rich, vulching and the "mutt killing airplanes still on the runway" are also sometimes known as "capping a base".  :rolleyes:


                           Naw I think any mutt who would kill a damaged fighter landing, with wheels on runway, is a "mutt killing airplanes on runway". I remember now that particular mutt. He tried to shoot up a damaged fighter in the final stages of landing until I zapped him.

                         I always though "capping a base" meant establishing air superiority on it, not 'shooting airplanes still on the runway". Ive spent some time in GVs and land guns and very rarely see mutts killing airplanes on runways, so, in that respect Im glad in that most in AH have honor.

                     And really Eagle I cant see you doing it either. You've been around to long to shoot airplanes still on the runways. Im just glad I fly bombers.

                   Yaknow the more and more I learn about this game the less I give "WTGs" after a landing message. I have to know the guy now, or they have to be landing bombers.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: kennyhayes on December 09, 2007, 01:19:09 PM
me i am a master of it but i quit.
:cool:
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Spikes on December 09, 2007, 01:29:14 PM
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Originally posted by kennyhayes
me i am a master of it but i quit.
:cool:


Sure you are a master.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: MajIssue on December 10, 2007, 09:56:15 AM
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Originally posted by ghi
smart tactic,laser rangefinder  firstshotkillers,sneaky not campers only: LTARs, dr7,baba,TopGunz,GENRLX,Chalenge ,Lynx,Pacerr and few more



Good to see you posting again ghi... We miss you in Bishland, and hope to see you in tha MA soon my friend!

My vote goes to (In no particular order) Dr7, Wonder, Lynx, & Rondar. Is it a cooincidence that most are rooks?

It seems to me that rooks spend more time camping spawns than the knights... We bishops Never:rolleyes: camp a spawn... do we? :lol
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: MajIssue on December 10, 2007, 10:08:39 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I guess if HT didn't want spawn camping they wouldn't allow maps with opposing spawns right next to one another huh?  These are sometimes some of the best GV battles in the game.

BTW Rich, vulching and the "mutt killing airplanes still on the runway" are also sometimes known as "capping a base".  :rolleyes:


Agreed BE...

Is camping the runway of an airbase considered the same as camping a spawn? If so then I am guilty. I kinda like to spawn to an airbase, kill the ack on the takeoff end and park a panzer near the refuel point and watch the mayhem begin. It is fun to see 10 guys upping  (after being tooled on engine start up a few times) to kill a tank especially if I've had time to zap the ord and VH before they get "wise" to whats happening. This usually works better at a small base. And usually gets a better (more frenzied) reaction from the rooks. The kinghts seem to ignore the camped runway after figuring out whats going on, and up buffs from the next base and send me to the tower with surprizing regularity.

Is there anyting wrong with getting 5-10 guys off the front line to hunt me down, leaving my squaddies with fewer "bad" guys to deal with?
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Lusche on December 10, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
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Originally posted by MajIssue
We bishops Never:rolleyes: camp a spawn... do we? :lol


Bish would like to, but they can't find the spawn :p
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: TwentyFo on December 10, 2007, 11:20:55 AM
DR7....is the best and most respected spawn camper/Gver.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 10, 2007, 11:49:59 AM
My opinion? Which dont mean much I admit. I'd say "no". Any GV coming out of a Vh is a legitimate target and not spawn camping. First off the one killing you had to motor some ways to get to the point to where they can lay on a VH. Its the responsibility of the opposing team to watch for advancing GVs and deal with them. Plus theres the fact that everyone knows where a VH is at where'as only seasoned players, "or those that change sides to spy", know where spawn points are.

                         I got clobbered coming out of a VH a few times in a row yesterday by a GV and I had no problem with that. Anyone that can maneuver that close deserves it.

                       You have to spawn somewheres right? And the game controls that. To me it aint the same as spawn camping and is legitimate play.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Scca on December 10, 2007, 11:58:03 AM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
[snip]Plus theres the fact that everyone knows where a VH is at where'as only seasoned players, "or those that change sides to spy", know where spawn points are.[snip]

Can you clearify?  The clipboard map shows you where the spawn points are..
Title: Re: Re: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: VonMessa on December 10, 2007, 12:04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Bombs.



Lots of them!   :aok
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: hubsonfire on December 10, 2007, 12:05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
where'as only seasoned players, "or those that change sides to spy", know where spawn points are.
 


Open map, right click, select "vehicle spawns". :rolleyes:
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: BaldEagl on December 10, 2007, 12:06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
only seasoned players, "or those that change sides to spy", know where spawn points are.


All you have to do is right click your map and select "vehicle spawns".  It shows you the precise locations of the spawn points around the map (or should I say the precise locations of the "random spawn areas").

[EDIT]  Wow... everyone beat me to it.
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: Rich46yo on December 10, 2007, 12:19:27 PM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
All you have to do is right click your map and select "vehicle spawns".  It shows you the precise locations of the spawn points around the map (or should I say the precise locations of the "random spawn areas").

[EDIT]  Wow... everyone beat me to it.


                         Yeah you right. I posted in haste. For a minute there I thought you could only see your own teams spawn points. Wow, now I think spawn campers suck even more.:D
Title: Memorable Spawn Campers
Post by: MajIssue on December 10, 2007, 02:01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Bish would like to, but they can't find the spawn :p


Lusche...
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl