Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Viking on December 19, 2007, 03:02:33 PM
-
It is one of the most used ground attack planes in Aces High. It will also be useful in CT as it was used extensively as a bomber destroyer in 1943 and spring 1944.
The Messerschmitt Bf 110G-2 (and C-4 if you want to).
Anyone else with me on this?
-
I'd like the hurricanes/110s looked at for BOB reasons, so I'm in agreement! :aok
-
Hellcat
-
^--- flies perfectly fine. We've got planes with certain FM ... "issues" ... that would better be "fixed" sooner than the F6F.
-
Yaks and LAs need a facelift too
-
Originally posted by Viking
It is one of the most used ground attack planes in Aces High. It will also be useful in CT as it was used extensively as a bomber destroyer in 1943 and spring 1944.
The Messerschmitt Bf 110G-2 (and C-4 if you want to).
Anyone else with me on this?
I wish they add Me 410, but won't happen for now...
Here's how I think the Bf 110 series should be
Bf 110C-4
* battle of britain version, same engine as Bf 109E. Delete the "b" variant of Bf 110C-4.
Bf 110F
Bf 110G
-
Originally posted by Krusty
^--- flies perfectly fine. We've got planes with certain FM ... "issues" ... that would better be "fixed" sooner than the F6F.
The Hellcat has some serious FM issues too... 20 mph too slow at best altitude, a roll instability that did not exist in the real aircraft... Incorrect ordnance load-out... Shall I go on?
My regards,
Widewing
-
F6F would be a great choice. So would the N1K2-J.
The La-5FN/La-7 are in dire need of a graphics update.
-
Hellcat definitely needs to be able to carry both bombs and DTs at the same time. Something my squad and I'm sure many others would have appreciated in FSO this past month!
Personally, I want the Ta152 to be updated next.
-
Yes on D, all of the above.
-
Shine up the Zero's right along with the F6F.
-
Originally posted by Krusty
^--- flies perfectly fine. We've got planes with certain FM ... "issues" ... that would better be "fixed" sooner than the F6F.
In a vector based flight model, does the actual model of the aircraft affect the flight performance? Seems like the aircraft model is merely eye-candy--the flight model would be a different update. I don't think the more crude, angular curves of the fuselage, for example, matter with respect to the aerodynamic performance of the aircraft.
For example, since its currently in the game with both an old and new version of the aircraft model: does the F4U-1C "fly" differently than the F4U-1A (extra weight for the cannons excepted)?
-
F6F needs to be first. :D
-
Show some love for the Hellcat!!
:p
-
Originally posted by Widewing
The Hellcat has some serious FM issues too... 20 mph too slow at best altitude, a roll instability that did not exist in the real aircraft... Incorrect ordnance load-out... Shall I go on?
My regards,
Widewing
ya like you could have the 500ib with a droptank
-
Stoney, word on the grapevine is that HTC redo planes one at a time, as totaly as they can. The 190s were updated in physics and graphics, but the 152 wasn't. I'd say the F4Us are the same.
I don't think planes' 3D model and FM have any corelation.
-
Orriginal post for the 110 is my vote. Then the A20 and the F6F then the Ostwind, then the C205, then the ...
-
Yak's and LA's
...-Gixer
-
Stoney, the two (FM and graphic model) are not completely related, as you can update the FM and not the graphics. However, as HTC is redoing the old models they are upgrading the raher buggy FMs to better FM standards. I would guess this includes more points on the wing where airflow is sampled. If you recall pics of the new Corsair stall patterns some time back, I think they go through all of that and produce a much more competent flight model than the old AH1 beta days could provide.
-
I think an argument could definitely be made for the 110, F6F, and Zero. Maybe even the Yak's and La 5's.
-
Yak9-T could use a facelift. 9-U doesn't need it as much, but it could use one as well. TA-152 needs some updating, along with Hellcat and Zeke.
Boston as well.
Regards,
Subway
-
You know, I understand it's low priority, but I'd REALLY love to see the lancasters redone. Not only to allow us to properly skin it (with the 1 skin used on every plane ever built :rolleyes: ) but because the damage model soaks up 30mms right now, and it never catches fire. I'd like to see it redone so that the damage is applied properly.
I wouldn't care if we got the 4x .303 tail turret as some have asked, or if we stick with the 2x .50cals. The 50s are better (it's a fact) but the .303s would be cooler.
-
<---- :aok
-
^
:aok :aok
-
Originally posted by Gixer
LA's
...-Gixer
noobs dont need a good looking hoe wagon:D
and this is what the noobs are going to do:cry
-
Lavochkins please.................
-
since it's one of my two main rides I'll selfishly add my vote for the hellcat to be updated. Throw some cannons on it while you're at it pls pls k thx. :D
-
No cannons on the F6F please. The three cannon La-7 is bad enough, we don't need rare loadouts being used as the most common (by far) in the game.
Same response to the requests for four cannon Spitfires. No.
But definately update the F6F's graphics and flight model. The N1K2-J's as well (autoflaps if possible).
-
I wouldn't mind perk loadouts... It would be awesome in CT.
-
The F6F has been on this type of list for a LOOONG time as far as i know. It deserves to be the last one fixed and placed on HTC's two more weeks list ASAp so we know not to expect it anytime soon
-
Update the JU-87 for more of an anti-tank role
-
I'm not sure, but I once saw a post stating that the Tempest's flaps could actually open up at around 220 mph? I forget.
But that would be quite useful in a dogfight for the Temps... hopefully they won't run as much if they get upgraded with such flaps.
-
MiG-3! MiG-3!
-
Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
Yak9-T could use a facelift. 9-U doesn't need it as much, but it could use one as well. TA-152 needs some updating, along with Hellcat and Zeke.
Boston as well.
Regards,
Subway
I agree strongly with the Yaks,Hellcat and Zeke but the Boston? When was the last time you ever saw a Boston in the MA?
...-Gixer
-
Originally posted by Krusty
I'd like the hurricanes/110s looked at for BOB reasons, so I'm in agreement! :aok
how could you forget the 109 and spitfire and i would like to see the fm2 re modled along with the yak many of the f-6 had the inside pair of 50 exchanged for 20mm m1or m2 i dont remember but they were used comenly
-
Originally posted by Gixer
I agree strongly with the Yaks,Hellcat and Zeke but the Boston? When was the last time you ever saw a Boston in the MA?
...-Gixer
the boston is rairly used but whenit is used it is for killing gv because it can out run all of the super early war air craft it goes 300mph at like sea level that makes it the 2 fastest bomber tied with the a-20 which is the same thing the fastest being the only perked bomber the blitz which needs a update and the beriscope sight needs to work that is the thing that sticks down in the cotpit
-
Originally posted by splitatom
how could you forget the 109 and spitfire
Already done...
-
Well, I dunno, I'm biased, but I can't understand why the Mossie got half done. Still wants for speed, displayed boost is wrong, combined drops and rockets loadout not available, yadda yadda yadda.
CT better be da **** when it comes out, seems like a lotta effort for teh nada right now - anyone have the inside scoop?
-
I'm sure they'll update it soon. My belief is that HTC fixed the CoG issue simply because it was something important to fix which they could do with the next update. They're leaving the polishing up a little later and are likely prioritizing on the other objectives.
I'm thinking 110's and Hellcats need it most. Also, let's add the P-38H :D
Splitatom, I'm not one to point out anything but it's difficult to read what you're saying without periods. Just take a little more time and you'll get there; it'll help. I was once posting babble like that but really, it was dificult to get my thoughts across. :aok
-
Originally posted by SgtPappy
Splitatom, I'm not one to point out anything but it's difficult to read what you're saying without periods. Just take a little more time and you'll get there; it'll help. I was once posting babble like that but really, it was dificult to get my thoughts across. :aok
It gives the impression that his brains are an uncoordinated soup of jelly.. Reading his posts makes your eyes swim in the void of grammar and punctuation.
-
Originally posted by Widewing
The Hellcat has some serious FM issues too... 20 mph too slow at best altitude, a roll instability that did not exist in the real aircraft... Incorrect ordnance load-out... Shall I go on?
On the graphics side, apart from being one of the oldest graphical models in the game, it has a wrong proportion front arch and vertical bar in the cockpit. The arch needs to be higher and the vertical bar nearly zero length. This issue was raised years ago, still in AH1 (by Fester IIRC) and hasn't been fixed.
I am currently on vacation from the game and HTC always cut my vacations short by releasing something cool, so I have a good feeling about this.
-
Forget historical accuracy. I want a Zero with Fw190A8 guns, IL2 durablilty and Mustang speed.
-
Originally posted by alskahawk
Forget historical accuracy. I want a Zero with Fw190A8 guns, IL2 durablilty and Mustang speed.
It's called a Tempest
...-Gixer
-
Gixer, I think Boston might have one of, if not THE oldest flight in the game.
I want my Yak redone!!!
-
Oldest flight what?
-
Originally posted by Gixer
It's called a Tempest
...-Gixer
Pfft if the Tempest turned like a Zero... or even a Spitfire I'd hunt them down as much as humanly possible. They're usually runners, though there are some who fly them in an energy fight instead of a running one... last time I played back in the H2H.
-
Originally posted by splitatom
the boston is rairly used but whenit is used it is for killing gv because it can out run all of the super early war air craft it goes 300mph at like sea level that makes it the 2 fastest bomber tied with the a-20 which is the same thing the fastest being the only perked bomber the blitz which needs a update and the beriscope sight needs to work that is the thing that sticks down in the cotpit
The Ki67 is faster. Bostons are midnight snacks. Easy kills.
-
Originally posted by SgtPappy
Pfft if the Tempest turned like a Zero... or even a Spitfire I'd hunt them down as much as humanly possible. They're usually runners, though there are some who fly them in an energy fight instead of a running one... last time I played back in the H2H.
H2H What's that? :lol
Temp can fight and win just about any type of fight it likes. True it does have it's fair share of runners like any fast ride but when you come across one combined with a good stick plus 4 hispanos it's usually all over pretty quick.
Something like a Zero or Dweebfire doesn't stand a chance. Only the La7 under 10k has a remote chance of upsetting your day.
...-Gixer
-
Originally posted by Masherbrum
The Ki67 is faster. Bostons are midnight snacks. Easy kills.
As they were in real life. Relatively fragile, small bombload, terrible defensive armamernt. Its only saving grace is speed.
But that doesn't change the fact that it and the A-20 are both in serious need of a facelift. :D
-
Yaks,
-
What is wrong with the Yaks?
-
no vodka holder, not historically accurate.
-
Originally posted by kozhedub
What is wrong with the Yaks?
Climb into a 109 or another recently updated plane and then into a Yak. Notice anything?
Like that the Yak's cockpit looks like crap?
-
Originally posted by Geary420
Already done...
they have updated the model of aircraft not the grafics and the yak does need an upgrade and the yak should have a 23mm canon not 20mm
-
Ok, I'm sorry- but splitatom, I have to intoduce you to a couple friends of mine.
Say hello to , and . These are the comma and period. The comma (,) is quite useful for indicating a sentence break (like a pause in speach) or slight change of topic within the same sentence. The period (.), helpful little fella that he is, indicates the end of a sentence, which itself indicates the end of a though or statement.
Used together, these helpful little critters help to prevent what we like to call "run-on sentences", which make you look like an uneducated moron and cause others to completely ignore and/or disregard what you are trying to say.
You may also want to research an interesting phenomenon we refer to as "capitalization", in which certain words, usually at the start of a sentence (which admittedly is a concept you have yet to grasp), but also proper names (usually people and places, but also some things) have the first letter of their name capitalized. To use this function, you simply hold down the SHIFT (see, I did it for that whole word as an example!) key while pressing the letter you would like to capitalize.
The shift key also works for those little floating things above the numbers and some of the punctiation keys on the keyboard. I am referring specifically to ! (which is above the 1) and ? (which is above the /). These are the exclamation mark (!) and the question mark (?). They are used to indicate surprise (or excitement) in the case of the exclamation mark, and a question (get it?) in the case of a question mark. While the question marks use is self explanatory, the exclamation point is often abused and misused (especially by gamers), so I will leave the discovery of its myriad applications up to you. Its a fun and exciting journey, so be sure to pack a lunch!
We now return to your regularly scheduled "fix my ugly plane" whining match.
-
Originally posted by Motherland
Climb into a 109 or another recently updated plane and then into a Yak. Notice anything?
Like that the Yak's cockpit looks like crap?
If the Yak's one is crap then what are the C.202/C.205's ones? :huh
-
Originally posted by gatt
If the Yak's one is crap then what are the C.202/C.205's ones? :huh
Problem with all the AH1 cockpits is they look as if their pulled out of the early 90's. Which for new players is a turnoff they look at the cockpits and graphics overall and leave before they realise how good the stronger points of the game are, which aren't and never have been graphics.
Yes the Yak is ugly, but luckly your usually 3 deep in cons to care about how dials look. :D
...-Gixer
-
Originally posted by Treize69
Ok, I'm sorry- but splitatom, I have to intoduce you to a couple friends of mine.
Say hello to , and . These are the comma and period. The comma (,) is quite useful for indicating a sentence break (like a pause in speach) or slight change of topic within the same sentence. The period (.), helpful little fella that he is, indicates the end of a sentence, which itself indicates the end of a though or statement.
Used together, these helpful little critters help to prevent what we like to call "run-on sentences", which make you look like an uneducated moron and cause others to completely ignore and/or disregard what you are trying to say.
You may also want to research an interesting phenomenon we refer to as "capitalization", in which certain words, usually at the start of a sentence (which admittedly is a concept you have yet to grasp), but also proper names (usually people and places, but also some things) have the first letter of their name capitalized. To use this function, you simply hold down the SHIFT (see, I did it for that whole word as an example!) key while pressing the letter you would like to capitalize.
The shift key also works for those little floating things above the numbers and some of the punctiation keys on the keyboard. I am referring specifically to ! (which is above the 1) and ? (which is above the /). These are the exclamation mark (!) and the question mark (?). They are used to indicate surprise (or excitement) in the case of the exclamation mark, and a question (get it?) in the case of a question mark. While the question marks use is self explanatory, the exclamation point is often abused and misused (especially by gamers), so I will leave the discovery of its myriad applications up to you. Its a fun and exciting journey, so be sure to pack a lunch!
We now return to your regularly scheduled "fix my ugly plane" whining match.
i dont want anymore spelling and gramer critism i get enough of it from my teachers
-
Apparently not.
-
Perhaps you should take the criticism on board and take steps to improve?
English is the most important subject you will learn at school. No matter how smart you are in other areas if you can't effectively communicate your ideas you won't be heard.
Putting in a little extra effort at school and even on forums such as this will pay a big dividend. Think about it, if you sit on this forum for an hour and read and type appropriate responses..... you're doing some of your English homework, aren't you? You're reading and writing (as such) so if you take the time to check what you're writing, spell things correctly and try to use proper punctuation and grammar it will become habit.
However, if you continue to not care and just hammer away at your keyboard you'll always have to think about your writing when it comes to the crunch. Why not get into a good habit now so that you can always fire out a decent bit of writing when you need to?
Bugger-all effort for a big return, mate. Give it some thought.
-
huh.
-
Originally posted by brady
huh.
Hi Brady, long time :)
-
Originally posted by Gixer
Problem with all the AH1 cockpits is they look as if their pulled out of the early 90's. Which for new players is a turnoff they look at the cockpits and graphics overall and leave before they realise how good the stronger points of the game are, which aren't and never have been graphics.
Yes the Yak is ugly, but luckly your usually 3 deep in cons to care about how dials look. :D
...-Gixer
Hello Gixer,
old graphics keeps away not only new players but even old hands. Many friends of mine would like to fly online, dont have another good sim, but are tired of AH2 old graphic style. You cant blame them. I've been playing AH since 1999 first beta and I know its engine is probably the best but, gawd, the dress is awuful! And is getting more and more awful year after year.
-
Originally posted by gatt
Hello Gixer,
old graphics keeps away not only new players but even old hands. Many friends of mine would like to fly online, dont have another good sim, but are tired of AH2 old graphic style. You cant blame them. I've been playing AH since 1999 first beta and I know its engine is probably the best but, gawd, the dress is awuful! And is getting more and more awful year after year.
Yes I agree there hasn't been any great leaps and bounds from the 90's especially if you fire up and go for a joy ride in FSX. For as long as I can remember it's always looked very dated. But again luckly there is the odd good fight and plenty of mates to keep you coming back.
...-Gixer
-
Originally posted by Motherland
Climb into a 109 or another recently updated plane and then into a Yak. Notice anything?
Like that the Yak's cockpit looks like crap?
I was flying Bf 109s last night and jumped into a Yak 9u and...yea.. you're right.
-
The Yak9-U is my baby.
But it needs some upgrading. A nice, clean cockpit that flows would be great. Damage modeling seems pretty good though, IMHO.
Please, HTC, add a vodka bottle under the seat. :D
9-T needs a cockpit remake as well.
And while your at it, give us a Yak-3 and a Mig-1/3. :noid
-
Originally posted by SuBWaYCH
The Yak9-U is my baby.
Willi Messerschmitt>Alexander Yakovlev
:D
-
nahhh, my Yaks will pawnz your one-oh-nines!!!
-
I notice now the interior of the Lavochkins look bad also.
The VVS aircraft desperately need new interiors, they are screaming for Soviet gauges and cyrillic characters littering the cockpit.
-
English is the most important subject you will learn at school. No matter how smart you are in other areas if you can't effectively communicate your ideas you won't be heard.
Well said! Splitatom, when you get to the working world people will have a knee-jerk reaction if you cannot write effectively and clearly. For example, if I see a resume with any spelling or grammatical mistakes, they don't get an interview. I also see plenty of people with degrees in biology, chemistry, or some other science, who cannot write worth a damn because they never thought it was important--and it hurts them professionally.
Sorry for the digression from the main topic, but we're doing you a big favor. We will confront you with this every time you make a post without commas, periods, and capitals.
-
Originally posted by kozhedub
I notice now the interior of the Lavochkins look bad also.
The VVS aircraft desperately need new interiors, they are screaming for Soviet gauges and cyrillic characters littering the cockpit.
Agreed the La7 cockpit is actually all wrong! (well the dash anyway)
It was not the same as the La5FN's
and lavochkins did not have metal frames all around the armoured front glass
-
Me 110 is a must for combat tour.:aok
-
Originally posted by Hazzer
Me 110 is a must for combat tour.:aok
For what now?? :confused:
-
Originally posted by Anaxogoras
Well said! Splitatom, when you get to the working world people will have a knee-jerk reaction if you cannot write effectively and clearly. For example, if I see a resume with any spelling or grammatical mistakes, they don't get an interview. I also see plenty of people with degrees in biology, chemistry, or some other science, who cannot write worth a damn because they never thought it was important--and it hurts them professionally.
Sorry for the digression from the main topic, but we're doing you a big favor. We will confront you with this every time you make a post without commas, periods, and capitals.
Amen.
-
Since I started flying fighters. f you can call it that, Ive noticed the Yaks to be really fine performers. Can someone here tell me about them? Thanks.
-
Originally posted by Rich46yo
Since I started flying fighters. f you can call it that, Ive noticed the Yaks to be really fine performers. Can someone here tell me about them? Thanks.
Read Soda's Evaluation on the Yak-9U sums it up very well. It's a excellent aircraft and don't let the perceived lack of ammo keep you from enjoying it.
...-Gixer