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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on December 14, 2007, 08:45:02 PM
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It's a follow-up to this (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221663)
thread with updates and opinions. Originally it was about Russian CV group maneuvering in Norwegian North Sea oil fields.
Some comments after watching Russian media in between working my bellybutton off and performing some acts of pure idiocy for the whole week:
It's amazing, but I didn't hear a SINGLE WORD about it in mass-media. Only Internet discussions, mostly based on reports from one guy who lives in Norway. I admit that I could miss some news programs on Zvezda TV (owned by Defense Ministry) and I don't buy Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star) newspaper, didn't read it for 20 years since my Father retired.
On the day I posted I have seen news from Norwegian North Sea oil-fields. You know what?! Oil leak on one of the drilling platforms, 6000 tons in the water, biggest ecological disaster in decades! It was the first report in some TV news, sharing first place sometimes with Italian trucker strike and "freezing" (LOL) American Midwest. Putin/Medvedev were already out of top news.
Now an interesting opinion about the Mediterranean voyage from Mikhail Leontiev, pro-Kremlin journalist, our greatest propaganda warrior. He said that there is an opinion that Russian task-force moves there to show the St. Andrew's Flag in case Kosovo declares "independence". Belgrade already said they feel quite eager to destroy that terrorist gang nest if they'll formally separate from Serbia. Nothing will save poor Albanian mob from _true_ ethnic cleansings this time bu another NATO intervention. Seeing a Russian task force from Northern Fleet supported by the whole Black Sea Fleet will probably make Western "hawks" think if they want to face consequences of openly attacking Russian Navy units.
Russia has an interesting position about Kosovo. If West accepts separation of Kosovo, then Russia feels free to recognize Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Osetia, who are eager to join Russian Federation. Today Georgia again threatened Russia (LOL!!!) that it will declare war on us if we do. It's like Armenia declaring war on the US. I bet - American Joint Staff will crap their pants
What happened today is absolutely incredible: EU stated that they'll NOT support Kosovo independence if it isn't mutually agreed by both Serbian and Albanian sides. Know why?! Cyprus, Greece and Spain suddenly supported Serbs! They all have same problems with separatists, and they don't need any stupid precedents. Other EU nations probably still prefer to enjoy Kosovo Albanians selling drugs all over Europe and providing sexual slaves.
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Leontiev's interview in Russian on Echo website: http://echo.msk.ru/programs/personalno/57139/
Second half is about Kosovo.
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have seen nothing of any of that on our"news"
nice to get info form "outside" the "western" world
Please feel free to take some of the heat off of USa for a bit..
We are trying to celebrate baby jesus's Birthday soon
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Except for the most remote demonstration of national power in general, what do manuevers in the North Sea have to do with landlocked Kosovo?
After again doing a little research on the tangled politics of the Kosovo area, it's difficult to imagine any "permanent" solution to the area of Europe that has always been fought over between East and West.
Note that in recent decades disputed areas always seem to be in Europe, not in Asia, i.e., much more Muslim intrusion into Europe than Christian into Asia.
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The oil spill is only an economic disaster, not an environmental one. It's far out in the Norwegian Sea and it will all be cleaned up before it reaches land.
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Originally posted by Halo
Note that in recent decades disputed areas always seem to be in Europe, not in Asia, i.e., much more Muslim intrusion into Europe than Christian into Asia.
That's because our media (and by extension - our populations) do not care much for what happens in Asia, Africa and other places where there are numerous wars going on right now. If someone gets loudmouthed in Kosovo it makes the news because Kosovo is right in our backyard. Who cares if there's a dozen wars in Africa killing thousands every day?
(http://www.africanculturalcenter.org/images/map_big_peop_4_6warpol_t.jpg)
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Isn't norway part of russia anyway?
lazs
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Nope, but isn't America just another British colony? ;)
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yes it is.. they are welcome to come and try to rule us. they might have less luck than the russians will have with norway would be my guess.
lazs
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Nah ... I don't think so. You people could use some real leadership anyhow. C'mon Lazs, sing the God Save the Queen and be a good loyal subject. ;)
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Originally posted by Viking
Nah ... I don't think so. You people could use some real leadership anyhow. C'mon Lazs, sing the God Save the Queen and be a good loyal subject. ;)
I think Lazs might be loosing his mind.
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well.. they are coming over here in record numbers... but hardly an invasion.
"British immigrants have continued to come to the United States during the second half of the 20th century. According to the 2000 U.S. census, 613,000 Americans were born in Britain. In the 1990s British people accounted for about 2 percent of all immigrants to the United States."
lazs
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They just want to see the colonies, that's all. After all you are all British. ;)
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We did steal the Beatles....
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Which Country is it again with all the Dykes and Tulips...Norway or Holland?
Oh wait, Holland has the flowers.
Never mind.
:D
Mac
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American education in action ... you've got to love it. ;)
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Norway is part of greater Germany.
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Originally posted by Viking
The oil spill is only an economic disaster, not an environmental one. It's far out in the Norwegian Sea and it will all be cleaned up before it reaches land.
:rofl :lol :p :D
Mac
Save the Lutefisk!!!!!
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Originally posted by john9001
Norway is part of greater Germany.
Closer to the truth at least.
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Originally posted by AWMac
:rofl :lol :p :D
Mac
Save the Lutefisk!!!!!
What's so funny?
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Originally posted by BiGBMAW
have seen nothing of any of that on our"news"
nice to get info form "outside" the "western" world
Please feel free to take some of the heat off of USa for a bit..
Thanks.
i can read news in two languages and follow Western press using translation sites like inosmi.ru plus Russians living in he West. But I know they may be biased, so I sometimes ask about Western media coverage on some events. I have access to Euronews TV channel and sometimes to BBC World or CNN.
What surprised me was that such operations were usually in every news program, and now it's like in Soviet times - nothing nowhere. When a pair of Su-27s banged USS Kittihawk in Sea of Japan several years ago - it was reported in media, when in 2005 our strategic aviation was training over Indian Ocean (!!!) - it was in all the news. Absolutely nothing now.
In Soviet times we had short-wave radio, now we have Internet.
Originally posted by BiGBMAW
We are trying to celebrate baby jesus's Birthday soon
We celebrate it 13 days later, on Jan 7th, Russian Orthodox Church still lives according to Julian calendar, we switched to Gregorian only in 1918. Jan 7th Gregorian is Dec 24 Julian. "Old New Year" is on Jan 13th.
Just in case you didn't know - we are Christians too, Western churches separated from us in 1054. I am an Atheist, but I was raised in a country with a strong Christian tradition, so I know more about Christianity then most of young people here who are baptised, wear crosses and go to church.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yes it is.. they are welcome to come and try to rule us.
Definition of a conservative extremist: A twenty-first century Tory (Loyalist). Harps about how much they know about the inner workings of the minds of the national forefathers and how much their knowledge of the Constitution is superior to the Supreme Court's but deep down they still wonder what all the hooplah the "King George haters" stirred up was all about and think the whole revolution thing was really an uneccessary hiccup in the natural capitalistic world order of King, country and colonies.
Definition of a liberal extremist: A twenty first century Indian lover/White man hater. May even have a little native American blood in his/her bloodline (or at least claim to). Life was better before the white man came along. If the United States of America had never existed the world would be a better place because all of the things the U.S. interceded in would certainly never have come to pass.
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LOL Boroda, you can read the news in 2 languages?
Why don't you then DO so :D
(Only 2, DUH, I can read the news in 5 langages :t )
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arlo...Is there anyone who thinks throwing out the brits was a bad idea? I don't know any.
lazs
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Any? Maybe the Brits :D
And yet.....