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Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: AquaShrimp on December 13, 2007, 01:01:44 PM
Last night around 1am, I decided to fly my Me262 (Rook).  I took off with 100% fuel, and tried to find some action.  The Rooks had pounded a base into submission, and no one was upping.  After a few low passes, I climbed to 10,000 feet and decided to cruise a few sectors over.  However, while I was flying past a seemingly deserted Bishop base, a huge darbar appeared.  

I hauled the nose around of my Swallow and nearly orgasmed in maniacal glee at what I saw.  Six formations of B-17s, along with three or four P-51s had just lifted off.  Being the good team player that I am, I first radioed in the position of the lumbering bombers, then I went to work.  

The bombers were doing 135mph in their climbs, so I set myself up to attack from the 9:00 position.  I knew colliding was a definate possibility.  The first bomber set I attacked was flying off the lead formation's 8:00.  I blew the entire vertical stabilizer off the lead plane in that formation.  The plane lumbered on for about 30 seconds before going into a flat spin.  I yanked my nose up just in time to get my sights on another B-17 formation and I squeezed the trigger.  Two bombers exploded nearly simultaneously.  After a 500mph immelman, I went back to work on the original bomber formation, downing one more.  Then I set myself up for some head-on attacks.  I ripped through them like a knife through hot butter.

The bomber pilots seemed utterly confused that I was not attacking from the dead 6:00 position.  A few bursts from the bombers guns had been fired at me, but nothing substantial.  I collided with some debris of one bomber, and my number 1 engine began leaking oil.  My minion had arrived by that time, and were chomping up the rest of the bombers and P-51s.  I went ahead and landed my 7 kills after buzzing a Bish goon on the way back to base.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: TwentyFo on December 13, 2007, 01:10:35 PM
You try a head on attack with my bombers, you will not be returning home.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: P47Gra on December 13, 2007, 01:54:12 PM
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Originally posted by TwentyFo
You try a head on attack with my bombers, you will not be returning home.


What he said!
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: AquaShrimp on December 13, 2007, 03:11:50 PM
Most definately, a good bomber gunner can hit you from any angle.  The only chance you have against them is double-teaming and coming from angles which make them have to switch gun positions.

But these guys were not good gunners by any means.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: 68Ripper on December 13, 2007, 03:16:18 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
But these guys were not good gunners by any means.


What do you expect at 1:00 AM ? :rofl :rofl
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: FiLtH on December 13, 2007, 03:34:19 PM
Good AAR :)
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: bobtom on December 13, 2007, 03:41:28 PM
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
What do you expect at 1:00 AM ? :rofl :rofl



:rofl:rofl lol :rofl :rofl
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: Rich46yo on December 13, 2007, 04:58:38 PM
Big reason why my flight time is so high compared to my shooting time. I refuse to take off heavies like the 17 from front line bases and I refuse to fly them so low they are easy meat.

                               A 262 with a full load of 30mm ammo is capable of killing 2, or even all 3, B-17s in one pass when low and climbing. I dont care if your Wyatt Earp of bomber gunnery. The 262 closes so fast you have only seconds to zero him in. Most of all when he has additional "E" from altitude.

                            Oh I fight off 262s all the time, if I dont kill them I cripple them and watch them run for home with their pants on fire, with The stick so afraid of losing perks. But a superior stick in a 262 simply has to be respected. And in such a situation, so low and slow, you give away a big edge.

                          In 17s I want to be at least 12,000' up before such an encounter becomes a possibility.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: kennyhayes on December 13, 2007, 06:42:28 PM
you go head on with me you will be comeing home unless i put a 50cal bullet into you;r pilots head and splatter his brains all over the cockpit:D
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: Comp2D on December 13, 2007, 08:03:25 PM
I'm pretty sure I was one of those B-17s. It was a lousy mission plan to start with, the "leader" took too long to get the mission up and off the ground, we were too close to the front lines, etc.

And then the 262 came. And shredded us while we were still trying to chase the "leader" and form up.

But it was pretty incredible watching what a 262 can do to a formation. It just ripped it apart.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: Rich46yo on December 13, 2007, 08:44:16 PM
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Originally posted by kennyhayes
you go head on with me you will be comeing home unless i put a 50cal bullet into you;r pilots head and splatter his brains all over the cockpit:D


                           I dont fear HOs generally and dont ever remember being shot down by one in my bombers. The closing speed is so fast that, unlike in real life, its a low percentage shot for a fighter. Anything horizontal is low percentage. I too have shot down Ho'ers.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: BaldEagl on December 14, 2007, 01:07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I dont care if your Wyatt Earp of bomber gunnery. The 262 closes so fast you have only seconds to zero him in. Most of all when he has additional "E" from altitude.


Not if YOU are in an AR234.  

I had a 262 chase me (in AR234's) for 2-3 sectors one night recently.  I got to target and dropped as he was closing to 3-4K.  I jumped to F3 view looking back and as he made his final climb to my level six at ~1K I nosed up and gave him a quick burst.  I smoked his left engine.  He tried manouvering a couple of times, each time with me taking short bursts at him until his left engine finally died and he turned for home.

I'm sure this guy was thinking "FREE KILLS!"  :t   :O   :(

:p
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: Furball on December 14, 2007, 01:11:48 PM
Slashing attacks from slightly above or below and 3 - 9 o clock work best in a 262 against bomber formations i found.  If you angle it right you can destroy 2 or 3 in one pass (hit the fuselage of the centre bomber and the wingtips of the two outer bombers if i remember correctly).

I also found that i took less defensive fire if i performed the move in a constant curve instead of lining the target up, takes perfect timing to line it all up though.
Title: One unlucky Bish B-17 mission
Post by: hubsonfire on December 14, 2007, 03:50:21 PM
:lol  Nice AAR.

There are few things that rival catching a mission low, slow, and unaware.