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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Matador on December 17, 2007, 02:39:13 PM
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I think we should get more itallian planes we only have two and they are good planes but we need more. these include : Fiat G.55 Centauro Fighter/ Torpedo Bobmer, Reggiane Re. 2001/5 Fighter , Piaggo P.108 Heavy Bomber, Cant Z.1007 and Br. 20 Medium Bombers. here are some specs for them
Fiat G.55 Centauro
Powerplant 1,457 hp Daimler-Benz DB605H V12 Liquid cooled engine
Max Speed 391 mph
Service Cieling 41,700 ft
Armament 3 Mauser 20mm cannons 2 .50 cal machine guns, 1 2,046lb torpedo or 2 160 kg bombs
Reggiane Re.2001/5
Powerplant same as G.55
Max Speed 390 mph
Service Ceiling 39,400 ft
Armament 3 20mm 1 nose 2 wing and 2 .50 cal . up to 630kg of bombs
Piaggio P.108
Powerplant 4 18 clylinder P. XII 1350 hp engines
Max Speed 420 kmph
Sevice Ceiling 4,300 meter at 420 kmph
Armament 7 500 kg or 250 kg bombs 50.cal in the nose same in ventral 2 7.7mm in ventrals + more that i dont know of
Cant Z.1007
Powerplant 3 1000 hp P.XI radial engines
Max Speed 285 mph
Service Ceiling 25,00 ft
Armament 1,200kg bombs internal and 1,000 external or 2 450 mm 800kg torpedos 3 .50cal. guns and 2 .303 cal. machine guns
Fiat Br.20
Powerplant 2 Fiat A. 80 18 cylinder radial engines
Max Speed 273 mph
Service Ceiling 26,250 ft
Armamet 1,600 kg of bombs and 3 .50 cal. machine gun
These planes would be great in aces high and I hope others share the same opinions
Also what is up with the gunsight gallery part of the aces high web site Ive been playing since march of this year and it is still not up ??
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Yes, more Italian Planes!
Oink
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I have posted somthing like this before, but it is always good to advertise in the wishlist.
GET THE ITALIAN AIRFORCE!!:mad: :furious
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No Sm-79 on your list? :( I'd like to see that the most besides G-55.
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The SM 79 A good transport.
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We need more italian airplanes in this game! good airplane choices! EVERYBODY SUPPORT ITALY!!!
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i would much rater have some soviet air planes then italian
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Originally posted by Bosco123
The SM 79 A good transport.
It was a bomber too. http://www.aviation-history.com/savoia-marchetti/sm79.html
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Respectfully I ask you to make your case. Exactly what would these Italian bombers offer to AH bomber sticks?
Other then smaller bombloads, less defensive armament, and less speed.
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Yes yes and yes to Italian planes.
Especially would like to see SM.79 or Cant Z.1007!
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Respectfully I ask you to make your case. Exactly what would these Italian bombers offer to AH bomber sticks?
Other then smaller bombloads, less defensive armament, and less speed.
More Candy Mountain Missions :D
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Respectfully I ask you to make your case. Exactly what would these Italian bombers offer to AH bomber sticks?
Other then smaller bombloads, less defensive armament, and less speed.
Think about it.By your standard the only planes we should have are Me262,P51,B29 and La7.
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I am all for more Italian planes, lets start with the G55/II.
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I'd really like the G.50. The G.50 and the C.200 were almost the same plane. They had the same armament, the same engine, almost the same shape... So why a G.50 instead of the C.200?
We've already got 2 Macchis already! Let's diversify!
G.55 would be a lovely plane, but don't hold yer breath. We may never get it.
SM.79 and Cant we'll see right around the time we see the He111 and the Betty. In other words, "2 weeks"...
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My vote is still with the Piaggo P.108 for the next Italian plane. It's not a B-29 super nooker but it would give us an other Italian plane as well as an Axis heavy bomber, and we need both. It's two birds with one stone.
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Originally posted by croduh
Think about it.By your standard the only planes we should have are Me262,P51,B29 and La7.
Think about it. Those are four planes Ive never flown.
Think about it some more. You have no idea what I fly or what my standards are. That, and I wasnt asking you anything.
Matador again I ask you respectfully to make your case for these Italian bombers.
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It just bugs me very much, does it matter if the plane was slower or less powerful, they would fill a huge, huuge gap in early plane set we have now.That makes a pretty good case to add them.
Krusty!Yes we need G.50!But at this rate of adding planes, we might just not ever see them.
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Rich46yo, drop the belligerent attitude.
For one, he's right. By your logic, you wouldn't add ANY plane unless it was the fastest and best of the entire war. Well, frankly, we already have those.
People said "Oh the B-25 will be a hangar queen because we have the B-26" --- well the B-25 stats show more than 2x the use of the B-26, so speed and payload are NOT everything. Especially when my C202 can kill 6 P51Ds and Spit16s (as it did Monday night) despite being "slower and weaker" as you might imagine.
And, as a side note, why should matador have to personally answer to you? You've not added anything to this thread. Please keep in mind not everybody is like you (thank god?) and many of us would like to see the plane set better filled with more planes from the different nations. It really helps give you variety, and helps in SEA/AvA/CT setups, which are woefully lacking in most areas of combat because of deficient planesets.
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Krusty drop the arrogant condescending attitude. I dont answer to you and wasnt talking to you so mind your own business.
I will ask Matador one more time. """Respectfully I ask you to make your case. Exactly what would these Italian bombers offer to AH bomber sticks?
Other then smaller bombloads, less defensive armament, and less speed.""""
And for the third time Matador I am asking you respectfully.
Heres my take on it Matador, should you or should you not deign to answer me. There were a lot of airplanes that flew in WW-ll, and a lot of bombers. We get so very few of them in this game. Most of all bombers that, at least in my way of thinking, any new bomber should not only add to the game but also be a model that people will actually fly.
Im not familiar with some of these Italian airplanes so if theres somthing to them then I'm all ears. And nobody every said you "have to" answer to me. Nor did I say anything that either krusty or croduh are babbling about.
I'd like to see some of these so called "stats" that the B-25 is flown more then the 26:lol other then "killed" stats. Either way I was always positive about the 25H, flew it last night, while the 25C is a hangar queen.
Hey Krusty you aint a lawyer are you?
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I'd like to see some of these so called "stats" that the B-25 is flown more then the 26:lol other then "killed" stats. Either way I was always positive about the 25H, flew it last night, while the 25C is a hangar queen.
Actually, I see 25C's a lot. About as much as I see Ki67s, B26's, and Ar234s.
BTW, how are you to talk about how much a plane is flown? Judging from your scores, youve only seen things that are attacking you... and gvs. I dont know quite why youd expect to see a 25C with those things in mind.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Krusty drop the arrogant condescending attitude. I dont answer to you and wasnt talking to you so mind your own business.
You were posting on an open forum that I was reading. Hence, you WERE talking to me (and many others) yet singling out one person for no other reason than you THINK he's wrong on something.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
I will ask Matador one more time. """Respectfully I ask you to make your case. Exactly what would these Italian bombers offer to AH bomber sticks?
Other then smaller bombloads, less defensive armament, and less speed.""""
And for the third time Matador I am asking you respectfully.
And, for the third time, you fail to see the point. The point being *HE* doesn't have to answer your question, but rather YOU have to explain why YOU think only the best bombers should be added.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
Heres my take on it Matador, should you or should you not deign to answer me. There were a lot of airplanes that flew in WW-ll, and a lot of bombers. We get so very few of them in this game. Most of all bombers that, at least in my way of thinking, any new bomber should not only add to the game but also be a model that people will actually fly.
You're saying only the best planes with the best performance should ever be added. We've already replied to you saying we HAVE the best planes with the best performance, for the most part. If you only have P51s and La7s and B24s that's a pretty piss-poor selection and folks will start wanting more. This game is about a lot more than just getting kills in the fastest, bestest, uberest plane around.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
Nor did I say anything that either krusty or croduh are babbling about.
Really? Here's what we are "babbling" about...
"We get so very few of them in this game. Most of all bombers that, at least in my way of thinking, any new bomber should not only add to the game but also be a model that people will actually fly."
You're implying that people will only fly something that is better than what is already in the game. Your tone and what you've typed has shown this to be your feeling on the matter.
Originally posted by Rich46yo
I'd like to see some of these so called "stats" that the B-25 is flown more then the 26:lol other then "killed" stats. Either way I was always positive about the 25H, flew it last night, while the 25C is a hangar queen.
It's right there for you on the HTC webpage.
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/105score/105stats.pl
The B-25H was claimed to be a practical hangar queen also, FYI (before it was made).
Tour 95
B26
1662 kills
B25 c and h combined
3150 kills
Tour 94
b26
2957 kills
B25 c and H combined
7584 kills
And that's just late war. Add early and mid and the B25s gain several hundred more kills.
So, back to the point: You're demanding a response from a guy that doesn't owe you one. You're holding him personally responsible for answering to you for no reason, other than perhaps you think he's in the wrong for suggesting a plane that has been asked for by hundreds (if not thousands) of AH members since day 1 of the game being open to the public.
So yeah, keep asking. Fine with me. Just don't smack your forhead too hard when you realize it makes you look like a jerk.
EDIT: The "since day 1" was reference to the Sm.79 in particular. It's been asked for many many times.
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Im not "demanding" anything from anyone. You aren't "he" I wasnt talking to you! And you got no business opening your yap and starting trouble where none existed. What are you ? His lawyer or just an excitable busybody?
Problem solved. From now on when you open your big mouth, stick your nose in other peoples business, lie and insinuate I said somthing I didn't, and just generally act like an idiot, I wont even "see" your nonsense.
Heckuva tool the "ignore" feature. Promotes good discussion while limiting the impact of babbling troublemakers.
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Off topic.
Krusty you and I may have our differences. The person whom you are now trying to reason with is beyond reasoning with. No amount of data or proof will do. Best to drop it and laugh at his ignorance.
And welcome to bomb****s ignore list. Yur in good company.
On topic
I'd say any new "fighter" AC would be welcomed. We've had new gv and new buff added already.
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Thanks for the tip Bronk, so noted.
The real question is, if you model an open cockpit, will the wind noise be 2x louder on that plane vs other planes?
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Im not "demanding" anything from anyone. You aren't "he" I wasnt talking to you! And you got no business opening your yap and starting trouble where none existed. What are you ? His lawyer or just an excitable busybody?
Problem solved. From now on when you open your big mouth, stick your nose in other peoples business, lie and insinuate I said somthing I didn't, and just generally act like an idiot, I wont even "see" your nonsense.
Heckuva tool the "ignore" feature. Promotes good discussion while limiting the impact of babbling troublemakers.
:rofl :rofl You realize that YOU are the "babbling troublemaker" here, right?
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Krusty check your PM.
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Originally posted by Motherland
:rofl :rofl You realize that YOU are the "babbling troublemaker" here, right?
Careful 762R, you'll get put on ignore! :rofl
Back on topic. I'm in support of anything that fills out the early and mid war planesets, especially in the underrepresented countries. For fighters that means Russia and Japan and for bombers pretty much everyone besides USA. We're already well off with the 1945 uber-ride plane set. Filling in some glaring holes in other areas would allow for more options for FSOs, scenarios, and special events, not to mention some great perk farming!
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Originally posted by TUXC
Careful 762R, you'll get put on ignore! :rofl
Oh noes!
I think I've lost my meaning in life.
:rofl
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Hey, guys comeon, If your going to fight about it do it somewhere else lets try to keep this thread ON-Topic please. i am filling in for Matador he wont be online for several more days, if you have anyquestions feel free to ask, i will be on today but will be gone 19-25th so you can pm me or see me on the game. i have most of the information matador because i gave him refrences and i talked to him at school.
Selino30 (Righteous Vengeance)
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I am so tired of this crap. All I did was ask the man respectfully, "I deliberately used that word", why he thought these airplanes should be modeled and included in the game.
Then I get a couple of the usual boneheads jumping in, saying I said something I didn't, insinuating and starting trouble, and just generally breaking up what could have been a good thread.
It is happening less and less cause I got 10 of these goofs on ignore so hopefully if I keep whittling em down a lot of this stuff will stop cause I am just plain tired of arguing here.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I am so tired of this crap. All I did was ask the man respectfully, "I deliberately used that word", why he thought these airplanes should be modeled and included in the game.
Actually, no you didnt. You were very condescending, which is why Krusty chimed in, and then you got an attitude, which is why the rest of us joined in.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
IIt is happening less and less cause I got 10 of these goofs on ignore so hopefully if I keep whittling em down a lot of this stuff will stop cause I am just plain tired of arguing here.
Make that 11. I'm all too tired by you unbearable attitude, you self-centered hypocrisy and you inability to actually "argue" about anything.
BTW, doesn't it make you wonder that you are the only one that is is announcing to put someone on ignore in about every thread you are in?
That's what we call in German a "Geisterfahrer" - A wrong lane driver believing everyone else is driving in the wrong direction...
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Originally posted by Lusche
Make that 11. I'm all too tired by you unbearable attitude, you self-centered hypocrisy and you inability to actually "argue" about anything.
BTW, doesn't it make you wonder that you are the only one that is is announcing to put someone on ignore in about every thread you are in?
That's what we call in German a "Geisterfahrer" - A wrong lane driver believing everyone else is driving in the wrong direction...
I'll guarantee that he is some sort of authority figure in real life. He is not use to people telling him he is wrong. Since he can't argue his point, he squelches the decenters.
My guess is he's probably law enforcement of some type.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Make that 11. I'm all too tired by you unbearable attitude, you self-centered hypocrisy and you inability to actually "argue" about anything.
BTW, doesn't it make you wonder that you are the only one that is is announcing to put someone on ignore in about every thread you are in?
That's what we call in German a "Geisterfahrer" - A wrong lane driver believing everyone else is driving in the wrong direction...
Yeah am im tired of you too. Your a phony Lusche, at least thats what we call it in America. Even worse your a holier then thou phony.
Maybe you should read the thread before you open your yap. Or, it just doesnt matter. Maybe Krusty is just your little pal. Either way you need to learn to mind your own business. Who the heck are you anyway?
To anybody here who is open minded please read the thread. All I did was ask the guy respectfully why he thought these Italian airplanes should be included.
Hey Lusche? Now I have 11 on ignore.:D Learn to mind your own business and keep your yap shut when you arent involved.
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:rolleyes:
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I am afraid you will soon be able to only see your own posts.
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Make this number 12. I like to argure, but this is far worse than I am. You have completly gon off topic tring to insult our seinor members on this game. You did ask respectfully about the bombers that he had chose. In an open disscusion someone answerd back to you that all you wanted were the ENY5 class. You then got upset and people tried to argue with you but again you tried to degrade them.
I just have to skuzzy this a bit:
See rule #4
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
To anybody here who is open minded
:rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Maybe Krusty is just your little pal. Either way you need to learn to mind your own business. Who the heck are you anyway?
I am
- Someone who thinks you shold at least try to keep discussions a little bit civil
- Someone who is highly amused by internet tough guys
- Someone who thinks every can take part in an open discussion forum. Want your talk private? Keep it to private!
- Someone who has disagreed with da Klown countless times. But somehow I haven't put him on ignore yet... Ain't that strange? ;)
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Welcome to the club Lusche.
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Originally posted by Lusche
- Someone who has disagreed with da Klown countless times. But somehow I haven't put him on ignore yet... Ain't that strange? ;)
YES! damned strange.... but still somehow nice ;)
(pssst! Maybe a certain member in this forum *cough*rich*cough* should take a lesson from you)
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Originally posted by Krusty
YES! damned strange.... but still somehow nice ;)
(pssst! Maybe a certain member in this forum *cough*rich*cough* should take a lesson from you)
Bahh, nobody argues with you more than me. I'd never ignore anyone. Why, because at some point they might have a nice piece of info. Hell sometimes a blind squirrel can find a nut.
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These planes would be good for AH becuase it is something new and the Italians already dont have hardly any planes in the game.
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Originally posted by Rich46yo
Hey Lusche? Now I have 11 on ignore.:D Learn to mind your own business and keep your yap shut when you arent involved.
....:rofl
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Wow I can't belive that this poped up again, Rich46 dude im sorry that I couldn't respond I had cookie issues and I just resolved them. The reason that these planes would be good is just for the point of getting more planes (especially itallian ones), Also B-25s don't have a great payload (would you have not wanted them) as for the SM.79, the P.108 was a Heavy Bomber and had more odrinace than that of a B-17 so, it would be another heavy bomber, The Payload/ Armor factors wouldent matter because we have planes that are not up to the standards of these itallian planes. There it is your answer, a few months late but there it is respectfully there is my answer and I hope you understand,
Matador
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I had a thread a while back asking for the G.50 CR.42 and MC.200. I got the same old "more hangar queens" responses. So I gave up.
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This thread should NEVER have been bumped. Tact would dictate a NEW thread be started, based on all that took place in this one.
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we REALLY dont need that stuff :rolleyes: