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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DiabloTX on December 22, 2007, 10:48:35 PM
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Thank you.
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WTF is that on/under the hood scoop?
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A nice little supercharger.
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To keep the ZR1 line, they should have did the square taillights. Would have been sweet to give a nod to the "predecessor".
Too much money for a Vette though. The Z06 is still the better "Bang for the buck."
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The center of the hood has a clear plexi window so you can see the top of the engine cover and the little supercharged badge. It's basically the same thing as having a clear window on the side of a computer case.
I personally think it's goofy but I can see how it could be a popular design feature simply because it's unique.
Oh yea, I want one too. The only problem I see with this new vette is that a GT-R will still probably beat it on the track. The vette will have better raw specs but every review I've read about the best vettes when *real* racecar drivers get in it is that it's not a very easy car to drive at it's limits. Yes the raw power and huge tires will make it possible for even a crappy driver to drive fast, but driving a vette REALLY FAST is supposedly much more difficult than driving (for example) a 911, GTR, ferarri, etc. In the hands of a really good driver a vette can do well but... just look at the times the GTR is posting around the 'ring and it's easy to see the difference.
That's why I'm not going to buy a vette until I have a chance to see and test drive a GTR first :) The GTR and Z06 ought to cost about the same in 2008 and the GTR simply posts better times on the track because it handles better. That's something I care about... It's the reason why I went with an F-body instead of a mustang back in 1997. The f-body with the LT-1 and LS-1 engine just CRUSHED any factory stang from 1994 through about 2005, and my 10 year old firebird will STILL beat a mustang GT on a road course, and it'll be an almost dead heat on the dragstrip with my car typically showing slightly better times when driven well.
So... Vette vs. GTR vs. cayenne vs. 911... I think the GTR is gonna get the nod if it turns out to match what people are saying about pre-production test drives.
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Im intrigued that you will only buy the car with the better track speeds, things you simply wont ever attain on regular street driving.
Or is this some sorta macho thing :)
Just asking!
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Except that I actually DO race my car.
Yea. I'm one of those guys. Buy a fast car as a daily driver, and actually go to a track to race it. Weird huh? That's one reason why I didn't go for a fast beemer. 'cause I knew if I whacked a cone with it or took it into the gravel, it could cost upwards of $3k to fix. Whacking a cone at 80 in my firebird typically needs just a little cleaner wax to fix (unless it hits the EXACT right spot and makes it up to the radiator). It's a bit worse in a vette but chevy knew damn well people would be bouncing vette air dams off of speed bumps and stuff, so they're not too expensive and you can remove/replace one in your garage if necessary.
For my daily driver, I want a car that can get out of it's own way in a hurry, be decently comfy (ie. no dodge viper or race-prepped anything) and be built well enough to handle track days. The f-body is exactly that, in spades. The only thing that typically goes bad with f-bodys on the track is that the front brake rotors might crack at the end of a hard day of hot laps. At $40 apiece, that's not exactly catastrophic and most people I know who race their f-bodys on road courses just keep a spare set or two in their toolkit when they go racing. Mustangs tend to fall the hell apart if you really beat them up. I remember a police chase in CA a while ago where a bunch of cops in crown vics managed to chase down a dude in a mustang because the mustang oil or transmission or power steering or something like that overheated after about an hour of flogging it around town. That's absolutely pitiful. Camaros and firebirds built after 1998 are quite happy making lap after lap.
That's why after 127,000 miles, the only mechanical item that's gone wrong with my car is the water pump seal started to go. I had a dealer fix that, making it a grand total of $500 worth of engine repairs after 127k miles, 10 years, and 4 solid years of SCCA solo2 racing. Not too shabby IMHO.
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Originally posted by eagl
a grand total of $500 worth of engine repairs after 127k miles, 10 years, and 4 solid years of SCCA solo2 racing. Not too shabby IMHO.
That's pretty impressive considering you race.
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On December 19, 2007, General Motors officially revealed the 2009 Corvette ZR1, giving a press release and photographs of the car. GM confirmed a supercharged 6.2 L LS9 V8 producing 620 hp. Performance figures were not released, but GM acknowledged that the car was capable of 200 mph, making it the fastest production Corvette ever.
Carbon fibre is used on the roof, hood, fenders, front splitter, and rocker moldings; the hood and fenders are painted over, while the roof and splitter are merely covered in a clear-coat, retaining their black color. A polycarbonate window is placed in the center of the hood, allowing the engine intercooler to be seen from the exterior.
The wheels are the largest ever placed on a production Corvette, with both front and rear wheels increasing in size and diameter over the Corvette Z06. Carbon-ceramic brakes are included, which GM claims will last the life of the car. The brake calipers are painted blue, as are the engine intercooler trim and the ZR1 logo. Magnetic Selective Ride Control is also included on the car, with sensors to automatically adjust stiffness levels based on road conditions and vehicle movement.
Say brother, ya got a spare $100k on ya?
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Dear Santa indeed :O
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I'd only get one if it came as a hybrid.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I'd only get one if it came as a hybrid.
It is.
Street car/Race car.
My kind of hybrid!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
It is.
Street car/Race car.
My kind of hybrid!
:aok
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LOL to hybrid....witty reply, I likey!
Eagl, just wondered. I've seen coworkers buy these monster cars that must be just dying of carbon buildup since they seldom see anything over 55.
(My favorites are the folks who buy a Cadillac truck, then cry when the thing takes a few scratches from doing anything truck-like)
We used to have F-101 Voodoos here and 20 miles away, they built an emergency runway in the event they had to land and were too far from base. That's now the local drag racing place (I think its 7 to 8k long). Some pretty impressive street rods race there in the warmer months.
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LePaul,
I don't understand that mentality about trucks either. Obviously here in texas, almost everyone owns a huge truck for no reason other than peer pressure. It's pretty wasteful I think. Even my firebird gets 20+ mpg around town and 28ish on the highway, while those trucks get somewhere between 7 and 12 mpg on average.
Plus the people who drive those trucks still drive them like they are in a sports car. They charge up to red lights and slam on the brakes to stop, race around parking lots, weave in and out of traffic, etc. Most have no concept of what momentum means, and I laugh out loud every time I see one upside down on the side of the road because I know that almost all of those were the result of flat-out driver stupidity, trying to drive an F150 or escalade or whatever as if it was a porsche. Retards.
My only consolation watching these truck owners is that they're pouring so much money into their gas tanks every couple of days, they don't have enough money to participate in other activities that I enjoy. Yea I'll probably end up paying their welfare... er... social security when they're old and suddenly discover they don't have any money saved up, but their financial hardship is totally self induced and it makes me 100% immune to the liberal democrats' attempts to make me feel guilty for having a few bucks in the bank. I drive a 10 year old car... Don't give me any crap about how fortunate I am or compare me to anyone in less well-off conditions who has a new car.
There are ways to live that don't require a new gas guzzling truck every 3-4 years...
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Eagl & LePaul, you can make the same argument for those that have trailer queens that never get driven. And I'm not talking about some rare Shelby GT500 or Camaro ZL1. There's a car meet every Saturday night in Kemah that draws an average of about 50 cars. Of those I'd say about 20% are trailered in, dusted off, and displayed like they were at some kind of sponsored car show. It's a CAR, frikkin' DRIVE IT.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
It's a CAR, frikkin' DRIVE IT.
AMEN! I've SOLOed nearly every car I've owned. Ford Festiva, Taurus, Audi 4000, a borrowed SVT Contour (LOVED that car for SOLO). Am hoping to get the 780 into SOLO shape when i get back from tech school next December, just need a good 302 to start my build up.
I love track time and I miss the Quattro Cub track days.
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Originally posted by eagl
LePaul,
I don't understand that mentality about trucks either. Obviously here in texas, almost everyone owns a huge truck for no reason other than peer pressure. It's pretty wasteful I think. Even my firebird gets 20+ mpg around town and 28ish on the highway, while those trucks get somewhere between 7 and 12 mpg on average.
Plus the people who drive those trucks still drive them like they are in a sports car. They charge up to red lights and slam on the brakes to stop, race around parking lots, weave in and out of traffic, etc. Most have no concept of what momentum means, and I laugh out loud every time I see one upside down on the side of the road because I know that almost all of those were the result of flat-out driver stupidity, trying to drive an F150 or escalade or whatever as if it was a porsche. Retards.
My only consolation watching these truck owners is that they're pouring so much money into their gas tanks every couple of days, they don't have enough money to participate in other activities that I enjoy. Yea I'll probably end up paying their welfare... er... social security when they're old and suddenly discover they don't have any money saved up, but their financial hardship is totally self induced and it makes me 100% immune to the liberal democrats' attempts to make me feel guilty for having a few bucks in the bank. I drive a 10 year old car... Don't give me any crap about how fortunate I am or compare me to anyone in less well-off conditions who has a new car.
There are ways to live that don't require a new gas guzzling truck every 3-4 years...
Ease up a bit there eagl. My R/T is my only vehicle. While it may not be a porsche it's no yugo either. Hotchkis suspension does wonders. Lets see that Fbody pick up a dishwasher from the local Lowes.
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Originally posted by eagl
I don't understand that mentality about trucks either. Obviously here in texas, almost everyone owns a huge truck for no reason other than peer pressure. It's pretty wasteful I think.
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There are ways to live that don't require a new gas guzzling truck every 3-4 years...
I've got a huge gas guzzler ~ excursion. I love it so much. If they made something bigger, I'd buy it. We roadtrip once a month with 3 sons & 2 dogs. For them, an excursion ain't even big enough.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ease up a bit there eagl. My R/T is my only vehicle. While it may not be a porsche it's no yugo either. Hotchkis suspension does wonders. Lets see that Fbody pick up a dishwasher from the local Lowes.
Don't think eagl was targeting truck drivers like you there Bronk. And, no, I can't lug home a dishwasher in my Z but that's not what it was built for, apples and oranges ya know?
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Originally posted by texasmom
I've got a huge gas guzzler ~ excursion. I love it so much. If they made something bigger, I'd buy it. We roadtrip once a month with 3 sons & 2 dogs. For them, an excursion ain't even big enough.
TxMom I hope you drive it better than 95% women in their huge SUV's do here in Houston. For some reason they think that since they are in a 5000 lbs. vehicle they have the right of way no matter what the situation and for some reason it calls for them to be on their cellphone the majority of the time. But, in the end, it pays off when I'm in my car walking into a store and I see them mom's trying to park their jumbo vehicle-RV's in the small parking spots at the local mall, lawlz.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
TxMom I hope you drive it better than 95% women in their huge SUV's do here in Houston. For some reason they think that since they are in a 5000 lbs. vehicle they have the right of way no matter what the situation and for some reason it calls for them to be on their cellphone the majority of the time. But, in the end, it pays off when I'm in my car walking into a store and I see them mom's trying to park their jumbo vehicle-RV's in the small parking spots at the local mall, lawlz.
I'm not a great driver. I'm the annoying slow, sunday driver... and I don't bully my way around traffic. ;)
I don't talk on the cell phone when I drive (it's actually forbidden on our local military installation)
I don't shop at malls :) Hate the crowds ~ including the crowded parking lot.
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Santa is disgusted that someone would ask for a Chevy, Santa only deals in Fords. :D
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
TxMom I hope you drive it better than 95% women in their huge SUV's do here in Houston. For some reason they think that since they are in a 5000 lbs. vehicle they have the right of way no matter what the situation and for some reason it calls for them to be on their cellphone the majority of the time. But, in the end, it pays off when I'm in my car walking into a store and I see them mom's trying to park their jumbo vehicle-RV's in the small parking spots at the local mall, lawlz.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
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:rofl
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
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LOL :lol :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Dago
Santa is disgusted that someone would ask for a Chevy, Santa only deals in Fords. :D
I like it :rofl
I used to have a Holden Torana Hatchback that I could put into third, get rolling and firewall the throttle, it would light up for half a block :cool:
Damn thing only got 9mpg around town but I did love that car.
I also had a genuine A9X hatchback, for about 3 months, then a B double missed a turn and ran OVER it:eek: :cry