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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chairboy on December 21, 2007, 08:00:22 PM
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Read another questionable tazer story today. A woman at a Best Buy was rude and yelled at a police officer and got tazed for it. That seems to be a pretty big overreaction, what do y'all think? First, I agree that she shouldn't have yelled, but that's not a good reason to use potentially deadly force:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Florida_cop_Tasers_female_shopping_for_1221.html
Bonus: Video!
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Maybe there's some eroticism going on here. I'm beginning to feel left out.
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:noid
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I think we need to petition Skuzzy for a taze emoticon.
I googled but this was the closest I found: (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/TexasFred/Emoticons/PoliceMan.gif)
Some people just need tazing.
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(http://chat.anncoulter.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/035.gif)
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She resisted arrest and pulled away from the officer when the officer attempted to place her under arrest.
A taser is the preferred "next step". It used to be mace, or a baton to the shins, or physically taking the suspect down. In today's litigious society, the taser is used first.
I am sure if we get a video with audio you can hear the suspect scream "Don't tase me Ho!". :D
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why was the cop trying to arrest her?
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
She resisted arrest and pulled away from the officer when the officer attempted to place her under arrest.
A taser is the preferred "next step". It used to be mace, or a baton to the shins, or physically taking the suspect down. In today's litigious society, the taser is used first.
I am sure if we get a video with audio you can hear the suspect scream "Don't tase me Ho!". :D
^^^^^^^^^^
What he said....
"dont tase me ho":rofl :lol :rofl :D :aok
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I'll see your tazed for yelling and raise you a tazed for taking a bath in your own home.
"Donnell Williams had just gotten out of the bath tub, wearing only a towel around his waist, when he turned the corner to see guns pointing right at him.
'I ain't never been so scared,' says Williams.
Police forced entry into Williams home while responding to a shooting, but it turned out to be a false call. They had no idea at the time the call wasn't real and that Williams is hearing impaired. Without his hearing aid he is basically deaf.
'I kept going to my ear yelling that I was scared. I can't hear! I can't hear!'
Officers were worried about their own safety because at the time it appeared Williams was refusing to obey their commands to show his hands. That's when they shot him with a Taser."
Officers with guns drawn were worried about their safety from a naked, deaf man. Classic.
link (http://www.kwch.com/Global/story.asp?s=7446220)
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The story says that the police chief states that the officer did the right thing in Tazing the woman for cursing and yelling at the officer. That's worrisome. For once, I agree with the A.C.L.U. When did cursing and yelling become grounds for arrest? When did it become justification for using physical force? The U.S.A. is slowly but surely becoming a police state, and that's a bad thing.
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
When did cursing and yelling become grounds for arrest? When did it become justification for using physical force?The U.S.A. is slowly but surely becoming a police state, and that's a bad thing.
Not just physical force, but potentially lethal physical force.
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Well if someone is cursing and yelling and disturbing the peace. Aren't there laws against both of those? If so, if she refused to stop then she got what she deserved.
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Can we taze someone for cursing and yelling and disturbing the peace on the BBS?
PLEEEASE?
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Obey all police orders and you should be ok.
shamus
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But then again I worked a case not too long ago that resulted in the leo getting 17 years for multiple CSC1's
shamus
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... Whatever that means.
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...criminal sexual contact
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
The story says that the police chief states that the officer did the right thing in Tazing the woman for cursing and yelling at the officer. That's worrisome. For once, I agree with the A.C.L.U. When did cursing and yelling become grounds for arrest? When did it become justification for using physical force? The U.S.A. is slowly but surely becoming a police state, and that's a bad thing.
Most places call it disorderly conduct. The justification for the use of force is the failure to submit to arrest. It is that simple.
And at this time, contrary to postings, Tasers are not considered "potential deadly force". They are on the low end of the use of force continuum, at basically the same level of pepper spray.
Follow the directions of Police Officers and you should be fine. Have your day in court. Fighting on the street, in a store, on a campus about the unjust nature of your arrest, will most likely lead to your complaininig about the unjust nature of the force used upon you while you were being unjustly arrested:aok :lol
BTW: for future reference you should probably NEVER agree with the ACLU:lol
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Originally posted by sgt203
BTW: for future reference you should probably NEVER agree with the ACLU:lol
The ACLU does screw up blind obedience at times :)
shamus
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protect and to serve.
exactly that and nothing more.
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This can be simplified to a single point. You perform a fast action like she did, there will be a fast reaction. It was not an over reaction imho. It may have been an erroneous reaction, but due to the fast initial action of the woman, there was no time to react any other way. Second nature if you will. Looks like the police woman did right, though the other woman probably shouldn't be charged for anything. She was having a bad day it seems.
Les
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
When did cursing and yelling become grounds for arrest? The U.S.A. is slowly but surely becoming a police state, and that's a bad thing.
Disorderly conduct... this is an age old law.... and you know it. I watched the video, she was clearly disorderly.
When did it become justification for using physical force?
Attempt to mislead: DENIED. She was not tazed for yelling. The officer attempted to put her under arrest and she resisted.... TAZE
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Worried for their own safety, think of the children, ect.
(http://www.endofmedia.com/graphics/ed-209.JPG)
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Beeland was refusing an officer's orders, and using a Taser avoided use of other weapons, he said.
That will teach her to make a phone call.
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In the past, I believe, it would have made big headlines had the cops used a batton on a yelling woman. Somehow tazer is thought to be a lesser weapon than batton.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc