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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: raider73 on December 12, 2007, 07:00:30 PM
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When you were on a football team did they mean the world to you? Were they your brothers? Football is one of most team related sport just wanted to know
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Absolutely nothing. They tried and tried to recruit me but i thought they were a bunch of arrogant *******es. Football is an incredible waste of school funding. Instead of raising property taxes, reduce the $$ spent on sports. The kids might actually get an education.
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Depending on the coaching, football teaches:
Discipline of ones self and know ones limitations. It teaches a kid how to work as a team, how to succeed, how to work hard and understand that hard work can pay off, whether you're winning or losing. Good football coaches raise good citizens. Good football programs in a school can mean the difference between a kid choosing to waste his brains on drugs, or be a meaningful contribution to society as an adult.
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Never meant anything to me until I had a teenager. Every aspect of his life improved as a result of him being on that team. As for the sport... I don't give a hoot. As for my son, if football can bring him out of his shell, cause him to treat others with respect, bring all of his grades back up to A's, go to sleep on time, do his homework without having to be asked, complete his chores before being asked... then I'm all for it. :aok
*edit* oh yeah, he got to hit people, too. He really was diggin that part.
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Originally posted by clerick
Absolutely nothing. They tried and tried to recruit me but i thought they were a bunch of arrogant *******es. Football is an incredible waste of school funding. Instead of raising property taxes, reduce the $$ spent on sports. The kids might actually get an education.
Healthy mind in a healthy body, the two go hand in hand. Sports like football also tend to teach a good bunch of lessons, not the least warfare and discipline, and a good sense of fairplay.
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A junior football coach changed my sons life for the better. Actually, I think he changed alot of kids lives over his 5 year tenure in Junior football. Being a former cancer patient, he taught kids to love life, work hard in school work, sports and enjoy every moment of your life. He retired in Nov as his cancer has re-appeared again. 34 years old...damn. :(
Here's Coach Ron after winning the championship game in November this year:
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Any form of focused discipline is good for the developing mind and body... Football, karate, soccer, golf, sailing, paintball, dance, band or even, yes, computer club.
Kids should have something greater than the individual that they can be a part of, that they can contribute to and make greater. It has nothing to do with knocking heads together, it has everything to do with putting heads together.
Mastering team dynamics is part of developing a a good individual, fostering leadership and gaining an appreciation for accomplishment. Teens end up coming together one way or another. The difference is that with some sort of structure, they come together and create something, otherwise they just ****can everything and complain about how they're misunderstood and how much the world and their parents ****ing suck. Teens are never misunderstood, they're just too thick-headed to realize that their choice is either to get bogged down in their own bull****, or move forward. We've all gone through it. Nothing has changed.
The choice is easy.
Jesus Christ, did I just write that pile of sappy dog****? I can't ****ing believe it.
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Originally posted by clerick
Absolutely nothing. They tried and tried to recruit me but i thought they were a bunch of arrogant *******es. Football is an incredible waste of school funding. Instead of raising property taxes, reduce the $$ spent on sports. The kids might actually get an education.
Always got picked last, huh?
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Originally posted by FBBone
Always got picked last, huh?
Definitely not, i chose ski racing instead.
I should qualify my rant. Team sports are good for kids and even adults. HOWEVER, the degree to which many school sponsored sports have been elevated to super-academic levels is appalling. Local news spends a significant amount of time on prep-sports but not on other school activities. My senior year we had 7 pep rallies to celebrate an 0-6 football team, but never once did we have any such honor placed on the those other competitive activities that truly accomplished something. We were state champions in Gymnastics and Debate, runners-up in swimming and cross country and baseball.
I play sports to challenge myself and to have fun, but give me one rational explanation as to why prep and collegiate sports, especially football, deserve more attention then the chess club?
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While finishing my senior year of football I think the past 4 years have meant a lot to me.
Football makes everyone around one giant family. A teammate who is a division 1-A prospect lost everything in a fire. His family was forced to look for aid from friends and families. Our team did everything we could to raise money for his family and get them back on their feet. We even had neighboring towns even our rival town donate money and do charity events for him and his family. To me football, while being a violent sport, will bring out the best characters in everyone.
The coach has motivated me and many others to make sure education comes first. Doesnt matter who you are, if you dont have the grades you dont play. The head coach as well as the assistants stress how much education is and football is just something to keep you busy. This coach is working us to get into college to play but foremost make sure we get our education. I myself am getting looked at by 5-6 colleges. They all say dont go to just play football make sure you are going to get an education.
While all on top of this they also teach life morals which I will carry on for the rest of my life. There are things I have learned on the football field that I will carry on for the rest of my life as a basis of my life.
So while some people say football is just a waste, there are things that you cant get outside of it.
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Originally posted by clerick
Definitely not, i chose ski racing instead.
I should qualify my rant. Team sports are good for kids and even adults. HOWEVER, the degree to which many school sponsored sports have been elevated to super-academic levels is appalling. Local news spends a significant amount of time on prep-sports but not on other school activities. My senior year we had 7 pep rallies to celebrate an 0-6 football team, but never once did we have any such honor placed on the those other competitive activities that truly accomplished something. We were state champions in Gymnastics and Debate, runners-up in swimming and cross country and baseball.
I play sports to challenge myself and to have fun, but give me one rational explanation as to why prep and collegiate sports, especially football, deserve more attention then the chess club?
:rofl
Ski racing in Minnesota? You definately didn't do that at Wild Mountain (formerly known as Troll Hagen in the 60's and 70's) :rofl A race there would have taken 15 seconds. :)
Sounds like the bitterness pill has kicked in. Too bad you couldn't make the team.
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Awe, now don't go picking on clerick too much.
As pleased as I am with my son & his team... I did hate very much all the stupid football jocks & their bouncy little goofball cheerleaders when I was in high school.
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Playing High School football taught me to drink beer from a funnel. Playing rugby in college taught me to drink beer from a shoe :t
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Yeah my Football coaches were great coaches. They influenced me to try my hardest the Family first school 2nd and sports last. they are like 2nd dads and my football team is my family.
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Didn't play, and I didn't need it to get any of what you guys said out of life. I've had a manager kill himself 4 days before Christmas that taught me to love life, not take things for granted, and what an impact it has on people. I'm joining the Coast Guard which has put even more importance on getting through high school and passing my classes. I've never done drugs and I've never drank, and honestly if you NEED something to lift you above that rather than your own will...that's you. I've lost almost all my friends because I won't be around that environment, stupid but it's me.
I played European football as a kid.
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In all seriousness though, I think anyone who has competed in athletics understands that commitment is greater than ability. You can be a star athlete, but if you don't give it your all every down, time at bat, shooting at the free throw line etc...then whats the point...On the other hand, if your just an average guy, but give 150% every play, you're gonna suceed, and knock that D-1 prospect on his arse while his guard is down (and hopefully while his guard is up too hehe).
To me, thats something i'll take with me for the rest of my life...Underdog only means something if you let it.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
:rofl
Ski racing in Minnesota? You definately didn't do that at Wild Mountain (formerly known as Troll Hagen in the 60's and 70's) :rofl A race there would have taken 15 seconds. :)
Sounds like the bitterness pill has kicked in. Too bad you couldn't make the team.
Wild mountain is alive and well, as is Trollhaugen, two separate ski areas.
I did/do most of my racing at Buck Hill (http://buckhillskiracingteam.com/about.shtml), a short 16-19 second run most of the time but one of the most productive ski racing programs in the country.
All that is really beside the point. Your making a couple of stupid assumptions.
1) I didn't make the team.
2) That i am bitter.
I just find the amount of money the education systems spends on sports is obscene.
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Football isn't always the dominant sport at schools. When I was in prep school I played on the football team and we just missed winning the Rhode Island Class D championship. Yet attendance at our games was awful. The big thing there was sailing of all things. FREAKIN SAILING man! during the winter it was hockey and lacrosse in the spring. its not that the other sports are not important or not respected, its that the students go to what events are interesting to them.
Most teenagers would much rather watch a football game than a gymnastics event or a debate. Thats just they way they are. Schools do sometimes play favoritism in funding, but there isn't enough money to go around at public schools so the popular sports get the money.
I would never give up the experiences I got from playing sports in High School. The majority of the friends I had were from my teams. Plus sports kept my lazy rear end off the couch and out doing something. Some of my teams got so close during the season that at the end of the year you could usually see tears in the seniors eyes. My senior year hockey was like that and we were 1-17-2. Those experiences were great, and I think they will stay with me for a long time.
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Originally posted by raider73
Yeah my Football coaches were great coaches. They influenced me to try my hardest the Family first school 2nd and sports last.
Judging from your prior posts, they need to try a little harder.
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Originally posted by clerick
Wild mountain is alive and well, as is Trollhaugen, two separate ski areas.
I did/do most of my racing at Buck Hill (http://buckhillskiracingteam.com/about.shtml), a short 16-19 second run most of the time but one of the most productive ski racing programs in the country.
All that is really beside the point. Your making a couple of stupid assumptions.
1) I didn't make the team.
2) That i am bitter.
I just find the amount of money the education systems spends on sports is obscene.
Your assumptions that the amount of money spent on sports is greater than the education itself is pretty stupid, son.
First, give me a percentage of how much state or federal funds go towards football alone.
Then I will show you something called "facts and data" (heh, don't you hate those?) that show how many schools have to RAISE money via booster clubs in order to buy/update new gear for football, since it is one of the most expensive sports to play, gear-wise per capital.
Why not just be honest and tell us why you didn't make the team? Too afraid? Didn't want to make the physical committment? Too fat? Hated one of the players? Had a girlfriend stolen from you by a football jock? You shouldn't have such a bitter outlook on a sport you know nothing about just because YOU failed to make a team.
FWIW, I never played football, and I was an "individual" sport type of person, aka, Skiing, etc. (grew up in Hugo, Mn) but I was never as bitter as you are about the whole thing.
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*rowr*
Man, could y'all get any meaner than you are to one another in this thread?
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Originally posted by texasmom
*rowr*
Man, could y'all get any meaner than you are to one another in this thread?
Sounds like Clerick has an axe to grind....many of them both on this board and off. :rolleyes:
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Ripsnort good point about the fund raising. My football team raised the money to re-do the field ourselves, raised money for buses, and equipment ourselves. The only things the school paid for was the locker room and the coaches. The towns gave us our uniforms.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Your assumptions that the amount of money spent on sports is greater than the education itself is pretty stupid, son.
Never said or assumed that. Calling me "son" is not nearly as demeaning as you had hoped.
First, give me a percentage of how much state or federal funds go towards football alone.
I'm picking on football because it is by far the most grievous example. To some extent ALL prep and collegiate sports are money sieves. BTW shall we include the costs of infrastructure too? for example the 3.4 million dollar stadium the local high school built 2 years ago? Lets think for a moment, should we spend millions on a structure that sits empty and unused for 95% of the year or upgrade textbooks, computers or hire teachers? Hmmmmm...
Then I will show you something called "facts and data" (heh, don't you hate those?) that show how many schools have to RAISE money via booster clubs in order to buy/update new gear for football, since it is one of the most expensive sports to play, gear-wise per capital.
As it should be. I don't care how big or small the school is, make these young men earn it. After all, it is about building character right? To this point; when i was still in high school the football players had all of their equipment, excep for shoes, payed for. While hockey players, swimmers, skiers et.c. had to pay for everything on their own. When i last priced the equipment skiing and hockey were far more expensive just not nearly as "cool."
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Why not just be honest and tell us why you didn't make the team? Too afraid? Didn't want to make the physical committment? Too fat? Hated one of the players? Had a girlfriend stolen from you by a football jock? You shouldn't have such a bitter outlook on a sport you know nothing about just because YOU failed to make a team.
I already stated that i thought the players were "a bunch of arrogant *******es." I wanted nothing to do with them.
Physical commitment is not and has never been an issue, i probably worked harder to prepare for the ski racing season then many other athletes do.
Don't make mistake passion for bitterness. This is a soap box topic for me. I take education very seriously and it irks me to no end when something relatively trivial usurps it.
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Originally posted by clerick
Definitely not, i chose ski racing instead.
I should qualify my rant. Team sports are good for kids and even adults. HOWEVER, the degree to which many school sponsored sports have been elevated to super-academic levels is appalling. Local news spends a significant amount of time on prep-sports but not on other school activities. My senior year we had 7 pep rallies to celebrate an 0-6 football team, but never once did we have any such honor placed on the those other competitive activities that truly accomplished something. We were state champions in Gymnastics and Debate, runners-up in swimming and cross country and baseball.
I play sports to challenge myself and to have fun, but give me one rational explanation as to why prep and collegiate sports, especially football, deserve more attention then the chess club?
Clerick, just a couple of things here:
1. Football is more popular than chess, thats why you don't see "Monday Night Chess".
2. I'd like to apologize if the "bash clerick" aspect of this thread came about from my first post, I really was just poking fun at you ('cause that line was such an easy one after your post:D )
3. Regarding this comment to raider:
Originally posted by clerick
Judging from your prior posts, they need to try a little harder.
:lol :aok
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It taught me to recheck my thread titles before posting them?
Mac
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Originally posted by FBBone
Clerick, just a couple of things here:
1. Football is more popular than chess, thats why you don't see "Monday Night Chess".
2. I'd like to apologize if the "bash clerick" aspect of this thread came about from my first post, I really was just poking fun at you ('cause that line was such an easy one after your post:D )
3. Regarding this comment to raider:
:lol :aok
No worries.
I understand that chess isn't as popular, but the point is valid. As you can see, taking a shot at our beloved game of football brings down all sorts or knee-jerk stupidity. I'm not questioning the game, i am questioning its importance. I could take this a step further and question the fanatical devotion to sports in general. I enjoy watching and playing sports but when people elevate it to a near religious level i think that it has gotten out of hand.
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I think clerick ether was mentally abused by football players as a kid or physically abused. Or he just didn't have what it took to be football player and quit in middle of season he played. Was the reason because you were 3rd string
bench warmer??:O Is you played clerick you would see its not a waste of money. You gain pride, respect, honor. The coaches make you more discipline and you learn to work well with your football team and they become your brothers.
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What school do you play for raider? My school played a few cape teams.
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My team had 21 players. We scored 1 touchdown my senior year.
My back is still ****ed up from the game against Muenster.
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My senior year 7 of our 13 starters were suspended for four games for smokin' the wacky tabacky at a party. We were 4-6.
During pre-season I fell on a kid and his leg broke in 7 places. He was still in a cast last time I saw him in June. Football messes people up.
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Athletics in schools is a good thing and it is and should be part of the school environment.
Sports, with any coach who is worth his salt, teaches his kids much more than just sports. Life lessons are learned in well structured sporting programs.
It is however unfortunate that you cannot possibly fund all of the sporting programs equally, and like it or not football is the most popular sport by far in the U.S., hence they will get the lions share of the available funding.
And even if they spend millions on a "football" stadium it is normally used for much more than that. Lacross, Soccer, Track and Field the list goes on.. So normally these are not "football only" stadiums they are available to all the teams. And normally school district facilities are made available to youth programs as well for their use (although at a cost).
To me any money invested in sporting facilities is most certainly not money wasted. Sports play a part in the learning process.
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I was always the youngest kid in my class. I was 4 when I started k/g and turned 5 a week into the school starting. Even being the youngest, I was always the biggest boy in my class (a couple girls were taller at times). At age 14 I was 6' 200lbs. (was 6' 2" 235lbs by my Soph. year) I LOVED football.
I had the priv. to learn to play football with this guy's kid.
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0704/gallery.nfl.draftclasses/images/dan-dierdorf-1.jpg)
6-time Pro Bowler
3-time NFLPA NFC Offensive Lineman of the year (1976, 1977, 1978)
5-time All-Pro (1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1980)
His son, Dan Dierdorf Jr. was an amazing talent. He could litterally play any position on the team, and was pretty close to the best at any of those positions.
Run, kick, throw, block, Dan Jr. could do it all. I had size on him, but he had this raw talent and ability that was amazing to see. He was prob. 6' 210lbs ish, and one of the meanest son of a guns i've ever met.
His 1st day at my High School as a freshman he got into a fight with one of the toughest seniors in the school. Dan Jr. smashed him into a locker, picked him up by the back of the belt and his shirt collar, and THREW him through the glass doors of the Office. (of course, nobody "saw" who did it, and the kid said he "tripped")
He ended up being a fullback (mostly) and would "rate" a game by how many players on the other side he could knock out of the game. A "good" game to him was at least 6 players on the opposing team having to be benched from him knocking the stuffing out of them. (I think his record was 12-13)
The coaches on the other teams would complain about him being allowed to play on both off. and def. Looking back, it really wasn't fair. This kid had one of the greatest lineman in the history of the game as a Dad.
(you should have seen his Dad pull up on his 1000cc BMW motorcycle and it looked like a mini-bike under him)
Me and Dan jr. were put on the Varsity team as Freshman and Dan was involved in a fumble where there was a HUGE pile up of kids. Litterally most players on both sides were in a huge pile and fighting for the ball.
When the ref's finally cleared everybody off, Dan jr. had the ball. He was on the edge of the pile with his arm snaked in holding the ball and what had to be a couple thousand pounds of kids piled on top of it.
He broke LITTERALLY every bone in his right hand, and never played ball again. (he ended up getting sent to a military school)
Towards the start of my Sophmore year I slipped while mowing the yard and put my left foot under the mower. (I am one of the reasons there is a guard now on the back of push mowers)
Thus ended my football career.
Always was a "what if" to me. Not saying I could have been a "pro" or anything, but I for sure could have played Div. 1 ball. I was a nose guard and averaged 3-4 sacs a game. By the time I was a Senior, I coulda been 260lbs easy. (I grew to 6'4")
Oh well. C'est la vie
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Originally posted by raider73
I think clerick ether was mentally abused by football players as a kid or physically abused. Or he just didn't have what it took to be football player and quit in middle of season he played. Was the reason because you were 3rd string
bench warmer??:O Is you played clerick you would see its not a waste of money. You gain pride, respect, honor. The coaches make you more discipline and you learn to work well with your football team and they become your brothers.
Wow! You really are a moron.
Why do people find it so hard to believe that a capable person would choose to NOT play football?
Holy S**T! HE must have sucked, thats it! That must be the reason. Wait! NO! He was physically abused as a child. What other reason could there be for not wanting to play football?! Its just unamerican to not want to play football.
You're an embarrassment Raider.
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Originally posted by sgt203
Athletics in schools is a good thing and it is and should be part of the school environment. Sports, with any coach who is worth his salt, teaches his kids much more than just sports. Life lessons are learned in well structured sporting programs.
I agree, but not at the expense of a proper education. See Raider73's posts as evidence.
It is however unfortunate that you cannot possibly fund all of the sporting programs equally, and like it or not football is the most popular sport by far in the U.S., hence they will get the lions share of the available funding.
Hmmmm, i wonder where baseball falls in here. Football is popular, no doubt, but regionally other sports are often far more popular. Just speaking locally, soccer has more participants than football AND baseball, but we have no soccer stadium. They don't even use the multi-million dollar atrocity for that.
And even if they spend millions on a "football" stadium it is normally used for much more than that. Lacross, Soccer, Track and Field the list goes on.. So normally these are not "football only" stadiums they are available to all the teams. And normally school district facilities are made available to youth programs as well for their use (although at a cost).
Unfortunately this isn't the case here. I live right across the street from the high school here and i can attest to the fact that it sits empty most of the year. It really is a shame too. It is a gorgeous facility, thoroughly modern and capable of being used for so many events, but it isn't. If it were used more often i would still have a hard time justifying it. Other than lights, bleachers, a well maintained field and a few basic necessities, what do kids need to play sports?
To me any money invested in sporting facilities is most certainly not money wasted. Sports play a part in the learning process.
I agree to a point, but I believe there is a line that has been crossed here. Meet the athletes' basic needs, maybe a pinch more, but i don't see the need for excess, see above.
All of my kids participate in some sport, and will continue to do so. I will do my best to keep them from being poisoned by the attitude that sports are everything. If at any point their education suffers due to participation then i will not hesitate to pull them out so they can focus on what is truly important. I don't want them to become the next Michael Vick, Latrell Sprewell, Barry Bonds, raider73 or any of the litany of players that have demonstrated how sport can be twisted by placing too much emphasis on money and fame.
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I lettered in 3 sports. Playing football taught me that I liked the other sports a lot more.
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FYI, a bunch of you guys would not be picked by the "here's why football is important and worthwhile" group.
It's like that line in The Abyss, "stay off my side."
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Seabass I'm a Red Raider for Barnstable what town you live in?? yeah are Varsity sucks are Freshman is the best we got of course =P
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Why not just be honest and tell us why you didn't make the team? Too afraid? Didn't want to make the physical committment? Too fat? Hated one of the players? Had a girlfriend stolen from you by a football jock?
...Too busy playing AH!!!!!!!!
Has anyone noticed the simalarities in raider's and cleric's signature? Shouldn't they be buddies?
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Originally posted by yankedudel
...Too busy playing AH!!!!!!!!
Has anyone noticed the simalarities in raider's and cleric's signature? Shouldn't they be buddies?
:p i haven't been in high school for 13 years now, hadn't discovered this addiction yet.
As for him being a squad mate, he is in the same squad as i am, but i haven't been active since a little before he was recruited. I still have not had the pleasure of playing with him.
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Football was great for both my sons and myself. My youngest didn't like it at first but I pushed him and by his sophmore year in highschool he loved it. Then he was hit low in his junior year which bent his leg backwards at the knee ending his football and making me wish I hadn't pushed him. Still, it was good for him overall.
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Rip,
You’re really flippin out over this even more than clerick. If you think that football is the ultimate sport and everything else is a wannabee sport, then you are blind. Football is a great sport and certainly is popular. Many other sports promote as much teamwork as football, however. Many sports require much greater athletic conditioning and effort, and of course many require less. Many sports require much greater skill, and of course many require less. Many other sports are also very popular. It is silly that in most places football receives as more attention than any other sport. What makes football more worthy than basketball, baseball or hockey? Even less popular sports like gymnastics, skiing or swimming have plenty of top athletes who deserve more respect than the average football player. For many people, being successful in “some other” sport is more important and desirable than football. Personally, if I had a son I’d rather he be a swimming or track star than a quarterback. You should be embarrassed of your elitist attitude, but I doubt that you are capable of recognizing when you are being a snob. This attitude is what many people don’t like about football.
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raider73,
Sorry about the hijack. There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your team.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Rip,
You’re really flippin out over this even more than clerick. If you think that football is the ultimate sport and everything else is a wannabee sport, then you are blind. Football is a great sport and certainly is popular. Many other sports promote as much teamwork as football, however. Many sports require much greater athletic conditioning and effort, and of course many require less. Many sports require much greater skill, and of course many require less. Many other sports are also very popular. It is silly that in most places football receives as more attention than any other sport. What makes football more worthy than basketball, baseball or hockey? Even less popular sports like gymnastics, skiing or swimming have plenty of top athletes who deserve more respect than the average football player. For many people, being successful in “some other” sport is more important and desirable than football. Personally, if I had a son I’d rather he be a swimming or track star than a quarterback. You should be embarrassed of your elitist attitude, but I doubt that you are capable of recognizing when you are being a snob. This attitude is what many people don’t like about football.
Please show me where I said it was the ultimate sport. Keep in mind I did NOT play the sport either....
I think all sports instill lessons in life you cannot extract from any formal education.
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Originally posted by clerick
:p i haven't been in high school for 13 years now, hadn't discovered this addiction yet.
As for him being a squad mate, he is in the same squad as i am, but i haven't been active since a little before he was recruited. I still have not had the pleasure of playing with him.
One would expect squaddies to keep their dirty laundry on their own forums, not a public OT forum like this. Shame on you.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
One would expect squaddies to keep their dirty laundry on their own forums, not a public OT forum like this. Shame on you.
Thats the second time you've tried to be condescending. Try again, it might work next time.
This has nothing to do with squads or loyalty to a boy who has yet to earn it. It is about his moronic posts and assertions by fools like you and him.
Squad member or not, he's demonstrated time and time again on this forum that he is just another noob who will likely relive his football glory years selling shoes.
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Hehe.
Football is not the end all/do all by a long shot.
Back in the days of the dinosaur during Junior High we had a great coach at the small town I attended.
We went three years with not a loss. Was a blast.
Second year in high school every thing changed. Instead of replacing the coach with a coach the school went with one of the in house guys.
Early in that year I screwed up one ankle. Shortly after the other. Pain, lots of tape and go for it. It became quite obvious the game this cat was playing. It was "You bow down to me and worship me and you are in the groove. You don`t , I`ll make your life miserable". I never kissed nobody`s behind for nothing, then or now.
One of the happiest days during that period was the day I told the moron exactly where he could stuff his football team and his arse kissers.
That`s exactly what he ended up with for a team. Every little sniveling, butt smooching nobody that would worship him.
He did attempt to make my life miserable for the rest of my High School stay, but he lost out on that also. I dealt him so much misery that he grimaced every time he saw me.
Since then the little town school has followed his lead all these years.
They have taught the kids so much through football. They have taught them that football is the highest priority of the school. It comes over everything and everyone. Can`t make good grades? Not a prob if you are playing football. It`s all covered up and taken care of.
Get in trouble with the law? No prob if you are on the team. We will cover it up.
Get caught with a couple pounds of pot and a little coke in your locker. Hey...no prob. In this instance the kid got no punishment , while a girl with a borrowed truck got expelled for two weeks for having two empty beer cans in the back of the truck on the parking lot. I mean after all, it was on a Thursday and their was a big game Friday night. (They had a little different outlook the next week after I attended a school board meeting) :)
All in all, like I said, it has taught the kids there sooooo much.
It has taught them that if you smooch the right rear, join the team, then you can be a total slacker and it will be all smooth sailing.
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Football is not THE sport????
Heretics!
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Originally posted by AKIron
Football is not THE sport????
Heretics!
Downhil skiing is by far a greater rush :p
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Originally posted by FBBone
Always got picked last, huh?
I got picked last once in football. After that, first. I can still throw the pigskin with either arm 35 yards+.
I played pickup games with Varsity players and they told me it "wasn't worth playing on a losing team". I went to Livonia Churchill. We tied some record of consecutive losses. I attended there from 87-91. They never won a game from 85-94 or 95. The only reason I didn't play is the coach for Varsity was a joke.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I got picked last once in football. After that, first. I can still throw the pigskin with either arm 35 yards+.
I played pickup games with Varsity players and they told me it "wasn't worth playing on a losing team". I went to Livonia Churchill. We tied some record of consecutive losses. I attended there from 87-91. They never won a game from 85-94 or 95. The only reason I didn't play is the coach for Varsity was a joke.
I think coaching is the most important aspect of any team sport. Without a good coach, the informal "lesson" in life could be catastrophic from a psychological point of view.
That said, my son's future Middle Schoold football coach in 2008 season, we met 2 weeks ago...he played College ball with John Kitna at Central Washington University. (I asked him if I could contact John for a reference ;) ) He's a really nice guy and I chatted with him a good 30 minutes after the formal Parent/Coach introduction. I tend to "interview" coaches before I let my kids play on their teams. I'm more concerned of their overall philosophical view of life, sports and how they interpret the two as a parallelism rather than the "winning" aspect of sports.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Please show me where I said it was the ultimate sport.
Here:
Originally posted by Ripsnort
:rofl
Ski racing in Minnesota? You definately didn't do that at Wild Mountain (formerly known as Troll Hagen in the 60's and 70's) :rofl A race there would have taken 15 seconds. :)
Sounds like the bitterness pill has kicked in. Too bad you couldn't make the team.
And here:
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Why not just be honest and tell us why you didn't make the team? Too afraid? Didn't want to make the physical committment? Too fat? Hated one of the players? Had a girlfriend stolen from you by a football jock? You shouldn't have such a bitter outlook on a sport you know nothing about just because YOU failed to make a team.
Assuming that he didn’t make the football team and had to settle for a lesser sport like skiing.
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Wow, that's the best stretch of 2007 I've seen on this board. :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
FWIW, skiing is my favorite sport, always has been, always will be. Guess where we're going for our 2 week xmas vacation? ;)
FYI: Skiing in Minnesota sucks after you've been spoiled by Vermont, Colorado, Utah and Washington. ;)
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It’s not a stretch in the tiniest bit. You’re giving him a hard time for not “making the team” when in fact he chose to ski. Everyone can read what you wrote; denying it doesn’t change a thing.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
It’s not a stretch in the tiniest bit. You’re giving him a hard time for not “making the team” when in fact he chose to ski. Everyone can read what you wrote; denying it doesn’t change a thing.
You're interpretation is completely wrong. What else can I say to comfort you in your obviously wrong decision to think otherwise?
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I got picked last once in football. After that, first............
Karaya, I hope you also saw my second post where I explained the the comment you quoted was in fun................