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Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: G0ALY on December 11, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
An interesing combination. A wireless taser fired form a 12 gauge shotgun.
http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/XREP.aspx
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Halo on December 11, 2007, 10:04:03 PM
Geez, nowadays you just don't know whatcher gonna get shot with!  :confused:
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Dago on December 11, 2007, 10:17:24 PM
Make it out of solid lead and I am all for it.  :D
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: SIG220 on December 12, 2007, 02:16:27 AM
Man, that looks like a Gigantic Bubble Bee coming at ya!!

And just look at the size of that Stinger!!

This product may discourage people from rioting and looting.

SIG 220

(http://www.taser.com/SiteCollectionImages/Product/LE%20Product%20Banner/xrep_banner05.jpg)
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: rpm on December 12, 2007, 02:32:07 AM
If they are within 12Ga range, WTF do you want a tazer for?:huh
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Keiler on December 12, 2007, 06:38:27 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
If they are within 12Ga range, WTF do you want a tazer for?:huh


Get the badguy alive, perhaps?  :)

Matt
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: rpm on December 12, 2007, 07:11:21 PM
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Originally posted by Keiler
Get the badguy alive, perhaps?  :)

Matt
WTF do you want him alive for?
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: AWMac on December 12, 2007, 07:12:36 PM
MossBerg
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Gunslinger on December 12, 2007, 11:11:50 PM
take your pick......that or rock salt! lol
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: texasmom on December 12, 2007, 11:13:22 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
take your pick......that or rock salt! lol
 
Oww. Rock salt. I bet that smarts.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Thrawn on December 12, 2007, 11:17:09 PM
I don't get it.  

Why would you need to tazer someone at range?  If they are at range they aren't a threat to you.  If they have a firearm, you want to shoot them with lead anyway.  If they are at range with a hostage you want to shoot them with lead anyway.

The potential for abuse of this weapons seems crazy.


In related news....


"RCMP must curb Taser use, watchdog says
Last Updated: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 | 12:07 PM ET
CBC News

The RCMP's watchdog is calling for the force to restrict its use of stun guns, saying the weapons are increasingly employed to subdue those who are resistant rather than those who pose a threat."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/12/12/rcmp-watchdog.html
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: WMLute on December 13, 2007, 01:48:56 AM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Oww. Rock salt. I bet that smarts.


I was shot in the backside/upper back leg w/ rock salt once.  (cut thru the yard of an elderly chap)  I was prob. 12yrs old ish.

I ran home and jumped in the bath and let it all dissolve.  (not fun)

That was absolutely horrible.

I strongly encourage you NOT to get shot by by rock salt.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Jackal1 on December 13, 2007, 03:42:44 AM
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Originally posted by WMLute
I strongly encourage you NOT to get shot by by rock salt.


I strongly encourage you not to get shot with lead.
Rock salt will seem like a holiday perk.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: SIG220 on December 13, 2007, 06:05:09 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
WTF do you want him alive for?


So that justice may be served.


SIG 220
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: SIG220 on December 13, 2007, 06:12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
I don't get it.  

Why would you need to tazer someone at range?  If they are at range they aren't a threat to you.  If they have a firearm, you want to shoot them with lead anyway.  If they are at range with a hostage you want to shoot them with lead anyway.

The potential for abuse of this weapons seems crazy.



Like most things, Tasers can be put to good use, or bad use.  What if people were rioting, and starting fires??  Smashing windows, or over-turning cars mabye?

Do you want to instead shoot and kill them?

I have owned my personal Taser for two full days now, and have yet to Taser anyone.

Tasers have reduced injuries to both officers and suspects in police departments that have adopted them.

Would you rather have someone tasered, or beaten senseless with batons?  Which do you think has the greater risk to the suspect??

SIG 220
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Maverick on December 13, 2007, 10:35:27 AM
Thrawn,

Using a taser with some range on it, and no wires to boot means that a suspect armed with a club, sword, knife, or other weapon can be taken down with less than lethal force without having to enter the weapon range of the suspect. It also allows Police to approach and use it in an area that is unfriendly to wires.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Halo on December 13, 2007, 02:27:19 PM
(quote)  
I have owned my personal Taser for two full days now, and have yet to Taser anyone.
(unquote)


Whew, way to go, Sig, such restraint is admirable.  :)

Actually, tasers and rock salt are anything but a joke.  Serious issue to unload any such device on anyone.  Could elicit serious retribution.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Jackal1 on December 13, 2007, 06:16:58 PM
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Originally posted by SIG220
 What if people were rioting, and starting fires??  Smashing windows, or over-turning cars mabye?

Do you want to instead shoot and kill them?


That would be a great start.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: EagleDNY on December 13, 2007, 06:39:01 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Thrawn,

Using a taser with some range on it, and no wires to boot means that a suspect armed with a club, sword, knife, or other weapon can be taken down with less than lethal force without having to enter the weapon range of the suspect. It also allows Police to approach and use it in an area that is unfriendly to wires.


Anyone stupid or crazy enough to try to come at someone holding a 12 guage with a club, sword, knife, or other weapon probably should be the recipient of lethal force.  However, I suppose you could just aim low....
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Ghosth on December 15, 2007, 06:40:20 AM
Non lethal force.

Don't wound them (because they WILL sue you.)
Don't Kill them, (Their family WILL sue you)

Just hit em with the taser shell at 30 yards, walk over and PUT THE CUFFS ON.
Now all it needs is guncam footage so you can SEE what he was doing.

Makes perfect sense to me.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Benny Moore on December 15, 2007, 08:50:26 AM
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Originally posted by SIG220
So that justice may be served.


Justice?  You mean throwing a rapist in prison for two months and then letting him back out to see if he rapes another little girl?  Or perhaps locking up for two years a pair of men who murdered a mother in front of her children?

Or, on the flip side, giving that same two-year sentence to a mother of three children who throws a plastic cup of ice water at someone?  Yes, by all means, let justice be served.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Thrawn on December 15, 2007, 10:59:04 AM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Thrawn,

Using a taser with some range on it, and no wires to boot means that a suspect armed with a club, sword, knife, or other weapon can be taken down with less than lethal force without having to enter the weapon range of the suspect. It also allows Police to approach and use it in an area that is unfriendly to wires.



All good points.  Thanks Maverick.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: Maverick on December 15, 2007, 11:56:23 AM
Oh crap, the end of the world is here. Thrawn agreed with something I said.
:O :O :O :O :O :noid :noid :noid
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: BiGBMAW on December 15, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
So.. it will only penetrate soem guy with a thin cotton shirt..great product..I guess it will only be used in tropical climates...
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: texasmom on December 15, 2007, 03:58:04 PM
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Originally posted by WMLute
I was shot in the backside/upper back leg w/ rock salt once.  (cut thru the yard of an elderly chap)  I was prob. 12yrs old ish.
I ran home and jumped in the bath and let it all dissolve.  (not fun)
That was absolutely horrible.
I strongly encourage you NOT to get shot by by rock salt.

LOL~ wow!
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: FX1 on December 15, 2007, 08:59:39 PM
Good old cops... Most are great guys some are just into it for power trip..

http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=196503

Make sure to watch the video.
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2007, 09:03:15 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
WTF do you want him alive for?


Enhanced interrogation.

:cool: ,
Wab
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2007, 09:05:19 AM
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Originally posted by SIG220
I have owned my personal Taser for two full days now, and have yet to Taser anyone.


Awwwh, but you know you're just dying to.

Don't you have a brother-in-law you can feed beer and then double-dog-dare?

:lol ,
Wab
Title: 12-gauge taser
Post by: AKIron on December 16, 2007, 09:22:41 AM
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Originally posted by FX1
Good old cops... Most are great guys some are just into it for power trip..

http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=196503

Make sure to watch the video.


The cop was out of line on that one. Judging from the video prefaced with the talk by his superior his career there is over and perhaps he should find another line of work.