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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: daddog on December 17, 2007, 07:28:19 PM
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Gents,
Since we are taking a few weeks off for Friday Squad Operations we have a special event planned,Christmas Over Germany, Friday the 28th of December at 11 PM Eastern using the Winter Rhine terrain.
http://ahevents.org/western-european-theatre/christmas-over-germany.html
See the above link for details. It is cross between Friday Squad Operations and a weekly Snapshot. ROC will be the hosting CM of this event. Walk on players are welcome, but we would like C.O.’s (especially those signed up for Friday Squad Operations) to contact ROC or Sled ahead of time so you can be assigned Allied or Axis and a particular field and aircraft. This will help keep the event balanced. It will run two hours and will allow multiple lives, (at least two, but it will be up to the hosting CM). This is a single frame event.
Show up a bit early as Dux told me the Winter Rhine terrain had some updates and maybe a new download.
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when you do contact us, please let us know how many you expect to have attending for your squad.
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353rd FG will be there and should be pretty close to our FSO commitment of 7-9. We would really love to serve our historical role as P51d escorts if possible.
Thank you CM staff for running this! It's a great Xmas present to fill the void till the next FSO.
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Indeed. WTG CM staff!
Expect JG11 in full FSO strength, (7 - 10) or more. Should be a ton of fun! Also a chance for the 11th to role play. Looking forward to it!
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Is JG11 specifically listed in this one? I briefly glanced at the description on the link, but didn't recall seeing unit names for the Germans.
Just curious, because it's not very often your flight assignment matches your squadron name. :aok
Although, I don't know if expecting 100, 200, or 300 pilots is going to be realistic, the week of Christmas and the weekend of New Years. ;)
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The Army Of Muppets will be there. Numbers of 4-6. We would like to be Axis in 109K4s.
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I would like you guys to do your hunting in the 6.7 sector of the map. Launch from A5, head south, then directly west.
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:lol Good one daddog.
I didn't see any units listed by name Krusty, no, but Winter of '44 saw JG11 on Reich's defence duty. We would like to request the Ta152. Yep, the Ta152 please. :cool:
No need to bring up the Stab/JG11 Ta skin issue again though...:D :aok
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I will contact Spivey about this. We may not be able to get good manpower for this, but we will try.
Regards,
Subway
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Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
I will contact Spivey about this. We may not be able to get good manpower for this, but we will try.
Regards,
Subway
There are no minimum numbers guys. Squads that show will fly under their squad colors that they have in FSO. but you may fly with any number of your pilots that show.
Also there will be walk-ons allowed. and squads that are short may pick up these extra players as they come into the arena. Any extra walk-ons that are not picked up may be assigned to a squad by the CM's in the event, with the squad CO's permission of course.
Near start time we may need some pilots to switch sides to balance the numbers. We may also need some pilots to switch to Bombers so we have enough.
This event is more like a BIG Snapshot, than an FSO.
BTW, you guys pass the word about this event. A lot of people will not see this post.
:aok
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So who will lead each side? Or is it basically a free for all furball?
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613th Is eager to be on Axis commit 7-10.
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VFA 169 Excaliburs expect 10-13 for this one. Would love to go Allied in with a split in the B-17s and fighters.
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After our group did some talking over in our forums we came up with a new ride preference. Sorry for the tad bit of confusion this may have caused.
Squad: Army Of Muppets
Numbers: 7-10
Side: Axis
Ride: Ta152
Please:D
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I have three confirmed from VMF-251. However I just put out the notice today so I may not hear back from everyone for a few days. I'll give you an updated head-count soon as I've got it.
Anyway, our preference is:
Side: Allies
Ride: P-51D
Secondary: P-38L
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I did some dogfighting in the 152 last night.
Total POS. I used to love it (before the airflow recoding) and used to fly it tons. Since the airflow recoding I've only dabbled in it for some bomber hunting, so I hadn't noticed how bad it is.
It's 5x worse than the old mossie was. You can't get into level flight, almost. Even if you GET to level flight, you pull up even gently as a baby, and you will fishtail ALL OVER the ***** place! FORGET freaking pulling angles and dogfighting, it's unstable in almost ALL situations!!!!! I had shots on a spitfire over half a dozen times but could NOT get a kill because I was fighting the plane 100% of the time! Oh, and this was IN trim, not out of trim! (I've got aileron and elevators mapped to axis on my throttle quadrant, easy peasy for me to adjust trim on the fly).
In the end I popped Mr spitfire, but only after closing to 40 yards dead astern, wasting most of my 30mm ammo and half my 20mm, I called it quits and went to land.
Only, wait, that's right! It's so damn unstable you CAN'T LAND it! Sweet, gentle, landing, came down perfectly... I'm using rudder to keep centered, I've pulled back, tail down, lock the wheel, hit the brakes button, and
yup
I teeter out of control, smash both wings into the ground and come to a rest with the shaking stutter that leads me to believe the Fw190 spontaneous explosion bug is about to take place. I tower out barely avoiding a spontaneous explosion, halfway off the runway. Luckily I was a hair more on the runway than off, and it was a safe landing.
Take a 109K4 or a 190D. Leave the crappy 152. It needs to be removed from the game until they FIX the problems they introduced. In AH1 it used to rock. In AH2 it was nerfed but flyable. In post 2.06 airflow recode, it's unflyable and unfightable.
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The 325th should be able to make it with a 7-10 commitment. Best case scenario for us would be P-51 escort as that would be our historical "ride".
We look forward to this as last time was a blast! :aok
P.S. how many posts does it take to get rid of "junior member?" :furious
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Originally posted by CUTT
P.S. how many posts does it take to get rid of "junior member?" :furious
25 or 50, can't remember.
Doesn't mean anything
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Guys, can we keep this thread "on topic" please. I know you guys just want to discuss things that you feel relevant to this event. (well sort of)
But i would like to keep this thread for squads to list their participation, and numbers they expect to attend.
Not trying to sound Bitc*y.
but, Please.....
You guys can start a new thread for this kind of stuff if you want.
BTW, I will look into the 152 issue, if true we may not use it.
Thanks
:)
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JG11 would still like to fly the 152, even with the numerous modeling shortcomings. Please do not remove from setup. Please.
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Sorry sled :(
I'll behave.
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No apologies necessary. :)
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Sled if you do find the Ta152 to be a complete POS like Krusty says please just leave The Muppets original request of k4s.
Note: Ill also do a few test in the 152 see how she handles.
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So as not to clutter, I have started a separate thread:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222173
Regarding issues with the Ta152's current flight model. I'm prone to a little exaggeration, but the majority of it's an accurate depiction of what I've seen lately while flying it.
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I'm going to bump space request up to 6 for VMF-251. I've got 4 yesses already.
Side and ride request (Allies, P-51 preferred, P-38 otherwise) stands the same
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Lads and Ladies, I'll be the Host CM for this little party.
The goal is to simply have fun, snapshot style. The formality of the FSO will benefit whichever side uses it to their advantage, but this is an informal event.
I will be asking that the sides are balanced, and will count on all the high profile leadership type of guys who are showing up to help push the walkons into sides that will benefit the events balance.
We also need 2 squads to put up an overall leader for each side. I see a couple of names bouncing around in here that I'd love to see take the spot, but I won't poke and prod them much...yet... :)
I won't be flying at all, I'll be enjoying a nice warm adult beverage and watching the fun, so anything you guys need during the event just yell and it'll happen.
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Originally posted by ROC
We also need 2 squads to put up an overall leader for each side. I see a couple of names bouncing around in here that I'd love to see take the spot, but I won't poke and prod them much...yet... :)
:noid
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Originally posted by SLED
Guys, can we keep this thread "on topic" please. I know you guys just want to discuss things that you feel relevant to this event. (well sort of)
But i would like to keep this thread for squads to list their participation, and numbers they expect to attend.
Not trying to sound Bitc*y.
but, Please.....
You guys can start a new thread for this kind of stuff if you want.
BTW, I will look into the 152 issue, if true we may not use it.
Thanks
:)
Sorry Sled,
I'll pay more attention to the topic from now on :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by ROC
We also need 2 squads to put up an overall leader for each side. I see a couple of names bouncing around in here that I'd love to see take the spot, but I won't poke and prod them much...yet...
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Originally posted by Husky01
:noid
I think he means you Bearkats :aok but you already knew that
:rofl
Cheers,
gusman44
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I was kinda thinking it might be someone else actually:)
Yuk that 152 is a awful plane. Muppets would like to go with their original request of K4s.
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I'm going to try and keep a casual grasp on the group requests Here (http://webpages.charter.net/rockcobc/)
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613th would like TA-152 as well.
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613th would like TA-152 as well.
Ok.
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ROC you can expect the 332nd Flying Mongrels to have about 8 B-17 pilots and 8 P-51 as escorts. Might be a few more than that. We will launch from what every field you want us to.
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Theres been discussion on our squad boards about what to fly and we are split between k4s and 152s. ROC is it possible to have the muppets split half into K4s and half into 152s?
Army Of Muppets
7-10
Axis
109K4s/Ta152s?
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USMC / 71sqn (Tracerx CO) officially request Allied side with attendance of 12. we can fly both bombers and P-47's.
We are also willing to be on the Axis side if that is necessary.
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Roster Updated (http://webpages.charter.net/rockcobc/)
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Thank you.
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Clowns of Death will be attending with around 7, we request Axis. I'll have you our ride request by Sunday.
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:aok Clowns Added
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Stamp will be leading the Axis Team.
Now, I know that there will be some hesitation to go against him, but I need someone to take the plunge and CO the Allied Side :)
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JV44 requests Axis flying Fw190D
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Put CHAWKS in for whatever side needs us. I expect about 15, close to full strength.
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I've been wanting to try an FSO for some time and this looks like an easy way to see what they're all about.
I'm going to try to make it and will fly [ die] for either side.
Off to remap my Gnu Fighterstick, this default map is fubar!!!
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i will fly in the event but i dont know about my squad i want to be german ta 153 or bf 109-k4:aok
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You can put ~~~FATE~~~ squad in wherever you need. Not certain of the numbers but it looks like it might be a strong show..
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Great Bannor, see you there :)
Those that are ok with floating, bringing strong squads with you, let's see how the arena shakes out tonight and I might impose and ask you to beef up a side.
Thanks guys, should be fun.
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UNFORGIVEN will be there. Request 190/109 duty for the AXIS but will pull fighter escort for Allied if numbers are low. No clue to the numbers yet. Call it between 1-21. :D
:aok
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WTG Virtual Pilots. I had a huge amount of fun tonight. To the Axis fighters following a group of 5 or 6 buffs from Frankfurt south to just north of Stuttgart salute to you. Way to keep your alt and coordinate your runs on the bombers. You managed to get quite a few of our bombers.
Thanks ROC and others who had a part in planning, hosting, and designing this snapshot.
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I was only able to get on for one sortie. All I remember was a lot of 152's and D-9's in 12-10-2 area.
Was fun, see you guys after vacation.
:cool:
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:aok
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ALL. What a great FUN!
It was worth to wake up 5.30 am (Here in Finland)
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great scenario.
got a 1 ping pilot wound first life and dove out of the 30k fight but 1 p47 stuck with me looking for blood. couldnt turn much without blacking out so drug him for kappa. was flying along on auto about to black out and my foot jostled the rudder pedals and knocked autopilot off and i started to climb while blacked out and couldnt turn the autolevel back on. the p47 got 2 more pings on me as i came to and must have hit me in the head because i exploded. would have escaped but i screwed up
seconds later kappa blew him to smithereens though
upped again and killed a few more with my squaddies and they got several kills too. landed safely as well. was great fun. :)
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Wow, 202 People at peak time. More than I expected, I hope you all had fun.
Logs are UP Logs (http://ahevents.org/index.php?Itemid=112&option=com_staticxt)
Congrats to Fester with 12 Kills!!
WTG!!
Now, Scoring, just wait, I'm too wiped to count buildings so I'll score it this weekend.
There WILL be some modifications, there Were some pilots that had issues with air spawns, and being a Semi Formal event I'll be kind.
Great job by all, hope it was fun.
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upped again and killed a few more
Few? What's a Lot? 96? Cripes you got 12 kills, I don't manage that in a TOUR lol
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Was fun!
I was totally pissed in the beginning cause I got stupid and got myself killed my have vented a tad to much hehe. There was also a moment were I had a miscommunication with a person towards the end of the frame but I believe that is all water under the bridge now.
After that first major furball things got better. Our whole squad had a ball and really liked it after we got settled down. This was kind of a test to see how we would all like organized events on a larger scale like this and if we would all like FSO. Seems like everyone one in our group had fun and we are looking forward to the next FSO. :)
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Honestly I had little if any fun. The entire thing was a total cluster f@#% from the get go.
While I've got two Allies in particular I've got gripes against on this scenario, I'm only calling out one because IMO he dropped the ball like it was covered in a healthy dose of WD-40, and he was the last one who SHOULD have had butterfingers.
Where was RatmanCH?
Informal scenario or not, I still expect that when someone volunteers to lead that they be ready to LEAD.
For about 20 minutes I'm sitting on channel trying to get his attention to confirm my squad's rides and what the specific plan of attack was and didn't hear a SINGLE thing from him the entire time I was on. We eventually had to just pick for ourselves and to hell with balancing. NO ONE knew anything more than what was in the Arena Message and what ROC told us (which amounted to following the 2-target plan and that was pretty much it). There was no leadership, no sense of planning, no organization whatsoever. Even Main Arena horde's had a better sense of structure than this.
And what irritates me the most is that after the experience of FSO, I was looking forward to more of that structured gameplay tonight.
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Originally posted by SLED
I was only able to get on for one sortie. All I remember was a lot of 152's and D-9's in 12-10-2 area.
Was fun, see you guys after vacation.
:cool:
Was alot of fun....that was me that you were fighting there at the end in that endless turn, you would of had me if that friendly hadn't shown up to help me out .
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and what ROC told us
I was cringing watching you muddle through that Saxman, once the CO steps up, there is little I can do without taking the job from him, as host, I can't.
He and I did have a good talk afterwards, and I invited him to an upcoming CO Academy that 68Falcon and I have been working towards. This should help out with showing potential COs what's expected.
Hindsight being 20/20 and all, Stampf led the Axis and stepped up last week, we've been trying to get leadership for this in place in advance but no one would take the position for allied.
Now, Snapshots are Always like this, leaders stepping in with T-5 lol FSO are far more formal, so we were Almost there :) had the Axis lined up at least.
I have to admit though, I know it was frustrating but you really did manage your guys well Sax, thank you for that.
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It was.... "okay"... and I say okay because I can stand being gang banged... I can stand being shot down... I can't stand losing a wingtip, flying 3 sectors at 150mph with flaps down, lining up at a22, gear down, slow down, full flaps, and 2 Ta152s HO me. I take hits and miraculously lose no parts. So they turn around (I'm clearly lined up on the field and no way they missed my gear down on that HO, I could see the whites of his eyes), and then shoot me down after bleeding all speed and E to turn and chase me down after 2 more minutes.
*THAT* put a huge frickin' damper on my mood.
Not to mention the 5+ axis cons looking to vulch at a22 while I was in the tower after this distasteful act took place.
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I had fun.
Combat Tour missions should be like this.
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Originally posted by forHIM
WTG Virtual Pilots. I had a huge amount of fun tonight. To the Axis fighters following a group of 5 or 6 buffs from Frankfurt south to just north of Stuttgart salute to you. Way to keep your alt and coordinate your runs on the bombers. You managed to get quite a few of our bombers.
Thanks ROC and others who had a part in planning, hosting, and designing this snapshot.
forHIM
Killuminati were watching you and picking the straggerls first. Then when just three formations left, you huddled up nice and tight. We decided to back off and climb at that point. Then you fellas spread out again. You ended up shooting our oil on 2 of our planes taking us out of the fight. Nice job gunning!
A group of B17s won't survive long unless it has escorts or flies in perfect formation even while gunning.
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rated 0 on the success scale :cry
pegged the meter on the TON-o-fun scale. :D
First attack on a b17 formation in a 152, dove too fast everything shakes for a minute even with throttle at 0. Pass under the formatons and gently pull back on stick praying you have two wings when you come out of this. Still shaking pulling back, buffs now 3k behind you. Turn engine off and pull slightly harder, it reacts and the nose starts rising. Come over the top and slide behind some bombers 'completely distracted' by other fighters. Notice they arent as distracted as I thought and wonder where my right wing went.
Second flight ended again with no K,As asking if anyone had marshmallows, as my flaming wreckage fell to earth.
I even managed to collide with a B17 in one of those flights also, sorry 4440.
Seriously considering trying out FSOs if some squad would put up with this Pudding head. :huh
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I feel for you Sax. Without the predistributed CiC orders and pre distirbuted Staffel orders, it is very difficult to "organize" a "snapshot" like event, with near FSO numbers.
I left most everything in the hands of my area kommanders, utilizing one text channel for Kommand comms. We pretty much just decided to have fun with it. Thanks to the Axis staffel CO's for wading through with me.
Fuzeman - FSO blows that away. No comparison in the organization, immersion level, and 1 life is all the more intense. You will really enjoy FSO, I am sure. You are more than welcome to wing with the 11th JagdGeschwader, anytime sir.
On a personal level, from the cockpit, had a blast, registered regular JG11 pilots took 25 scalps for 4 losses, with 33Vortex collecting 9, and myself with 7!
Thanks again to the CM staff for providing us with something other than the MA during the FSO holiday break. This pilot is ready for the next Operation. Thanks to all who showed.
Fly FSO.
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where is 420ace he stole my kill o was there wind down low because i put my plane into a flat stall coming in for a landing the first bomer group that went in on frankfurt lost all escorts but one so 4 of us were atacking them yes i dont remember seing any k4 or d9 all of us had ta
when are the scores going to be posted
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Originally posted by Saxman
The entire thing was a total cluster f@#% from the get go.
You're not wrong here, definately was disorganized. The group that went for the southern target first did OK given that we managed to maintain a level of escort with the buffs until they hit the first target. After that things got chaotic as the Germans arrived with their second lives and picked them apart... The hardest thing to deal with were the bombers being separated into different groups. Even without coordination, as long as the escort groups know what to escort, and the bombers know where their target is and stick together, you can still have a level of success. Obviously not as much as full coordination though.
Where was RatmanCH?
I agree that we had little in the way of leadership, but given that we didn't have a CO step up until the last minute I don't think we can complain much. If we want to avoid a lack of leadership we need to step up individually and offer it when it's needed. I can't be angry at someone who did step up, into a difficult situation at the last minute and didn't succeed. Could someone else have done a better job with last minute command? Probably, but afterall it's a 1 frame snapshot basically, I'm OK with someone stepping up to get experience with it when it's a smaller event like this.
Either way, I had a great time, but a lot of that was TracerX taking the initiative and leading the escort group well and maintaining tabs on the bomber groups and enemies we were dealing with. We had a lot of success until the 2nd lifers showed up. I can't find too much fault with the snapshot itself that wasn't self-inflicted on us allies by ourselves.
participants, had a blast.
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Originally posted by Citabria
great scenario.
Agreed, great time, had some good fights with the muppets.
got a 1 ping pilot wound first life and dove out of the 30k fight but 1 p47 stuck with me looking for blood. [/B]
I suspect that was me but it certainly wasn't a one ping wound, unless someone else hit you before I hit you. I was surprised you weren't dead outright because I got about 8 centerline sprites. I assumed you were out of the fight and didn't pursue, given that someone else finished you with 2 more pings, I'd say at a minimum it was a 3 ping pilot wound :D
Good times guys
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Sorry you had such a lousy time sax, but I am glad most had a good time.
We (my squad) had a good time. From about 10 minutes west of Frankfurt to about 10 minutes before we landed 109's and 190's were always in visual range. Many taking their time, lining up for a run, shadowing our bombers. Out of our 21 or so bombers only 5 landed. Piece by piece they worked us and cut us down. When I landed with 2 drones I had dead gunners and only my waist gunners had ammo. It was fun. :)
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OK fuzeman, your the 4th CM in as many events to take me down. I am now certain that this is some sort of new guy CM hazing:rofl
Thank You many times over APDrone and Vlkyrie for helping me fumble through my first command. I am sure those who flew in my group saw the rookie in me. If I had opened mouth and inserted foot a week ago this may have been much different I suspect. Pays to be prepared. Sorry guys if I contributed to any of your displeasure of last nights event.
ROC sign me up for that CO class if I can, cause apparently I could use it.
4440
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My biggest problem were people not following orders as far a power management. Several people who will remain nameless just took off and said to hell with the rest of you. And as for maintianing a formation, hell that never happened.
Please give me a my real squad who will follow orders. When you set 37 inches of man people should be able to stay close and not blow by to 6k ahead.
Vlkyrie1
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Originally posted by splitatom
where is 420ace he stole my kill o was there wind down low because i put my plane into a flat stall coming in for a landing the first bomer group that went in on frankfurt lost all escorts but one so 4 of us were atacking them yes i dont remember seing any k4 or d9 all of us had ta
when are the scores going to be posted
can anyone translate this, he clearly says my name but after stole my kill I can't read it anymore...it just doesn't make sense.
:confused:
That was a lot of fun. I got picked because of bad SA first flight but had a loooong running fight with some b17s at the end. all! :aok
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Enjoyed :D
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Originally posted by cbizkit
You're not wrong here, definately was disorganized. The group that went for the southern target first did OK given that we managed to maintain a level of escort with the buffs until they hit the first target. After that things got chaotic as the Germans arrived with their second lives and picked them apart... The hardest thing to deal with were the bombers being separated into different groups. Even without coordination, as long as the escort groups know what to escort, and the bombers know where their target is and stick together, you can still have a level of success. Obviously not as much as full coordination though.
participants, had a blast.
i know me and 3 other guys ignored the fighter ball behind us and found the bomber and blew them apart i shot down 2 before i ran out of ammo and had to go into a landing which i did a sidways landing and spun out on the runway and i lost my second life:cry was there a wind down low
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Originally posted by splitatom
. . .and had to go into a landing which i did a sidways landing and spun out on the runway and i lost my second life:cry was there a wind down low
Fly the 152 a little while in the TA, you'll see that happens sometimes if you're not ready for it.
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i used to fly it prety often in the main arena it never hapened to me befroe
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Originally posted by splitatom
i ran out of ammo and had to go into a landing which i did a sidways landing and spun out on the runway and i lost my second life:cry was there a wind down low
Did you end up off the runway, because even if you wrecked your plane on the runway as long as it said "successfully landing" you still keep your life.
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Originally posted by 4440
Thank You many times over APDrone and Vlkyrie for helping me fumble through my first command. I am sure those who flew in my group saw the rookie in me. If I had opened mouth and inserted foot a week ago this may have been much different I suspect. Pays to be prepared. Sorry guys if I contributed to any of your displeasure of last nights event.
4440
Well, I was able to pop into the event about 15 mins before start and then had to go afk.. got back a couple minutes before the launch and I just figured I'd spawn and form up on whoever was driving. I didn't know who was in command or anything. Just saw the MOTD about what airfields hit what strats ( and had to be corrected to look at bottom of MOTD to see revisions ).
After the launch I saw something about forming up on you, but the last time I saw you, you were 10k below and just leaving icon range. I looked around and saw a lot of orphan formations, so, thinking that keeping altitude was kinda important, I just started trying to get everybody clumped together. I've been commanding bomber formations for years, so it was second nature to herd the cats. Sorry if I overstepped the bounds. Great job by the escorts to get us to the first target. On the way, they advised altering course to avoid the swarm of defenders, so we turned south, allowing the bulk of lead bombers to squeak by.
I do have one vivid recollection of a view towards the back of the formation. Everybody back there was out of icon range but you could see the dots dancing. I saw what looked like 4 dots split-ess from high alt and dive down on what I believe were bombers... line astern.. straight down.. looked like something from a war movie. My thoughts were 'Oh dear, these guys are attacking like the real ones did. '
I do love these things.
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No kills, only used one life, but I had a BLAST!
We had a healthy number of P-47 pilots show up at the last minute, and we managed to get organized over APDrone's bomber group. Thanks to Cbizkit and a few others that helped me keep track of the entire stream. We were engaged by very high Ta-152's before the first target, but we managed to keep the bombers clear. We lost a few in this engagement, and the Ta's and 190's mostly ran from us once their advantage was gone. I lost an elevator, but stayed in the fight to get things organized for the run to the second target. Things got real busy from here, and we were unable to shake off a constant stream of enemy fighters that poured in on the bombers. We got tangled up, and the bombers pushed out ahead of us. I remember breaking free, and finally catching up to the bomber formation that was smothered with 6-7 enemy planes raking them, I could not control the situation as I had 2-3 bandits of my own to worry about. My calls on the radio found only light support that was a long ways away, and it was over by the time the few planes available arrived on the scene. By then it was every man for himself trying to get to the closest friendly base.
I got picked up by a tenacious 190D-9 that followed me for what seemed like 10 minutes as I tried to escape. Slowly decending, I was able to stay barely out of his guns using a notch of flaps to offset the penalty of a missing elevator. Krusty was almost my savior, but I was able to work a HO shot, and the 190 got more of my plane than I got of his. It was too close to the end of the frame that I did not up a new plane, and watched the rest from the tower. Axis, it was a good event.
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Originally posted by forHIM
WTG Virtual Pilots. I had a huge amount of fun tonight. To the Axis fighters following a group of 5 or 6 buffs from Frankfurt south to just north of Stuttgart salute to you. Way to keep your alt and coordinate your runs on the bombers. You managed to get quite a few of our bombers.
Thanks ROC and others who had a part in planning, hosting, and designing this snapshot.
I found these two pics of your group forHIM. Put a smilie on my face when I saw your last 3 formations close up quickly.
(http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/forHIM%20pic%201.jpg) (http://lgmfilms.net/aceshigh/forHIM%20pic%202.jpg)