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What WorldWar 2 fighter do you think is most known through out the world or throught it's country of origan.
*Is not responsible of anything i spell wrong*
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I'd say the P-51.
And vans, who is responsible for things you spell wrong? :confused:
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http://www.aviation-history.com/polikarpov/i16.html
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Originally posted by Donzo
vans, who is responsible for things you spell wrong? :confused:
The MAN man.....
I dont know i know i spell bad and i dont really feel like spell checking it.
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I would say.
American:Fighter:
P51
German:Fighter:
109's (the 190 were not around alot during early years of the war)
Russian:Fighter:
Mig's but since we dont have them in the game Yaks.
Japanese:Fighter
Zero.
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Spitfire.
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Spitfire.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
The MAN man.....
I dont know i know i spell bad and i dont really feel like spell checking it.
What, are you trying to suck up to HiTech or something?
You think he'll look the other way this year when you shoot him down in his sled Christmas eve because your spelling is worse than his? :rofl
(pssst...I heard he uses FireFox now and it has a built-in spell checker....you might want to check it out. :D )
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Spitfire.
Even non-aviation geeks have heard that name.
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i'm amazed anyone has considered anything BUT the spit, it's iconic.
especially in commonwealth provinces around the world that were still part of the empire back then and were partners in britain's war effort. african countries and india for example.
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The F4U, hands down.
what other plane had a tv show.
long live the Black Sheep
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Worldwide?
Spitfire.
US?
P-51D
Edit to add:
UK?
Spitfire.
Germany?
Bf109
Japan?
Zero
Russia?
Yak-9
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Originally posted by Donzo
What, are you trying to suck up to HiTech or something?
You think he'll look the other way this year when you shoot him down in his sled Christmas eve because your spelling is worse than his? :rofl
(pssst...I heard he uses FireFox now and it has a built-in spell checker....you might want to check it out. :D )
:rofl Tag him for me Vans! Shoot the fat man downz! :aok
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spit.
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Clearly the Fairey Fulmar
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Originally posted by Golfer
Spitfire.
I was thinking of that the other day. Why is the Spitfire known better than the Hurricane? The Hurricane actually had more kills in the war and a much better Kill/death ratio. IMO it's a much better aircraft aswell, yet you don't hear much about it. It's always the Spitfire in regards to RAF aircraft.
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But was the hurricane around the spitfire ever was produced?
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
But was the hurricane around the spitfire ever was produced?
Wow. :confused:
I cannot even being to understand what it is you are trying to ask.
Spelling is the least of your problems.
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Originally posted by crockett
I was thinking of that the other day. Why is the Spitfire known better than the Hurricane?
- Probably most important: War time propaganda on both sides of the channel
- Spitfire went on to fight in more prominent roles throughout the war than the Hurricane
Originally posted by crockett
IMO it's a much better aircraft aswell, yet you don't hear much about it
- The Spitfire's part in early war may have been exaggerated, but it's not entirely true that the Hurri was the "better plane". It's only in AH2 ;)
It was not quickly replaced by the Spit in the day fighter role without a reason.
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Originally posted by Fulmar
Clearly the Fairey Fulmar
:lol
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F4U!
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Originally posted by Lusche
- The Spitfire's part in early war may have been exaggerated, but it's not entirely true that the Hurri was the "better plane". It's only in AH2 ;)
It was not quickly replaced by the Spit in the day fighter role without a reason.
Well hey we all know after playing AH2 that the Hurricane's wings aren't held on by duct tape and bubble gum much like the Spit's wings are. :lol
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Originally posted by crockett
Well hey we all know after playing AH2 that the Hurricane's wings aren't held on by duct tape and bubble gum much like the Spit's wings are. :lol
Spit's wings are like lego's they pop right off.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
The MAN man.....
I dont know i know i spell bad and i dont really feel like spell checking it.
Why don't you just use Firefox then, it has a built in spell check that works just like the spell check in MS Word. I find it quite useful myself.
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The Brewster!
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Spitfire.
Mustang and 109 probably a close second.
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I would have to say the Stuka was the most well known in Europe as the Lightning war swept the continent. Thos dive sirens were terror weapons. But since that's not a fighter, the 109 was built in greater numbers than any other plane in the war.
Spitfire for the Brits.
Mustang for the Yanks.
Zeke for Japan.
Overall....probably the 109 because, if you think about it, every country in the war faced it at some point.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
But was the hurricane around the spitfire ever was produced?
1. Lazy grammar aside in your first post.
2. You probably meant "around when the..."
3. You SHOULD know the answer to this one, as you have often self-proclaimed to be a "hot shot in AH."
4. Stop being so lazy, you won't like the results in life.
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I know academy in Fort collins did a survey among active duty pilots in the 80's including european countries. And asked them which plane was famous and why, I'f I remember right it was 109 first, spitfire follow by b24 liberator and then mustang.
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Originally posted by doobs
The F4U, hands down.
what other plane had a tv show.
long live the Black Sheep
I agree about.. someodd %
I think that the worldwide most known plane was probably either the Mustang (D model) or the Zero.
The Mustang saw service for not just the U.S. but also for many other allied nations. The Zero, well, I think most everyone knows about that pain in the ***
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Spitfire no doubt.109 comes close too.
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Originally posted by crockett
I was thinking of that the other day. Why is the Spitfire known better than the Hurricane? The Hurricane actually had more kills in the war and a much better Kill/death ratio. IMO it's a much better aircraft aswell, yet you don't hear much about it. It's always the Spitfire in regards to RAF aircraft.
from a tv program i watched on the battle britan the hurri had a kill ratio of 4 - 1 over the spit (mainly as the spit was fairly new so in limated numbers and had manufacturing problems.spit was hard to build compared to the hurri). the reason they gave that the spit was the uber fighter was looks (propaganda) the spit looks so good compared to other fighters and the public took it to heart more than any other plane.
personaly the only other ww2 plane's that look "good" is the p-51 and mossie. both of these planes took the publics heart.
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I would have to say around the world.............P51 mustang. I had no tv and no movies growing up and I still heard how the pony kicked butt in the war, and I have lived all over. Followed by the spitfire.
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Originally posted by hyster
from a tv program i watched on the battle britan the hurri had a kill ratio of 4 - 1 over the spit (mainly as the spit was fairly new so in limated numbers and had manufacturing problems.spit was hard to build compared to the hurri). the reason they gave that the spit was the uber fighter was looks (propaganda) the spit looks so good compared to other fighters and the public took it to heart more than any other plane.
personaly the only other ww2 plane's that look "good" is the p-51 and mossie. both of these planes took the publics heart.
What does this have to do with the Most Known fighter aircraft???????????
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Originally posted by Reapr
What does this have to do with the Most Known fighter aircraft???????????
because during the war the press was all over the spitfire (propaganda) saying how good it was. the more press the more known the plane is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by hyster
the spit looks so good compared to other fighters and the public took it to heart more than any other plane [/B]
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spitfire worldwide
P51 in the US
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This is kinda a hijack, but lets be very clear on this, the Spitfire, overhyped or not, was a significantly better fighter than the Hurricane. Those of you claiming otherwise need to do more research.
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Spitfire and 109
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Have to say spitfire so many countrys flew them.
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Spit has got to be THE most recognized plane of WW2, save maybe the B17
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According to the History Channel the P51 won the war:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by lyric1
Have to say spitfire so many countrys flew them.
And all the country's that flew a spitfire, flew the P-51, even some that didn't fly the spit flew the Stang.
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LMAO............. soooooooooooooooooooooooo what's YOUR answer to this question Van?
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P-51s never grabbed the limelight outside of the United States that I've noticed. There are a lot of countries that seem to hold the Spitfire pretty high.
I don't think the P-51 is a top two or three contender. Really, I think it is between the Bf109 and Spitfire.
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Spit...followed by the 109...
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before I came to AH I knew nothing at all about WWII planes, but I knew the Mustang, Messerschmidt, and Zero.
I had never heard of the spitfire, I could ID by sight but not name the F4u (because of black sheep squadron).
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I think that depends on the time frame.
During the war it was probably the 109. It served the longest time and flew in every corner of the western war against every allied nation.
Post war its a real toss up. I am sure it will be either the spitfire or the mustang. As someone said earlier the spitfire is an icon so I have to place my money on it. Although the mustang might "win by a nose."
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
What WorldWar 2 fighter do you think is most known through out the world or throught it's country of origan.
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Max Schmeling
And
Joe Louis
Even non WWII Geeks know those names ;)
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Originally posted by hyster
from a tv program i watched on the battle britan the hurri had a kill ratio of 4 - 1 over the spit (mainly as the spit was fairly new so in limated numbers and had manufacturing problems.spit was hard to build compared to the hurri). the reason they gave that the spit was the uber fighter was looks (propaganda) the spit looks so good compared to other fighters and the public took it to heart more than any other plane.
personaly the only other ww2 plane's that look "good" is the p-51 and mossie. both of these planes took the publics heart.
not entirely on point....
The Hurricane got more kills because it was better deployed... The spitfire was factually the superior aircraft.
What I love is that the German pilots in the Battle of Britain would claim they were shot down by Spits just because they didn't want to admit they lost to the earlier Hurricanes.
In fact, prior to Dunkirk there were a few cases of Germans claiming to be shot down (or to have shot) spitfires even though there wasn't a single spitfire deployed on the European mainland at the time... They were Hurricanes.
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The P51 Mustang---------Because of Chuck Yeager
The Zero-------------------Because of Tora Tora Tora
The Corsair----------------Because of Ba Ba Black Sheep
The Fockwulf--------------Because it sound like a cuss word
The Honorable mention is the B17 Bomber, i know not a fighter, but everybody knew of the B17.
This is my list prior to my first introduction into AW and WW2 aircraft.
Sure now i know of the spitfire. hurri, p38, 109, p40, p47, post AW, but these just weren't mentioned in the crowd i grew up with, not like the ones above. Even us non-war buffs knew of the above planes.
Oh and now Honorable mention buff is the Lancaster.
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The Fockwulf--------------Because it sound like a cuss word
Fockwulf is a brand, not a model. I think your talking about the 190, but the Fockwulf company made many other planes, another more famous one of the era, the FW (Fockwulf) 200 Condor...
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Originally posted by Kurt
not entirely on point....
The Hurricane got more kills because it was better deployed... The spitfire was factually the superior aircraft.
What I love is that the German pilots in the Battle of Britain would claim they were shot down by Spits just because they didn't want to admit they lost to the earlier Hurricanes.
In fact, prior to Dunkirk there were a few cases of Germans claiming to be shot down (or to have shot) spitfires even though there wasn't a single spitfire deployed on the European mainland at the time... They were Hurricanes.
i don't think i made the point i was trying too.
i was trying to make the point that the spit got its reputation (not deservedly at the time) from the battle of Britain were the hurri got more kills than it. propaganda made the spit a household name hence well known. if it had gone by kills then the hurri would have been a bigger household name, thats where it came down to looks. the spit is a beautiful plane where as the hurri is not, so they decided to make the spit the center of the propaganda campaign.
the b-17 got its reputation the same way from the film Memphis belle. the b-24 was a better bomber but again propganda played a huge roll in getting the plane into the publics houses.
yes the spit was a great plane and better than the hurri, i wasn't trying to say it wasn't.
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Spitfire no doubt - very easy to pronounce and its beautiful shape is appealing beyond comparison. Its an icon. I'd like to glorify the 109 of course but the question was the "most known" not the "most preferred" :D
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For worldwide recognition I'd have to say the Spitfire.
On a side note, the first plane I ever flew in AH was the Tempest in the TA. Was so impressed the game actually modeled one.
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Originally posted by trigger2
Fockwulf is a brand, not a model. I think your talking about the 190, but the Fockwulf company made many other planes, another more famous one of the era, the FW (Fockwulf) 200 Condor...
Ok for u anal types........Fockwulf 190
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Originally posted by Trog
Ok for u anal types........Fockwulf 190
There is no such thing as Fockwulf. But I know about a former German company named Focke-Wulf... ;)
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Originally posted by Lusche
There is no such thing as Fockwulf. But I know about a former German company named Focke-Wulf... ;)
:aok
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
What WorldWar 2 fighter do you think is most known through out the world or throught it's country of origan.
Oregon's a state, I believe. I attempted to look up what might be the most popular WWII fighter plane there but there was no conclusive evidence. But there was a famous pilot by the name of Barber:
http://www.oregon.com/history/biography/rex_barber.cfm
Flew 38s and 39s. Participated in the Yamamoto shoot down.
I gotta say it's refreshing to see someone start a thread specifically interested in Oregon. Worldwide popularity polls on planes, pilots and countries are a dime a dozen here.
:aok :D
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I could compile a list of all planes that did some extreme fate during ww2 that have been more named then others, but I conclude one thing: they were weapons of war.
Dont think one killing machine was more popular then others, in my opinion think P-51D gets more credit then it deserves since many other aircraft like P-40 were work horse of the army aircorp for many years, or Me109s rolled Europe like nothing, or Hurricanes that defended france, britain from devistation.
I think all planes were equal in mind of what they did, take it from Douglas TBD's entire squadrons shot down in midway with 1 sole person surviving.
That sticks out in my mind as those men went on a suicidal mission without escort fighters to try to save Midway island and destroy japanese fleet.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
I would say.
American:Fighter:
P51
German:Fighter:
109's (the 190 were not around alot during early years of the war)
Russian:Fighter:
Mig's but since we dont have them in the game Yaks.
Japanese:Fighter
Zero.
Very surprised you didn't mention the spitfire.....oh wait not I'm not.
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forgot about the brits:
spitfire.
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Spitfire
109
Stucka
Zero