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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Benny Moore on December 20, 2007, 10:33:50 PM
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So, what exactly would you call this maneuver (other than a mess)? It's a tumble of some sort. It's part hammerhead, part flat spin, and it's almost got a bit of lomcevak in it. It's sloppy, of course, but can anyone decide what this maneuver should be called, or what maneuver it's closest to?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDXRKB17s-Q
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Can you perform this at will or was this a fluke. looked pretty kewl to me
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It's very easily replicated, much more easily than a true hammerhead. At any time when your airplane is heading directly upwards, put the stick fully back and to one side and give full opposite rudder. Hold it there until your airplane stops ascending and begins descending. Power remains at full throughout the maneuver.
I would have held it in there for longer, but I was at very low altitude. Ordinarily, I allow the tumble to develop into a normal spin as the airplane starts decending. Note that how fast you are going when you initiate the maneuver determines how flat the spin is and several other aesthetic factors. As I said, I did it very sloppily. A good aerobatic pilot could make this much more impressive and also exit the maneuver in the same direction in which he entered it.
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looks like a snap/flick roll to me.
ack-ack
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looks like another day in the park to me, good flyin!:aok
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Looks like a zoom climb to vertical with an aileron roll with too much back stick that results in a flip over stall ... doubt it has an official name.
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Id say zoom climb to snap roll to hammerhead
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I'd name it yourself. My suggestion would be the "WTF was that?" as in this would be the most likely reaction of your opponent.
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That would be a maneuver that Corky does just before he augers into the trees.:D
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Sweet.
When are you going to pony up the $15 and join the rest of us Benny?
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You could name it the Fosberry flop after Rodney Dangerfields Dive. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Acending spiral into a left flop. Can be done either left or right. Depending on what the con behind me is doing I may back off the throttle to differing degrees also. Key is determing directional status to your intended target after the flop. I may at that time back throttles to idle or go full out.
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Good grief, you pull this in combat? This isn't a spiral climb; the aircraft is fully stalled from the initiation of the tumble until the recovery.
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It is a controlled maneuver............
I fly 38s almost exclusively..... I die regularly but kill enough to offset the deaths well. :aok Most times I am in the trees knife fighting, sometimes you may see me with alt but rarely.
As for Dan augering he usually only augers on the 80ths Auger On Shuffler night.... where as I am landing 8 or 9 38s try to see who can crash closest... :D
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Yes, but its only function when a bandit's on your tail is to present him with a nice cross-section. It's even conveniently rotating so that he can easily maximize area coverage.
I suppose if you were good enough, you could influence your nose to briefly pass over your foe in the spin so that you could make a quick burst, but I could never do that.
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I'm only decent at best. This maneuver has a place and time as does any other maneuver. Normally I would not perform this with a con right on my six... but then again I would not bet on it if I were you..... ;) I like to look at my adversary as marking up a chalkboard with what he will do if I do this or if I do that.... throw in something to surprise him from time to time and you erase his chalkboard long enough for him to get lead poisoning.
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It may work for you, but personally I wouldn't dream of doing it in combat. It's simply my favorite aerobatic maneuver to do for fun. I've always been very fond of deliberate stalls and spins. I'm hoping someone with better aerobatic skills will post a track of the maneuver being done with a much flatter spin. I suppose I could work at it for a long time and do it, but it still hurts to hold a joystick for more than a few minutes.