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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: ColSuave on December 18, 2007, 09:26:09 AM
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I just started flying the p38 and now I can't stop. I'd like to see what everybody else thinks about it, along with any hints/tips to flying it, or if anybody else hates it. Plz tell me what you guys think about it.
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P-38 is a great ride but takes alot of work to master. Best place to ask this is in the training forum. I'd look for any of murders posts. He has links to a lot of great stuff (both overall and 38 specific). Set up a time to work with murder or one of the other trainers in the TA. 38 is a plane that is not easy to learn on your own...
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38G is my baby. That's what I fly. I die a lot in it as it's a big target and folks seem to shoot at the 38s first from what I can tell.
Good fun all around. Turns well, has a good ammo load for a lousy shot like me and looks good :)
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I used to prefer the G to the J/L, not because it was "better" but because it was the early model. Much like flying the hurr1 or the 109E, or the P40, when you've got much better models around. It also was an interesting challenge to fight without WEP.
However, since they added the missing 600+ lbs to the 38G it flies almost identically to the others, so I've lost interest.
Oh well. Just my perception of it. It's a decent plane for sure.
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P-38 sucks and is only flown by those that need the crutch of a second engine.
ack-ack
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It's a superb light bomber, but no match for Col Sanders in a D-9. ;)
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
P-38 sucks and is only flown by those that need the crutch of a second engine.
ack-ack
:rofl
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Originally posted by ColSuave
I just started flying the p38 and now I can't stop. I'd like to see what everybody else thinks about it, along with any hints/tips to flying it, or if anybody else hates it. Plz tell me what you guys think about it.
Big, fat, slow, useless and ugly.
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Furball should know that hijacking a P-38 thread to discuss girlfriends is scandalous.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Widewing
Furball should know that hijacking a P-38 thread to discuss girlfriends is scandalous.
My regards,
Widewing
:rofl :D
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
It's a superb light bomber, but no match for Col Sanders in a D-9. ;)
:lol :lol
Col Sanders....are you...... chicken?
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Originally posted by Krusty
I used to prefer the G to the J/L, not because it was "better" but because it was the early model. Much like flying the hurr1 or the 109E, or the P40, when you've got much better models around. It also was an interesting challenge to fight without WEP.
However, since they added the missing 600+ lbs to the 38G it flies almost identically to the others, so I've lost interest.
Oh well. Just my perception of it. It's a decent plane for sure.
Definately a perception Krusty, cause it works like it used to from what I can tell :)
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I'd fly the P-38G a lot except that I can't see very well through its gunsight -- too dark.
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While the front view on the G seems to be the no. 1 complaint, I have more trouble losing the enemy behind the front canopy bars in the J and L than the G. Once you get used to it, you stop noticing the armored glass.
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38 is a great ride except for the fact that only the worst shots could miss hitting that wingspan.
:D
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
38 is a great ride except for the fact that only the worst shots could miss hitting that wingspan.
:D
...-Gixer
Just gotta know how to 'wiggle'.;)
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i cant fly it if my life depended on it.. seems i cant fly anything after flying only 109's :(
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Platano,
Disable the combat trim on the P-38. Most pilots moving into the 38 have troubles with it because the combat trim works against them in that airplane.
Disable the trim and learn to simply raise / lower the elevator trim when needed. Its not much and most of the times you are fine with the elevator at the center position. Aleirons never need trimming.
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Thank god for nose guns, fowler flaps and counter-rotating engines...
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I started fly the 38 a lot just because of this thread, and I'm surprised that I like it. The gun package is phenomenal. I prefer it to any wing mounted cannons (i'm a lousy shot). It has good fuel range and a respectable top speed. I've come home with only one engine many times now.
Obviously, it's a good e-fighter, but it's not going to dominate in any particular category except deflection shooting. That gun sight is very high above the nose, so you can really put your instantaneous turn rate to use.
If you haven't done it yet, I suggest moving your cockpit view back to reduce the size of the canopy obstructions.:aok
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The 38s will also excel at low speed maneuvers where other planes wobble all over, e.g. in the vertical.
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Originally posted by Anaxogoras
...I've come home with only one engine many times now.
Sounds like you are almost ready for S.A.P.P. Just a couple of things to work on:
1) Coming home with only 1 wing
2) Coming home with only 1 vertical stabilizer
3) Coming home with only 1 flap
4) Coming home with only 1 aileron
5) Coming home with only 1... well you get the picture. Thank god for spare parts.
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38G here.
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The Final SAPP test:
Landing a P38 with 1 wing, 1 flap, no ailerons, 1 rudder and one elevator.... on a CV
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Originally posted by Raptor
The Final SAPP test:
Landing a P38 with 1 wing, 1 flap, no ailerons, 1 rudder and one elevator.... on a CV
Except for the missing wing, i have done that.
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I have done it... with a pilot wound too. blacked out about 100ft from deck so I just hoped for the best and landed it, Corkyjr style.
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Say, one more thing about the 38... She can spin! I had turned the tables on a 51 today that dove on my 6 as I was heading home, and then fell into a ridiculous spin when I tried to pull a deflection shot--> DEAD.:cry Wow, definitely something to be careful of. I haven't found any other aircraft in AH to spin like the 38.
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Yeah, that was the tactic we use to get away from the 38's when we fly axis against them in the FSO's.
Dive and spin, spin, spin, the 38's don't do that so well.
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I find that the 38 loops very very nicely. Now, if I can just get the amount of lead down, lots of unsuspecting planes will fall before my J... hehehe.
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I like hunting low 38s. Just not many around. Seems everytime a new guy trys one some well meaning busybody has to tell him how not to die.
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Originally posted by Anaxogoras
Say, one more thing about the 38... She can spin! I had turned the tables on a 51 today that dove on my 6 as I was heading home, and then fell into a ridiculous spin when I tried to pull a deflection shot--> DEAD.:cry Wow, definitely something to be careful of. I haven't found any other aircraft in AH to spin like the 38.
If you spun a P-38 and it wasn't due to losing an engine or the flaps auto-retracting while pulling Gs in a turn, then you're ham fisted on the controls. You really do have to work at throwing the P-38 into a spin.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by alskahawk
I like hunting low 38s. Just not many around. Seems everytime a new guy trys one some well meaning busybody has to tell him how not to die.
You clearly aren't looking in the right place then :)
I hate wasting time climbing. 2K is normal, 5K is high, 10K is a mistake :)
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the flaps auto-retracting while pulling Gs in a turn
That might very well have caused it. I had been in a vertical fight with a 51D and one notch of flaps down. I entered a low yo-yo type maneuver, nose down, and that's when it happened.