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Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: BaldEagl on December 12, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
Has anyone ever taken down a plane using air to ground rockets?  Just wondering.

I attacked a set of B-24's last night in my F6F while carrying 2 1000 lb eggs and full rocket rails.  I got all 3 with my .50's (I got to land 6 kills that sortie :) )  but was wondering if I might have been able to get them with the rockets.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Stampf on December 12, 2007, 01:53:35 PM
Yes, have scored both bombers and a fighter with the Air to Ground rockets of the FW190F-8.  The bombers were accidental, went to fire cannons and rockets launched, so I closed in and fired them again.  Blamo!

Once bagged a P-38 the same way as well.

Not recommended.

EDIT: Can't recall which Fighter type I got that way now...
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: waystin2 on December 12, 2007, 02:15:24 PM
Yes.  A lone B-17.  Got real close(400 to 600) in the HellKitty and unleashed all 6 at once.  My .50's were dry.  Oh well, I got the nice explosion anyway!  LOL
Title: Re: Air to ground rockets
Post by: MajIssue on December 12, 2007, 02:28:06 PM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Has anyone ever taken down a plane using air to ground rockets?  Just wondering.

I attacked a set of B-24's last night in my F6F while carrying 2 1000 lb eggs and full rocket rails.  I got all 3 with my .50's (I got to land 6 kills that sortie :) )  but was wondering if I might have been able to get them with the rockets.


Yes Baldeagle... in a heavy 38, salvo'd 4 at a time, compensated for the drop and got lucky and killed all 3 '24s:aok
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Major Biggles on December 12, 2007, 02:53:11 PM
yes it's very possible. the p38j does it really well, you can hit buffs from 1000 yrds, and usually get 2 or 3 with one well placed rocket.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: USRanger on December 12, 2007, 02:59:49 PM
I've tried a few times but missed.  I HAVE successfully vulched w/ rockets on a few occasions though.  The best is when they are about 10 feet off the ground.  Better explosion!:D
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Krusty on December 12, 2007, 03:26:29 PM
If you fan 'em out it's best, from what I hear. You only need to hit with 1, and the blast will kill all 3.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Solar10 on December 12, 2007, 03:29:02 PM
I took out a flight of Lancs about to drop on a GV base with a front qrt volley of rockets from a Mossie.

2 Blew up and the third lost a wing tip.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: moot on December 12, 2007, 03:37:57 PM
Does a plane's explosion have splash damage tied to it, like bombs and HE shells do?  I don't know how "soft" that detonation would be...
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Krusty on December 12, 2007, 03:48:14 PM
I don't know if the plane itself has splash, or if it just triggers the splash of the bombs/rockets, but there is some splash damage going on, that much I know.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Overlag on December 12, 2007, 04:51:50 PM
my fave trick on low cons over water is to fire rocket infront of the con, the water splash kills them.... ;)

(not sure if it counts as a "kill" though, may only count as a proxy!)
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: hubsonfire on December 12, 2007, 05:51:12 PM
I once tried to bounce a formation of Ju-88s, salvoing all of my rockets off at once, killing a drone. Wolfala's pretty good at this trick, but I've never been able to repeat it.

I don't think planes exploding have any splash damage, only the rockets.

Now, rocket vulching- that's fun. Close is often close enough. :)
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Krusty on December 12, 2007, 05:59:28 PM
I popped 2 lancs with a single WGr 21 once, does that count?

I giggled like a school girl, but...er... that's beside the point.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Sketch on December 12, 2007, 06:50:20 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
If you fan 'em out it's best, from what I hear. You only need to hit with 1, and the blast will kill all 3.

The air-to-air ones on the 110 work good for bomber formations.  Have got all 3 with one rocket right in the middle from a low 6 shot.  Took the tail off the center and the wingtips off the drones.  Air-to-ground work as well and if you do fan them out your right, you can get a couple.
Title: Rockets, rockets everywhere
Post by: moot on December 12, 2007, 07:42:45 PM
I really want to spill the beans and have bragging rights for the biggest cheating bastard secret as pertains to formation killing power... but it would just be an ephemeral pleasure. Soon enough everyone would use it and I'd rather have that all for myself :D
Title: Re: Rockets, rockets everywhere
Post by: hubsonfire on December 12, 2007, 09:01:52 PM
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Originally posted by moot
I really want to spill the beans and have bragging rights for the biggest cheating bastard secret as pertains to formation killing power... but it would just be an ephemeral pleasure. Soon enough everyone would use it and I'd rather have that all for myself :D


Tease!
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: mussie on December 13, 2007, 04:57:02 AM
Someone Posted a movie where they nailed a flight of Lanc with the 50kg eggs on the JU88.... Now that was a cool film
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: sunfan1121 on December 13, 2007, 04:57:36 AM
A LA tried to HO me in a poney.... Boom 4 rocks. to the face
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: SD67 on December 13, 2007, 05:51:59 AM
I've downed many a buff trio with rockets from my 110. One salvo of 2 usually does the job, you've just got to remember they drop pretty quick, a bit like osti rounds. I guess one may work just as well but I've usually got it at 2 to finish off VH's after the eggs have landed.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Ghosth on December 13, 2007, 06:34:45 AM
Got a P47 in a TBM once with a single fired rocket. Hit him right in the spinner, and down he went.

Closer you are the less they drop, helps to be above, aiming down.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: NHawk on December 13, 2007, 06:41:52 AM
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Originally posted by SD67
I've downed many a buff trio with rockets from my 110. One salvo of 2 usually does the job, you've just got to remember they drop pretty quick, a bit like osti rounds. I guess one may work just as well but I've usually got it at 2 to finish off VH's after the eggs have landed.
I'm surprised you do any ground damage with the rockets on a 110. The WGR21 rockets were time delayed for air to air use. They could be used as a mortar exploding above a ground target, but that was fairly rare.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: badhorse on December 13, 2007, 06:48:15 AM
I was in an F6F defending a base from a GV attack when a set of Lancs came in.  I was slightly above and behind them when I salvo'd my rockets.  Got two of the Lancs with the rockets and then the last with guns.

Pure luck though.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Latrobe on December 13, 2007, 07:22:55 AM
I don't know if I was in a F4U or a F6F, but I took off from a cv with rockets to hit the town. Before I got there though someone finished it off and we captured the base. I went to land when A C2 dove down on us and came straight for me. I was a little bored so I decided to go ahead and HO him. Forgot I still had rockets selected and shot my rockets at him and killed him! He'll think twice about going in Head-On again. :lol
Title: Re: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Nilsen on December 13, 2007, 07:37:18 AM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Has anyone ever taken down a plane using air to ground rockets?  Just wondering.


Taken down many otr. Outstanding fun to vulch with rockets. Im not a vulch fan, but LALAs and SpitNiks are fair game for all kinds of dweebery. :)

air-to-air? havent tried that
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: SkyRock on December 13, 2007, 07:42:07 AM
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Originally posted by sunfan1121
A LA tried to HO me in a poney.... Boom 4 rocks. to the face
liar.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: sunfan1121 on December 13, 2007, 09:43:51 AM
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Originally posted by SkyRock
liar.


no im not had salvo 2 first salvo was a little high the corrected with the second... i think i still have the film
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Flayed1 on December 13, 2007, 11:12:27 AM
I got a flight of low Lancs once with the rockets on my F4U-D... and thinking about bombs I remember watching Thndregg start a fight with a 190 or 109 in his Yak and the guy went to get light and the egg fell right on Eggs Yak as he passed under lol.. We had a good laugh about that one. :)
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Slash27 on December 13, 2007, 12:21:36 PM
Killed a Lanc formation with rockets in a TBM once..

I hit a Pony with a single rocket from a F6F too. I was shooting at a GV from 4-5k when he went hauling bellybutton by on the deck. Looked like a heat seeker, very cool. Too bad it was a friendly.:(
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Murdr on December 13, 2007, 12:31:03 PM
I rarely go for true AtA hits with HVARs (have scored hits on occation though), but I do commonly down planes that are close enough to the deck to be within the bast radius.  Just the other day, I had a timid pony try to run away from me on the deck, so I lobbed a rocket ahead of them, and watched the pony explode when the rocket crater appeared under them.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: bobtom on December 13, 2007, 04:03:13 PM
This is a little off topic.

One day i was in a destroyer shelling a base and an nme plane was flying toward me. I took a shot at it and all 3 shells hit it from the 8 inchers in the back.

I got a good chuckle out of that....
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Flayed1 on December 14, 2007, 07:50:16 AM
Heh that reminds me of one time on Mindano I was flying south to A4 along the coast and someone was started shelling my base.. I know this because at about 5K up I saw 2, 8" rounds fly just shy of the right of my canopy going north. :)

  Was one of thos WTF!! moments lol.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: BBBB on December 14, 2007, 02:05:15 PM
I shot myself down once with the A2G rockets. I was flying in a tight formation with a few other P-38s, Codi drifted out in front of my bird, I was screwing with my map or something, I don't really recall.

 Anyways I had my rockets selected as we were about to start our run, I was adjusting the trim of my aircraft (I have my trim control on my stick), when I fired a rocket off, I looked up in time to see it making a perfect bee line for Codi's right tail boom. It hit, blew up and kill shooter blew me out of the sky. I was pissed at myself for that one.
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Adonai on December 14, 2007, 03:56:30 PM
Forget who it was, but was in a fw190 with just rockets hunting a buff mission outa A221 (bishop base at the time) Myself and nightmove moved to intercept them.

Anyhow 2 sets of lancs on top of each other, fired off one rocket, went to low, second one i pulled up and fired, nailed 2 buffs on one shot.

was first attempt at a2a rockets and it worked out quite well since I was diving in at over 500 mph and pulled up when i fired.

I gotta say if your willing to take the drag of having the rockets its worth taking for buffs only, my success is now 1 for 2 fired at buffs with 2 kills.

I would rather have gun gondolas for FW190s then take rockets but i guess no choice :P
Title: Air to ground rockets
Post by: Krusty on December 14, 2007, 07:47:46 PM
In September I started getting really good with the WGr 21's... I'd get 1 success in 4 sorties (rough estimate).

Here's one from the DGS practice frame. Please note: Lethality is turned DOWN TO ZERO! It's as low as it can go, meaning it's about 1/1000th normal damage levels. Even so I STILL popped the bomber with one of my rockets! Pretty potent things!

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/wgr21-2.jpg)

The film file:
http://www.nakatomitower.com/files/190A8_b17wgr.zip
Note: I'm not sure I've got the kill because lethality is set to almost nothing. It takes me a minute to realize one of the bombers is missing.

The second one is in the MA. I came across a formation of B17s and ... well I was giddy with the results. I'm used to getting one, not two, so it was a very rare moment!

(http://www.nakatomitower.com/wgr21-1.jpg)

The film file:
http://www.nakatomitower.com/files/b17s_wg21s.zip
The smoke puff in the image is almost right behind the wing of that drone. It took out 2 drones, it looks like!