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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MajIssue on December 12, 2007, 10:08:55 AM
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I've always flown with the Bishops, and have seen and participated in the "hoard" that is so lamented and dispised (on this forum), although personally I like squad sized operations. Lately though that has changed... It has been a such long time since I've had to deal with ENY that I am getting spoiled by having the entire planeset available ALL the time.
My instincts are to attack and keep the initative, but it has been hard to keep any kind of momentum going when outnumbered 3-2 on such a regular basis.
I deal with being outnumbered as it presents itself, but can anyone think of a better way to keep the sides more balanced than the ENY system we currently enjoy? Increase the ENY for the biggest side? Prevent the largest side from having new players logging on until more equity is present?
Also is this condition (fighting short handed) cyclical with all of the countries? Does every "dog" indeed have it's day in the AH2 world?
It was so bad last night at 10 PM Pacific time [112-96-68] (Titanic Tuesday) that I suggested (jokingly) that all of us Bish switch countries in mass... (like that would ever happen)
Down range is no longer clear... Firers, pull back the charging handle on your .50 cals and watch your lane!
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MajBoring :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SkyRock
MajBoring :rolleyes:
Thanks for the insight
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Originally posted by MajIssue
can anyone think of a better way to keep the sides more balanced than the ENY
Also is this condition (fighting short handed) cyclical with all of the countries? Does every "dog" indeed have it's day in the AH2 world?
No and yes.
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I deal with being outnumbered as it presents itself, but can anyone think of a better way to keep the sides more balanced than the ENY system we currently enjoy? Increase the ENY for the biggest side? Prevent the largest side from having new players logging on until more equity is present?
hmmmmm lets see... ENY has been around only for a few years, I'm sure HTC never even bothered to think about how it would work or anything and just threw it into the game. I suppose that there might be different ways of helping to keep the side balance in check, and maybe a "search" might bring one or two up.
Basically its much like the "collision" issue. With the way things are, and people play (thinking switching side is cheating, or spying) its as good as its going to get. Each team gets hit by it at one time or another ( if you switch teams now and then you can see it for your self) you just deal with it as you can.
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Originally posted by MajIssue
Also is this condition (fighting short handed) cyclical with all of the countries? Does every "dog" indeed have it's day in the AH2 world?
Yes. Completely normal.
BTW MajIssue, I ran into a Bish 27 ENY in one of the arenas last week. I logged out and went to the arena we were outnumbered in, the point being if there is ENY to deal with you're in the wrong arena... they don't NEED more help.
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I cant even make sense out of this post? Is he mad cause ENY was too high for him? ....or is he mad at having too many enemy to fight?
If ENY is high....you have the advantage in numbers....so shut up
If the enemy has number advantage you have no ENY issues ...that means "Target rich" environment ....something I like alot!
....what the hell are you talking about ?
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
hmmmmm lets see... ENY has been around only for a few years, I'm sure HTC never even bothered to think about how it would work or anything and just threw it into the game. I suppose that there might be different ways of helping to keep the side balance in check, and maybe a "search" might bring one or two up.
This thread (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126649) (21 pages ;)) can be considered the birth of ENY.
Many possible options were discussed before finally settling down with the solution we currently have.
One year ago, shortly after the arena split, there were some discussions & eventually tests of different methods of balancing again. Didn't work out.
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I flew against the Bishops all night long, mainly 31st because of the hording. I actually didn't mind it because once the horde ran out of steam the bish were losing bases faster then they were taking them. Mind I dont mind the horde, Its just when 2 entire countries on one that has smaller numbers that gets annoying.
Then again im preaching, kk thx bye.
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Originally posted by Helm
I cant even make sense out of this post? Is he mad cause ENY was too high for him? ....or is he mad at having too many enemy to fight?
If ENY is high....you have the advantage in numbers....so shut up
If the enemy has number advantage you have no ENY issues ...that means "Target rich" environment ....something I like alot!
....what the hell are you talking about ?
Eny to high? stop flying La7's and Spit 16s and learn to fly a real plane.
too many enemies to fight? Learn better SA.
Advantage in numbers? So boom and zoom and run like everyone else.
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Originally posted by Adonai
Eny to high? stop flying La7's and Spit 16s and learn to fly a real plane.
They are all cartoon planes. No real planes in AH2 at all.
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Originally posted by Lusche
They are all cartoon planes. No real planes in AH2 at all.
They are real!! So is Santa!!
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Originally posted by Adonai
too many enemies to fight? Learn better SA.
I don't care how good your SA is, when you get ganged you're hosed.
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So if you can't be part of the bigger hoarde it's no longer fun for you? Wow go figure..
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Our Squad policy is to try and goto the country with the least amount of players on average per month. This is the main reason we have never really been Bish.
Seems some of the better Bish squads came Knights at the same time we did. Knights have been battered for well over the last year or so by BOTH sides.
Bish have been outnumbered when I have been about recently. (Good they deserve to be pillaged for all their worth the scumbags) oh did i say that out loud :p
May be heading their way if I could convince myself and the rest of my squad to do so. Only ever done 1 full tour there.
Bruv
~S~
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You hate ENY?
Learn to fly the JUG. I rarely have to change my ride unless I want to fly my second the F6F or FM2. I hate ENY but it aint going to go away. I hate the thought of being not aloud to log on due to ENY. I pay the fee to fly, whether it is in a JUG or a P40....Wow I said I would fly the P40. Mark it down men, the JUGMAN has gone looney.
JUGMAN
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Never had ENY interfere with flying a Yak.
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Ya, never once couldn't up my A-8.
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i dont mind if they have a high eny due to the hordes means my 262 is cheaper :) i dont have a problem with eny i can fly a 109K4 to a 190A8 to a A6M to a YAK so it dont make me none bring on the eny.
plus i thought flight was supposed to be ended if one country reaches 25ENY. i thought thats what i read somewhere
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Yes. Completely normal.
BTW MajIssue, I ran into a Bish 27 ENY in one of the arenas last week. I logged out and went to the arena we were outnumbered in, the point being if there is ENY to deal with you're in the wrong arena... they don't NEED more help.
Thanks Baldeagle... It's good to know that what I was seeing the last few days WAS NOT a trend, but part of the normal cyclical nature of the game...
I know I'm paronoid, but am I paronoid enough
:aok
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Originally posted by P47Gra
You hate ENY?
Learn to fly the JUG. I rarely have to change my ride unless I want to fly my second the F6F or FM2. I hate ENY but it aint going to go away. I hate the thought of being not aloud to log on due to ENY. I pay the fee to fly, whether it is in a JUG or a P40....Wow I said I would fly the P40. Mark it down men, the JUGMAN has gone looney.
JUGMAN
Sorry you missed my point Jugman, Let me clarify: I don't mind ENY... I don't like a huge mismatch in numbers. Do you like to get gangbanged every time you up? I don't either. Usually I'll log on to wherever my squaddies are regardless on the ENY, and do what I can to help.
:aok
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Originally posted by Bruv119
Our Squad policy is to try and goto the country with the least amount of players on average per month. This is the main reason we have never really been Bish.
Seems some of the better Bish squads came Knights at the same time we did. Knights have been battered for well over the last year or so by BOTH sides.
Bish have been outnumbered when I have been about recently. (Good they deserve to be pillaged for all their worth the scumbags) oh did i say that out loud :p
May be heading their way if I could convince myself and the rest of my squad to do so. Only ever done 1 full tour there.
Bruv
~S~
That's a scream Bruv!!!! for what it's worth you guys are always welcome over here. There are good and bad outfits here (just like the knights and rooks), and I'm sure our squad would have fun flying WITH you instead of trying to tool you!!!:lol
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Originally posted by Helm
I cant even make sense out of this post? Is he mad cause ENY was too high for him? ....or is he mad at having too many enemy to fight?
If ENY is high....you have the advantage in numbers....so shut up
If the enemy has number advantage you have no ENY issues ...that means "Target rich" environment ....something I like alot!
....what the hell are you talking about ?
being gangbanged and vulched is NOT fun... If you disagree then I question your sincerity. ENY is not a problem because I usually fly FW's and buffs, plus it is just part of the game. I'm not asking about a small numbers disparity but one where it is difficult to get off the gound... Point in case was late last night!
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Originally posted by MajIssue
being gangbanged and vulched is NOT fun... If you disagree then I question your sincerity. ENY is not a problem because I usually fly FW's and buffs, plus it is just part of the game. I'm not asking about a small numbers disparity but one where it is difficult to get off the gound... Point in case was late last night!
When ENY was created, it was the Knights that had a huge number advantage.
Yes it is cyclical. It tends to shift every six months ish.
Being (mostly) a knit, this past year I have learned how to "deal with the hoard" and actually, it's quite ezy.
Pork.
3-5 players can up and pork the front line bases of the hoard in 20min and stop it cold. No troops, no ord, no hoard (hey, that kinda rhymes!)
Another tip is to overfly the hoard, and hunt at the field they are upping from. 2-3 players, if they are smart, can tie up 10+ players and keep them from getting alt, allowing the field being attacked to get some planes in the air and w/ some alt. Hoards otd are much easier to deal with.
Fighting the hoard can be fun! Hunt the fringes, pick your fights, and you can clean up! Some of my fav. fights have been 4-6 of us knits defending against 2-3 times our numbers and holding them off for hours.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I don't care how good your SA is, when you get ganged you're hosed.
Speak for yourself :aok
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Originally posted by MajIssue
I've always flown with the Bishops, and have seen and participated in the "hoard" that is so lamented and dispised (on this forum), although personally I like squad sized operations. Lately though that has changed... It has been a such long time since I've had to deal with ENY that I am getting spoiled by having the entire planeset available ALL the time.
My instincts are to attack and keep the initative, but it has been hard to keep any kind of momentum going when outnumbered 3-2 on such a regular basis.
I deal with being outnumbered as it presents itself, but can anyone think of a better way to keep the sides more balanced than the ENY system we currently enjoy? Increase the ENY for the biggest side? Prevent the largest side from having new players logging on until more equity is present?
Also is this condition (fighting short handed) cyclical with all of the countries? Does every "dog" indeed have it's day in the AH2 world?
It was so bad last night at 10 PM Pacific time [112-96-68] (Titanic Tuesday) that I suggested (jokingly) that all of us Bish switch countries in mass... (like that would ever happen)
Down range is no longer clear... Firers, pull back the charging handle on your .50 cals and watch your lane!
bishland is the best country of AH to live in, always fun to watch the noissy squeekers escorting CVs in PTboats like lazzy hippos, resuping enemy bases ,also sending join msgs untill my La7 looks like a crowded schoolbus, driving panzers 2 sectors without spawn, defending HQ in M8s
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i still think it would be good if ENY was so bad country A would be locked out of the arena, and have to either fly for other country or other arena.
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Originally posted by Adonai
Eny to high? stop flying La7's and Spit 16s and learn to fly a real plane.
Was gonna say the same thing! :rofl
Besides, I like flying both with and against the BoP's. Some fun fights ensue between the AK's and them!
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Originally posted by Adonai
Eny to high? stop flying La7's and Spit 16s and learn to fly a real plane.
(http://www.warbirds.co.nz/images/xvi-xiv.jpg)
Looks like a real plane to me
ack-ack
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Originally posted by kilz
plus i thought flight was supposed to be ended if one country reaches 25ENY. i thought thats what i read somewhere
I think it says flight is disabled at an ENY of 29, but I don't believe it actually is. I've seen ENY exceed 30, with planes still available.
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Originally posted by Adonai
Eny to high? stop flying La7's and Spit 16s and learn to fly a real plane.
too many enemies to fight? Learn better SA.
Advantage in numbers? So boom and zoom and run like everyone else.
If this is directed towards Helm, you are misconstruing his words.
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Originally posted by P47Gra
You hate ENY?
Learn to fly the JUG. I rarely have to change my ride unless I want to fly my second the F6F or FM2. I hate ENY but it aint going to go away. I hate the thought of being not aloud to log on due to ENY. I pay the fee to fly, whether it is in a JUG or a P40....Wow I said I would fly the P40. Mark it down men, the JUGMAN has gone looney.
JUGMAN
Not if ya wanna fly the "N"---eny is same as Lghey, ord is same as D40--last camp (begs the question WHY?---numbers bely it being 'uber'):
P-47N has 4154 Kills of All,
P-47N has 5129 Deaths by All
(P-47-D40 has 6575 Kills of All
P-47-D40 has 6941 Deaths by All)