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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: PapaFox on December 13, 2007, 12:25:11 AM
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Is anyone running Aces High on a 30 inch monitor with 2560x1600 resolution? I'm building a computer for a squad member and he's getting a 30" Gateway LCD monitor for his work programs (but boy will it be nice to run AH on it!).
My big question is whether a single Nvidia 8800 GTX or the new G-92-based 8800GTS 512 can deliver 60fps at that 2560x1600 resolution.
Fortunately, the Gateway has a powerful processor that can upscale a 1920x1200 or lower resolution up to the max resolution, so there is a plan B if the single video card can't cut the mustard at max res.
thx,
Papafox
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I can't see why he couldn't. Also depends on the processor other specs of the system too. But I imagine budget hasn't constrained these.
Running the high res pack and AF and AA would be the question, see if at that high of a resolution to see what kind of load AH delivers.
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dunno if said "gateway" is worth putting an 8800GTX on, most likley a card half the price would offer the same performance considering the system being the bottleneck..
I run a 7900GTO on an athlon 64X2 6000+ and ive never seen anything under 60 FPS at max res, it always stays at 60 as that is the refresh rate of the monitor. it would probably be well over 100 if it want for that.
AH is more CPU intensive than Graphic card intensive..
a good cpu and ram will net bigger gains than 2 wasting money on a high dollar 8 series Nvidia card.
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P.S. at THAT resolution you don't need FSAA. There'd be so many pixels in the picture it would almost do the job for you.
When you think about it, FSAA is a way to get around lower resolutions by smoothing them out. Higher resolutions have a smaller pixel size and wouldn't need the smoothing as much.
I'd looove to see that setup, though :D
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Hmmmm.
wonder how AH would look running on my 50 inch plasma TV. LOL
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hmmmm.
wonder how AH would look running on my 50 inch plasma TV. LOL
The real question is how would your 50 inch plasma tv look with cockpit bars eternally burned on the screen?
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
The real question is how would your 50 inch plasma tv look with cockpit bars eternally burned on the screen?
And that is exactly the reason why I am still only wondering what it would look like. :aok
Im crazy.
Not stupid ;)
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Originally posted by Wingnutt
AH is more CPU intensive than Graphic card intensive..
a good cpu and ram will net bigger gains than 2 wasting money on a high dollar 8 series Nvidia card.
Thank you Wingnutt! I purchased an 8600gt for about 130 bucks instead of 260 to 280 for the 8800. I'm satisfied. Good to have someone who thinks like me. I opted for more processor and memory. Pretty darn happy with the setup. In fact I am just amazed how fast it moves through the web pages and runs AH.
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This is an old picture, DJ229 got a bigger TV to play on a few months ago :D
(http://airmafia.com/mafia/dj_simpit/screen.jpg)
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You wouldn't burn the bars onto a plasma screen, any more than you would on your LCD monitor, would you?
My LCD's got no issues after several years of heavy AH use, I doubt a much higher quality plasma would have a worse result.
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Originally posted by Krusty
You wouldn't burn the bars onto a plasma screen, any more than you would on your LCD monitor, would you?
My LCD's got no issues after several years of heavy AH use, I doubt a much higher quality plasma would have a worse result.
You would, permanently too.
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Why? I don't have a plasma TV but it's the latest rage for the most vibrant of colors. If the colors burned into it within a short period of time, there'd be no reason to use it as a TV either, right? I mean, if it's that crappy, what's the big alure of having a plasma TV?
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I left my computer on downloading a few things overnight and burned lines into my monitor lol...
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I've left mine online for a while before, also, and after 2 years (just over 2, I think) it's still got no problems at all. It's not even the best. It's got 26ms response time so that's a clue as to how bargain it is.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Why? I don't have a plasma TV but it's the latest rage for the most vibrant of colors. If the colors burned into it within a short period of time, there'd be no reason to use it as a TV either, right? I mean, if it's that crappy, what's the big alure of having a plasma TV?
TV picture contains a constantly changing stream of images where computers typically are stuck with a constant image of some sorts.
Ask yourself if you've ever seen a superior and bright plasma computer monitor? Then ask yourself why..
The main pitfall of plasma is and has been tendency to burn images, high power consumption and a gradually fading brightness.
The new monitors are better than old in every aspect but the problems still exist. LCD works on a totally different principle which is why LCD is used for monitors, not plasma.
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Well, I acutally have a pretty nice monitor but, I've only had it since january... haha
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Originally posted by Avaro
I left my computer on downloading a few things overnight and burned lines into my monitor lol...
Do you still use a monochrome/Hercules display?!
:D
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Originally posted by Boroda
Do you still use a monochrome/Hercules display?!
:D
Haha, Nah, I use a 7950GT 512mb and a Hanns-G :noid
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Fellow Aces High pilots,
The computer I'm building will have no shortage of CPU power (Intel Q6600 G0 quadcore chip overclocked to 3.2+Ghz. What concerns me is pushing pixels fast enough. A 2560x1600 display contains 4 times as many pixels as a 1280x800 display. Could a single 8800GTX cut the mustard at 60fps?
My 8800GTX will easily give me 60fps on a 1920 x 1200 display (which is 2.3Million pixels). Does anyone have experience with a 2560 x 1600 monitor (which is 4.1 millon pixels)? If not, we'll give a report here once the computer is up and running.
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SLI = Suckers Love It.
You get 5% more performance for twice the price. Worst idea ever.
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I've got a 37" 1080P LCD monitor. Right now its doing duty as a hiDef TV in the bedroom but when we finally move it'll be in my office. I actually got it for work since it lets me use a large "virtual desktop" instead of having everything buried. It wont however fit in my home office due to built ins. I've flown AH on it a few times and its nice but not overly amazing. I've got a 19in LCD I use for now. I might actually keep the 19 for AH and just use the 37 in for work.
I've got my eye on a 60+ in lcd for the family room and will port a line to there to run AH off it occasionally:)
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
This is an old picture, DJ229 got a bigger TV to play on a few months ago :D
(http://airmafia.com/mafia/dj_simpit/screen.jpg)
Hiya Fugitive,
I have upgraded twice since the 50". :D
Here is the latest 60" Sony SXRD A3000. Also upgraded Surround to an Onkyo 705 setup as 7.2 with 15" powered subs. :D
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/davenrino/Tday07027.jpg)
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Here is a little closer shot. The guages are actually crystal clear but my photography is not. :)
BTW. No motion blur with 2.5ms response time and 120htz refresh at a native res of 1920x1080p. Also, no burn-in issues with SXRD LCOS technology.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/davenrino/Tday07028.jpg)
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Dave, I think all that fresh Hawaiian air has gone to your head !!! Sweet !:eek:
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my high-res lcd projector is gonna be bigger :p
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Originally posted by Stratocaster
my high-res lcd projector is gonna be bigger :p
But can you use it in a bright room? Seriously, if I had a large enough room, I would have a HT with a front projector but 60" does look pretty big from 8 feet away. My little setup also includes Bluray, HD DVD and an HD DVR with 410 gigs of storage. It looks and sounds awesome. I still love my Sony as my primary PC monitor from my new Lazy-Boy rocker-recliner. Might as well be comfortable flying the unfriendly skies.:)
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
This is an old picture, DJ229 got a bigger TV to play on a few months ago :D
(http://airmafia.com/mafia/dj_simpit/screen.jpg)
i have the same sized suround sound for my compter and i got it for $299 and a sound blasterx whatever dohiki
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Originally posted by splitatom
i have the same sized suround sound for my compter and i got it for $299 and a sound blasterx whatever dohiki
Probably so. That setup was 5 years ago and was long since retired to the livingroom where my wife usually doesn't even use them with the old 50".
That was my first HTIB surround setup and I think I did pay just over $300 for it then. That wouldn't even pay for one of the subwoofers on my current setup.
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You seriously need some help with your audio setup, mate. Nice screen though.
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Originally posted by A8TOOL
Now this is really wierd.
Davarino (LOL) and the fugitive seem to be one and the same. The fugitive has the old tv picture but says he replaced it with a newer one. THEN Davarino pops in the picture with the same Door, wall, lights,....think I noticed a few other things... OH YEAH CLOCK! but a newer TV and speakers claiming to be a different person.
I met the fugitive today in the MA and what a weirdo he was there. Gave everybody a hard time for nothing... kinda like he was bipolar:mad: :D :rolleyes: ....but thats a different guy rt.
Anyway, I think the fugitive is playing you all for fools. I believe he's talking to himself here on the HTC BB trying to get some kind of conversation going with himself that you can be part of.
Strange is all:rolleyes:
I wonder how many times the fugitive and DAVE have been in the same thread? Probably as many as they have been in the same room I bet. I also wonder i he will take those pics dn to try and cover up his mistake.
No... They use to be in the Air Mafia together. Fugitive is Maddog so he has those pictures.. Including everyone elses setups from that squad.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
You seriously need some help with your audio setup, mate. Nice screen though.
LOL,
Of course I would like a better audio system if I had unlimited resourses- who wouldn't. If you really want to help with my audio setup, you could give me another $10k. :) It is actually a great sounding system for under $2500. Besides, my playroom is only 10' x 12'. The new high def audio codecs (DD True HD, etc) sound awesome with HD movies.:)
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
This is an old picture, DJ229 got a bigger TV to play on a few months ago :D
(http://airmafia.com/mafia/dj_simpit/screen.jpg)
BARSTARD
:)
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
Hiya Fugitive,
I have upgraded twice since the 50". :D
Here is the latest 60" Sony SXRD A3000. Also upgraded Surround to an Onkyo 705 setup as 7.2 with 15" powered subs. :D
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/davenrino/Tday07027.jpg)
Double BARSTARD
:aok
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Nice ammo load out.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
SLI = Suckers Love It.
You get 5% more performance for twice the price. Worst idea ever.
Hey...! I resemble that! (twin 8800Gtx's)
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Hmmmm.
wonder how AH would look running on my 50 inch plasma TV. LOL
You're right. I also have a 50" plasma and have to look around the sky a lot to keep the "burning" factor down. So far hasn't been a problem, but even with all that looking around I still get surprised and blasted out of the sky more times than I care to admit... maybe everyone should get plasmas and the extra looking around might cut down on some of the sarcastic "Thanks for the check-6" vox we hear all the time.
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How do you load a Pony with that much ammo???
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Originally posted by azmotorhead
How do you load a Pony with that much ammo???
Arena setup for offline practice. I don't usually auger into the side of a hill intentionally when online. :)
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Originally posted by Jazz1
Hey...! I resemble that! (twin 8800Gtx's)
Resemble or resent? Sucker.. :D
ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
Verb 1. resemble - appear like; be similar or bear a likeness to; "She resembles her mother very much"; "This paper resembles my own work"
I don't mean to be rude but it's true that SLI is a royal waste of money. You get worst bang for your buck possible.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Resemble or resent? Sucker.. :D
I don't mean to be rude but it's true that SLI is a royal waste of money. You get worst bang for your buck possible.
Actually, you were pretty rude about my audio setup without even knowing what it is, let alone hearing it.:)
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I just snapped up a nice Gateway 24" monitor today..
MY GOD..
using TIR actually made me a little disoriented for a while
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
Actually, you were pretty rude about my audio setup without even knowing what it is, let alone hearing it.:)
Well I hope those were 7.1 effect speakers I saw on the wall..
Wall mounting, small size, position high in the room.. Cannot produce a quality soundfield.
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Instead of all of us buying big screen TVs why don't we get AH to use bigger icons so we can see the bad guys. Even on my 22 inch monitor the bogies are miniscule until its too late.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Well I hope those were 7.1 effect speakers I saw on the wall..
Wall mounting, small size, position high in the room.. Cannot produce a quality soundfield.
as long as I could hear the game over the sound of the Pacific Ocean hitting the beach near-by, I think I could suffer thru !:D
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You could probably double your sound quality by installing the speakers on 2-3 feet long wall mountings which would separate the speakers from the wall and allow you to point them towards your listening position.
Small speaker size is not inherently a bad thing but it does make the speaker sensitive to wall reflections. Direct wall placement is especially problematic in bass region where it tends to make the sound boomy and harsh. Early reflections kill the high-mid region also.
With 3 feet or more clearance from any walls (or the ceiling/floor for that matter) will produce you a greatly improved sound using the same hardware as now. This 'tweak' is easy to try, costs nothing and almost guaranteed works.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
You could probably double your sound quality by installing the speakers on 2-3 feet long wall mountings which would separate the speakers from the wall and allow you to point them towards your listening position.
Small speaker size is not inherently a bad thing but it does make the speaker sensitive to wall reflections. Direct wall placement is especially problematic in bass region where it tends to make the sound boomy and harsh. Early reflections kill the high-mid region also.
With 3 feet or more clearance from any walls (or the ceiling/floor for that matter) will produce you a greatly improved sound using the same hardware as now. This 'tweak' is easy to try, costs nothing and almost guaranteed works.
Thanks for your input, I may try something to that end. It is difficult with such a small room. The speakers are already angled down toward my listening position and I used the 705's Audessy Equalizer Setup with some modifications. The bass is not as huge a problem since the fronts are routed through a powered sub, all 7 channels' crossovers set to 80hz, and the LFE is directed to another powered sub.
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yeesh... my idea of a sound setup is two 30 year old speakers plugged into an old stereo head unit and a cable going to the crappy soundcard on my comp... lol
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Originally posted by Stratocaster
yeesh... my idea of a sound setup is two 30 year old speakers plugged into an old stereo head unit and a cable going to the crappy soundcard on my comp... lol
LOL,
Does that mean your CPID wasn't taken from the guitar? :)
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I actually care about the sound quality coming from my instruments... when it comes to guns explosions and engine... how low can I go? is the question :aok
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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
Thanks for your input, I may try something to that end. It is difficult with such a small room. The speakers are already angled down toward my listening position and I used the 705's Audessy Equalizer Setup with some modifications. The bass is not as huge a problem since the fronts are routed through a powered sub, all 7 channels' crossovers set to 80hz, and the LFE is directed to another powered sub.
Cool I hope you do. The 80hz crossover does help a bit but the effect of the wall goes way beyond that, up to 200hz. The early reflections are especially harmful for sound quality and should be dampened. If you take a mirror and spot the places in the wall where you can see the speaker(s) through the mirror (edit: from your listening position, duh), those are the places to put some acoustic dampener in the room.
A book case full of books is excellent dampener. On lower positions a massive sofa will do fine. If you want to go hardcore, you can build a special resonator, dampener or reflector on the wall to the right spot.
The thing with speakers is that no matter how flat your response graph is, in a typical room the reflections mess that COMPLETELY up. So you're left with either high directivity speakers (Innersound, Magnepan ,Martinlogan, Quad esl63) or acoustic dampening. I'm with directivity.