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Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LePaul on December 13, 2007, 10:52:17 AM
I wasnt aware I did til a few months ago.  From time to time, would wake up with sore jaw muscles.  

I see the dentist Monday and get fitted for a night guard/mouthpiece thingy.  Apparently its pretty common.  

All I know is dang, the headache/sore jaw muscle/sore neck thing really sucks today!
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 13, 2007, 11:20:39 AM
my girlfriend does all the time!

its so loud sometimes it wakes me up and i have to elbow her in the ribs.

i think it has sometimes to do with inner stress, when she has a long night of grinding and i speak to her in the morning i generaly try to ask if she has anything pressing on her mind, usualy she does and the next night she sleeps like a log....so do i :)

my opinion?

dont get the mouth gaurd, spend sometime with a trusted friend or family and see if you can find out what is bugging you in the first place. a free and easy mind will give free and easy sleep.

sort your head out and the teeth will follow.

good luck
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LePaul on December 13, 2007, 11:51:30 AM
Im sure that's it...the stress.  My gf is driving me insane.  She keeps "forgetting" to get one of her cats fixed so for 2 weeks, we have to endure the freaking things 24/7 howling.

She was "supposed" to get rid of some pets before she moved in, but like so many other things in this relationship, she didnt find it convenient for herself.

So...grumble grumble...between the house being chaos 24/7 and me trying to sleep days, Im just *wicked* happy.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 13, 2007, 12:53:43 PM
aww man, sad to say it but its definitely the stress and sounds like the g/f is to blame.
not sure what to suggest because i dont know you or your g/f or the situation youre in.

One thing i know for sure is that love/relationships are supposed to bring happiness and take away the stress, not add to it.

life is too short and pointless to get stressed out, you have to work out exactly what is causing your stress and stop it spoiling your night times once and for all.


maybe before you sleep:

-have a long bath and read a book

-spend some time to think about your stress and clear it from your mind before you sleep.

-make sure your bedroom doesnt have anything that reminds you of work, stress, cats, etc.  sounds silly but it really makes a difference.

-get stoned or have a little drink

-kick the cat outside and keep old shoes ready on window ledge. (optional)


most important!

- make sure you have had some 'Me Time' every day. if you have not done something that you want to do just for yourself each day, then there was no point in waking up at all. its your life, dont waste it on other people the whole time.


all this stuff helps me, i have had times of serious stress in my life.

all the stress is still in my life but i have found ways of not letting it bother me when i need to get some good sleep.

worrying about your stress will take years off your life and so will losing sleep, its just not worth it.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2007, 01:40:11 PM
One of my kids does. Mouthguard is a great idea.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: indy007 on December 13, 2007, 01:47:26 PM
Lay off the cocaine & exstacy?
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: Flatbar on December 13, 2007, 02:52:48 PM
My teeth are like stars....no problemo
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: SD67 on December 14, 2007, 02:00:15 AM
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Originally posted by Flatbar
My teeth are like stars....no problemo

light years away?
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LePaul on December 14, 2007, 02:09:32 AM
Good advice, Batfink

Once she got home and heard the noise that (colorful metaphor) cat was making, she immediately scheduled an appointment for it to get fixed tomorrow.  On top of that, she's planning to give away 3 of her pets she had been putting off (2 cats, 1 dog)  That'll cure a lot of hassle!
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 14, 2007, 03:04:14 AM
I grind my teeth at night and it's trouble.

It wears the teeth down and can even break them. I have a half prostethic in my upper front teeth that used to be glued in. I woke up biting that tooth off several nights untill they anchored it with two steel spikes. Which wasn't very pleasant btw.. :rolleyes:

They said I shouldn't have any feeling left in that half tooth when they started drilling their way in middle of the tooth.. well I did. :O And being a kid I didn't even complain about it untill it was finished (started panicing when they took 0.3 inch steel screws and janked them in the holes).
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LePaul on December 14, 2007, 03:32:40 AM
Asides the obvious tooth damage, you dont wake up with a sore jaw?  

Im popping about 800mg of ibuprofen every 5 hours today.  My jaw isnt as sore as it was yesterday, it was sore to the touch...today its just still not back to normal.  (Seems to always be worse when you THINK about it!)
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: culero on December 14, 2007, 04:37:28 AM
I've had this problem in the past. The "night guard" my dentist fitted fixed it right away, and its very unobtrusive - just a little doo-dad that snaps in place over my upper middle 2 teeth. The theory is that when you go to chomp down and something blocks your teeth from closing all the way, reflex takes over and relaxes the bite motion. My sore jaw went away immediately.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LePaul on December 14, 2007, 07:52:57 AM
I wish mine would!  I was hoping this wouldnt hurt so much after a day or so.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 14, 2007, 08:22:23 AM
did the night gaurd stop you grinding all together or was it just damage limitation?
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on December 14, 2007, 09:56:52 AM
Yeah there are those devices that will stop you from grinding. AFAIK they also work but naturally are quite uncomfortable, sleeping with a chunk of plastic in the mouth..

I personally don't get sore jaws except for a couple rare occasions. My trouble is more with the teeth. Sometimes I still wake up at night when I chug my front teeth real hard together. So hard that I get scared I broke them off again.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: culero on December 14, 2007, 10:47:32 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
did the night gaurd stop you grinding all together or was it just damage limitation?


Altogether. Its just a hard plastic cap you slip over your two front uppers. It has a small protrusion to the rear that your lower teeth come into contact with just before the rest of your teeth touch each other. Clamp your teeth together, then open your mouth just a few millimeters. That's what the device does for you.

My dentist said its a reflex thing. Apparently the front teeth touching the guard before your jaw goes completely shut triggers a reflex to relax your jaw muscles from clamping down. All I know is the pain in my jaw went completely away after wearing the device a few days while I slept. After a month or two, I quit wearing it and haven't had any further trouble. Apparently it "trained" me to stop grinding my teeth.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: culero on December 14, 2007, 10:49:07 AM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
did the night gaurd stop you grinding all together or was it just damage limitation?


Altogether. Its just a hard plastic cap you slip over your two front uppers. It has a small protrusion to the rear that your lower teeth come into contact with just before the rest of your teeth touch each other. Clamp your teeth together, then open your mouth just a few millimeters. That's what the device does for you.

My dentist said its a reflex thing. Apparently the front teeth touching the guard before your jaw goes completely shut triggers a reflex to relax your jaw muscles from clamping down. All I know is the pain in my jaw went completely away after wearing the device a few days while I slept. After a month or two, I quit wearing it and haven't had any further trouble. Apparently it "trained" me to stop grinding my teeth.

Where's 1ijac when you need him? :)
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: culero on December 14, 2007, 10:50:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by B@tfinkV
did the night gaurd stop you grinding all together or was it just damage limitation?


Altogether. Its just a hard plastic cap you slip over your two front uppers. It has a small protrusion to the rear that your lower teeth come into contact with just before the rest of your teeth touch each other. Clamp your teeth together, then open your mouth just a few millimeters. That's what the device does for you.

My dentist said its a reflex thing. Apparently the front teeth touching the guard before your jaw goes completely shut triggers a reflex to relax your jaw muscles from clamping down. All I know is the pain in my jaw went completely away after wearing the device a few days while I slept. After a month or two, I quit wearing it and haven't had any further trouble. Apparently it "trained" me to stop grinding my teeth.

Also, in reply to MrRipley, no the device isn't uncomfortable at all. Its really quite innocuous.

Where's 1ijac when you need him? :)
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: Benny Moore on December 14, 2007, 11:04:46 AM
I do it.  It's definitely due to some sort of emotional state, most likely stress as pointing out.  I know that because I did it throughout high school, then stopped after that, then started grinding again during the two and a half years when I had a really crappy job, then stopped again when I quit.  And now since my hand surgury, I've started it up once more.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 14, 2007, 11:28:51 AM
nice triple post culero :)  so the gaurd infact does stop you grinding, that must be a bonus thanks for the info.



benny, any chance you'll ever get back and subscribe? watching our old films is quite enough of a fix...
hope that hand is doing ok for you.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: boxboy28 on December 14, 2007, 02:09:04 PM
LePaul...its called TMJ...............i do it too from time to time...not allways .........

For me the first time i find out i been doing it when waking up thinking my GF(at the time)  Jacked im in the jaw that night................the lil cartalige disk that fits into the hing socket of my jaw will pop out and takes a few days to make its way back into place and stay.

The slip - night gaurds from the dentist are a rip off and total waste of your money.....seriously.......... ...i got one back in 1994 and it cost almost $400.

you can buy the dang mouth pieces and fit them your self.............if you can build an R2D2 you can fit your own slip guard!!!!!!!!

i think you can get the blanks at a pharmcy or try online............all it is, is a mouth piece(if you ever played football as a kid you had one) but a little harder material that you boil and fit then file/cut the ruff egdes till its comfy.


seriously save your self the money...........once you wear it and the grinding stops(the stress passes) you wont wear it till the next time youy need it...........during that time teeth can shift ever so  slightly in your mouth and it might not fit..............to the dentist that another $400 he gets to fit you for a new one!
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LePaul on December 14, 2007, 02:33:44 PM
I bought a mouthpiece/guard but I got the wrong size.  I am seeing the dentist monday tho, so I will have one soon.

One other thing i noticed...sometimes I wake up with my right ear feeling as though it was folded in half.  Hurts like hell for a few minutes after waking up.  Im guessing thats a TMJ thing too?
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: Benny Moore on December 14, 2007, 03:08:06 PM
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
benny, any chance you'll ever get back and subscribe? watching our old films is quite enough of a fix...
hope that hand is doing ok for you.


No chance.  I wish, though.  Say, I accidentally deleted all of my films when I uninstalled Aces High II after head-to-head shut down, and since then I've reinstalled it so that I can watch films.  Would you be so kind as to send me all of the films of our fights?  You have my e-mail address, right?

As for my hand, it's good and not good.  It's good in that I can do everyday tasks now without pain, but it's not good in that I can't use a gaming joystick without my hand hurting.  Ironically, I could use a real aircraft stick with no problem, as long as the stick forces weren't abnormally high (for instance, harsh maneuvers at high speed).
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: B@tfinkV on December 14, 2007, 03:31:07 PM
sure thing, i sadly only have a small collection, maybe only a pair of films from those days. one is a p51 vs p38 and the other might possibly be ki61 vs p38. maybe a couple of others if i look through and i will send them to you sometime over christmas. truly a shame that you wont be able to play, one of the most fun, creative and smooth flying fighters that i truly miss being able to fight.
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: Ripsnort on December 14, 2007, 04:22:54 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul
One other thing i noticed...sometimes I wake up with my right ear feeling as though it was folded in half.  Hurts like hell for a few minutes after waking up.  Im guessing thats a TMJ thing too?


(http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p1009683p275w.jpg)
:p
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: Flatbar on December 14, 2007, 04:35:44 PM
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Originally posted by SD67
light years away?


Nope, they come out at night :p
Title: Any one else grind yer teeth
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on December 14, 2007, 07:45:20 PM
What kind of mouthguard you need really depends on the type of teeth-grinding you are suffering from.

If you wake up with sore jaw muscles it usually isn't teeth grinding per se, but more of "teeth-pressing" and the soreness is caused by your muscles being flexed most of the night.
If you like MrRipley actually grind you get the typical symptom of chips breaking off, or maybe just "flatting" your teeth.

But it can also be a combination of the two, which is where you really can do damage and quick. Probably waking up your girlfriend as well.

Also pain from the ear often can easily be caused by the close proximity of the jaw joint, probably the disc slipping in and out of place.
To get a sense of the joint you can try to put your fingers in your ears while opening and closing your jaw and you can easily feel the mandibules movement.

As always it's best to deal with the cause and not the symptoms, but sometimes that's not possible.