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Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: stickpig on December 09, 2007, 08:29:48 AM
How is determined?

Thanks
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: SlapShot on December 09, 2007, 08:39:12 AM
The "HELP" page is a wonderfull thing ... try it sometime.

Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: BaldEagl on December 09, 2007, 09:51:53 AM
Note that vehicle kills while in fighter mode, kills in ground or ship guns, kills while in a chute (or as a man) and kills while in a bomber do not count toward rank/score and are not included in K/D.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: Squire on December 09, 2007, 10:27:01 AM
"Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)"

...Geez, just count on your fingers.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: sunfan1121 on December 10, 2007, 12:45:24 PM
stupidest question of the day
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: The Fugitive on December 10, 2007, 12:59:22 PM
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Originally posted by sunfan1121
stupidest question of the day


Stupidest response of the day.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: yankedudel on December 10, 2007, 01:12:19 PM
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Stupidest response of the day.

+1:furious
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: sunfan1121 on December 11, 2007, 02:34:43 AM
Im sorry but how do you not know not to figure this out you take the number of kills over deaths.... hence a ratio
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: Masherbrum on December 11, 2007, 04:11:38 AM
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Stupidest response of the day.
x2
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: Whisky58 on December 11, 2007, 04:27:09 AM
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Originally posted by sunfan1121
Im sorry but how do you not know not to figure this out you take the number of kills over deaths.... hence a ratio


Sunfan, if you look carefully at Slapshot, BaldEagl & Squire's replies, you'll notice it's a bit more complicated than just that - & hence perhaps not such a stupid question.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: storch on December 11, 2007, 06:57:22 AM
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Originally posted by Whisky58
Sunfan, if you look carefully at Slapshot, BaldEagl & Squire's replies, you'll notice it's a bit more complicated than just that - & hence perhaps not such a stupid question.
indeed
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: SlapShot on December 11, 2007, 07:37:01 AM
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Originally posted by Whisky58
Sunfan, if you look carefully at Slapshot, BaldEagl & Squire's replies, you'll notice it's a bit more complicated than just that - & hence perhaps not such a stupid question.


My point was ... it's in the HELP section. Everything is explained there.

No it's not a stupid question ... it's a lazy question.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: A8TOOL on December 12, 2007, 02:04:34 AM
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Originally posted by SlapShot
The "HELP" page is a wonderfull thing ... try it sometime.

Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)


yep thats what is says....whats with the +1 tho?

K/D ratio of 1.99 +1 = 2.99?  Never did understand that +1
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 12, 2007, 02:32:33 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
yep thats what is says....whats with the +1 tho?

K/D ratio of 1.99 +1 = 2.99?  Never did understand that +1


It's not +1 to your K/D.  It's only +1 to your deaths.

You cannot divide by zero, therefore you need the +1.

Where does zero come from you ask?  No deaths.



wrngway
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: Donzo on December 12, 2007, 10:33:08 AM
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
yep thats what is says....whats with the +1 tho?

K/D ratio of 1.99 +1 = 2.99?  Never did understand that +1



It's not adding 1 to the result.  It's adding 1 to the denominator in the equation.  And as AWwrgwy pointed out, you cannot divide by zero so adding 1 to the denominator is necessary.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: BaldEagl on December 12, 2007, 11:44:59 AM
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Originally posted by Donzo
And as AWwrgwy pointed out, you cannot divide by zero so adding 1 to the denominator is necessary.


It's only nessasary as long as there are no deaths.  Once a death is recorded it is no longer nessesary to add one to the denominator.  A simple IF statement could fix this (IF deaths =0, report kills otherwise report kills/deaths).
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: RAS on December 12, 2007, 07:09:53 PM
I think your on to something there BaldEagle.  They could get rid of the +1 once your score includes one of the other criteria (i.e.- death, bailed, disco, etc.).  It would then make the K/D a bit more accurate ?

RASCAL
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: SPKmes on December 12, 2007, 07:18:55 PM
wow ....... and I'm still just learning to aim. The pressure:huh
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 12, 2007, 08:56:51 PM
I have been following this thread....so I started looking at my K/D in the AvsA.

I was killing along at KD of 27 + 1   with no deaths.......next flight I got tagged and it went from KD of 27 + 1  to 13.5............

so out of like 6 or 7 flights I died once and immediately went from a 27 KD to a 13.5 KD over 1 death....    so that 1 death is worth 50% I take it?

I flew some more and now out of 38 kills I have a KD of 19 in 10 flights, but I only got shotdown 1 time.....so yep....looks like that 1 kill on me is worth 50% of my KD......out of 10 flights...instead of being worth 10% of my KD out of 10 flights......
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: E25280 on December 12, 2007, 09:29:21 PM
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
I have been following this thread....so I started looking at my K/D in the AvsA.

I was killing along at KD of 27 + 1   with no deaths.......next flight I got tagged and it went from KD of 27 + 1  to 13.5............

so out of like 6 or 7 flights I died once and immediately went from a 27 KD to a 13.5 KD over 1 death....    so that 1 death is worth 50% I take it?

I flew some more and now out of 38 kills I have a KD of 19 in 10 flights, but I only got shotdown 1 time.....so yep....looks like that 1 kill on me is worth 50% of my KD......out of 10 flights...instead of being worth 10% of my KD out of 10 flights......
Braggart. ;)


When using normalish MA-type numbers, the +1 becomes insignificant.

Example:
300 kills vs. 200 deaths = 1.50 K/D ratio
300 kills vs. 201 deaths = 1.492537 K/D ratio
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: hubsonfire on December 12, 2007, 11:32:39 PM
Yes, TC, those who most fanatically protect their cartoon life, stand to lose the most. The emphasis is on killing, not surviving.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: BaldEagl on December 13, 2007, 01:00:28 AM
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
I have been following this thread....so I started looking at my K/D in the AvsA.

I was killing along at KD of 27 + 1   with no deaths.......next flight I got tagged and it went from KD of 27 + 1  to 13.5............

so out of like 6 or 7 flights I died once and immediately went from a 27 KD to a 13.5 KD over 1 death....    so that 1 death is worth 50% I take it?

I flew some more and now out of 38 kills I have a KD of 19 in 10 flights, but I only got shotdown 1 time.....so yep....looks like that 1 kill on me is worth 50% of my KD......out of 10 flights...instead of being worth 10% of my KD out of 10 flights......


Each death is worth the it's reciprical +1 against your K/(D+1).

With no deaths you are 1:1.  The first death reduces K/(D+1) by 1/2.  Then the next by 1/3 and the next by 1/4, etc.  After many deaths it's relatively meaningless but the impact is huge with the first few deaths.

At a 27 K/D ratio with no deaths you will now have to get to 54 kills without an additional death to get back to where you were.
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 13, 2007, 06:37:49 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Each death is worth the it's reciprical +1 against your K/(D+1).

With no deaths you are 1:1.  The first death reduces K/(D+1) by 1/2.  Then the next by 1/3 and the next by 1/4, etc.  After many deaths it's relatively meaningless but the impact is huge with the first few deaths.

At a 27 K/D ratio with no deaths you will now have to get to 54 kills without an additional death to get back to where you were.


yes, 1st thought that popped in my head after seeing the results was grade school teacher telling us, well if you score a "100" on this test, then score a "0" for not doing that homework assignment, you are averaged at 50.......and thinking, as you pointed out Baldeagl,  how hard it was to get back to an "A" average.......


I don't no what the Baggart comment is for guess u just ribbing me.......and yes hub I completely agree .... I don't think I was flying any of these flights to actually protect anything except getting shotdown, I landed cause I was out of fuel or out of ammo....... I was flying in multiple Con environment and some fights was 2 & 3  vs 1....... I did pay extra attention to my SA ( surroundings & E ) though....and sometimes I had a wingman ( sqd wingy   DmdJJ )

to get back to the 27 /1 KD I need 54 kills......is what your saying right? and to get to 54 then I would need 108 kills with no deaths....

ok, enough of that......now is time to just go have fun :D
Title: K/D Ratio
Post by: ColKLink on December 13, 2007, 07:26:47 AM
has something to do with math,....these computer thingys, ya know.