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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on December 24, 2007, 12:27:44 AM
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Man, were we busy at the store today! Around 3:30 the place was packed and I had lines at all registers. I was running back and forth trying to put out customer service fires when I get paged. "Uh, you need to get up here." I ask what the problem is and they say "Just get up here quick."
OK, Spidey senses are tingling now. Most likely a shoplifer I thought as I made way for the front of the store. I can hear some commotion going on now and I thought I heard a scream so I kick it into high gear not knowing what I was heading for.
I come round the corner and almost plow over a little old lady standing with her back to me. I still don't see where the screams are coming from but I can clearly hear them. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I walk a couple steps and then saw the source.
"I WANT THAT TOY!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!"
A freaking 7-8 year old kid is throwing a tantrum because Momma won't buy him a remote control toy. He was lying on his back arms and legs flailing throwing a 110% hissy fit. So what does Mom do? She walked out of the store and left him there.
That's good parenting.
I got her description, told one of my checkers that has children to get the kid up and out of the way so we could get the line moving. I took off in search of the Mother. I search the parking lot and found her sitting in her car listening to the radio.
"Lady, you need to come get your kid!" She looked at me like I had just insulted her. "He'll get tired and come on out," she said shaking her head as she talked "and you need to mind your own business."
"Lady, you come get your kid or I'm calling the police."
She got out of the car and was clearly pissed off at me. I wasn't exactly thrilled with her, btw. We walk back inside and they have managed to get the boy on his feet and out of the way but he's still raising holy hell at the top of his lungs screaming and crying. He's got a death grip on the shopping carts.
She immediately went from a biatch to submissive Mom. "Now, Honey. Mommy can't buy you the toy. We'll get it later and.." "WAAAAAA!!!! I WANT THE TOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YY!!!" The kid start shaking the shopping carts while yelling right in his mother's face. She tries to pull him away and he won't let go screaming and yelling at his Mother.
She turns him loose and tells me she can't make him let go. I asked her "Would you like me to help?" She finally relented and said yes.
I reached over to the shopping cart handles and spread the baskets apart. The kid suddenly went from having a Kung Fu grip on the wire baskets to having his fingers in a vice.
This scream was slightly different from the ones he had been giving. I pushed the baskets back together and he yanked his hands out.
"There ya go!"
As I walk them out to the car the kid is still sobbing, but he following my instructions. The Mom never took a dominate stance with the kid. I'd hate to think what he is going to be like in another 5 to 6 years.
I walk back inside and thank the cashier that got him up. She laughed and said no problem. "But that kid needs some therapy... leather therapy!"
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LOL~ Leather Therapy. Good one :)
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Originally posted by rpm
"But that kid needs some therapy... leather therapy!"
Tell me about it. If I had ever done that my mom or dad would have gave me some right in the store then some more when we got home.
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No...the Mother needs some "leather therapy" (not that kind TK....sheesh!)
That is typical of a kid who has never had any limits imposed or enforced on them.
Sad, but a true state of the average parenting devotion of the last 10 years or so.
My kids grew up with the great "video game" called "outdoors" where they could always come in for Koolaid, or get dragged in for personal 1 on 1 interaction with the Dad unit or Mom unit (sometimes that wasn't pleasant with the child unit, but wtf).
Seems the more we evolve into this technological society, we expect technology to grow our kids up and set thier limits.
Ain't working folks. Sometimes maybe it IS better to employ the rod.
Just my humble $0.02 (I have 3 wonderfully responsible young adults now, who grew up under the "thumb").
cheers,
RTR
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All kidding aside about the belt ~ by the time they get to that age, the discipline foundation should already be so firmly set that spankings shouldn't even be necessary.
Even with the 'technology age,' it's fully possible to instill discipline in kids ~ I think parents are just too lazy to do it, because it means a great deal of patience & effort on their part.
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TxMom, I think the whole point is the mother never set any boundries or followed up on them. If she had been an enforcer instead of a therapist (no pun intended) the child would have already learned right behavior from wrong.
We (the staff present) were all pretty much in agreement that if any of us had tried that we would have been publicly beaten in the blink of an eye.
I don't know the backstory, but I'd bet a $100 she was a single mother.
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Did the kid yell, "Don't taze me bro!"
Did you get it on video?
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I thought about that later. I had my phonecam and it would have been a great vid. But, I was more concerned with resolving the event. I'm sure the security got it.
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The NEW discipline tool....
"If you don't stop this racket I'll video your tantrum and post it on you tube then I'll email the link to ALL your friends!"
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Did the kid yell, "Don't taze me bro!"
Did you get it on video?
Someone seriously needs to make some low powered tasers and sell em as errr um toys for parents :) (after all you can get shocking tank games).
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taser lite = cattle prod
as long as you only zap the little buggers and not hit them with it you may even stay out of the clutches of auntie helen's anti smacking gestapo... but i doubt it
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Just a thought...... Hopefuly that Mom's lawyer doesn't show up with a law suite , and all kinds of crap doctors reports of trauma,pain and suffering from that little bastage's fingers getting pinched it the shopping carts ....
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If she woulda bought the toy, the kid wouldn'ta had to resort to such extreme tactics. :p :D
Got a 2 yo boy who just beginning to understand. Even so, I'm sure he will try it once to see if it works :cry, and once is all it takes if you dont lay the hammer down :t. My girls are 11 and 8 and they fully understand that that type of behavior is out of the question. :aok
(now if I could just get thier mother to mind as well.................)
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Sadly, that seems to be the situation more often than not when single women raise boys---they seem incapable of any sort discipline--which is why families are best comprised of a mother and a father
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I took my 6 and 8 year olds to Home Depot last week. As I was selecting wood they started crawling through the racks; I told them to stop it and stick by me. They wandered off and I gave them a last warning/reminder. The next time they wandered off I told them to drop and give me 20. I never had to raise my voice. They immediately started their push-ups and were perfectly behaved for the rest of the visit.
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If I acted up in a store, my mom just left me and I had to walk back home.
Or she took me back home and beat me with the first thing she got her hands on
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Originally posted by RTR
No...the Mother needs some "leather therapy" (not that kind TK....sheesh!)
I'll give here some, but only if shes dressed in a tight black bad ms. santa outfit. :aok
Originally posted by rpm
I'm sure the security got it.
Okay lets see it.:D
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Spanking may end up with the mum having the cops called on her in this crazy world we live in.
She should have bought the toy, got her kid out of the store after apologising for her kid's behaviour, then placed said toy under the back wheels of her car and backed over it.
Then, she should turn around and ask him if that is what he wants to have happen to all his Christmas presents.
Drive home if child is still throwing a fit and one by one crush all the toys in a similar manner until he stopped.
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My son tried that once with me in a Wal-Mart about 7 years ago. He was 5 at the time. Being raised as I was I did what my dad would have done to me (make that did to me), I snatched his little butt out of the cart, smacked him a good one on the rump and put him back in the cart. I then explained to him once I had his undivided attention that if he so much as speaks anouther word about the toy he wants I would spank him again right there in the store, we would go home, and he would be sent to his room for the rest of the day.
He behaved himself very well after that. Of course I had some lady who saw it threaten to call security on me because I was "beating" my child in the store. When I told her to kiss my bellybutton she got a little irate but o'well. My kids know better than to act up like that. They've both gotten spanked for getting out of control and now they know that unless they want to get smacked down to listen to what I tell them. My ex-wife on the other hand lets them run all over her. She's of the mindset that a time out is all that's needed to keep them under control.
I believe a swift kick in the bellybutton is more effective so that's what I use. Funny how I don't have many problems with my kids when they're with me. They're polite, respectfull and they do what I tell them to do at least the second time I say something to them. They know I better not repeat myself a third time.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
My son tried that once with me in a Wal-Mart about 7 years ago. He was 5 at the time. Being raised as I was I did what my dad would have done to me (make that did to me), I snatched his little butt out of the cart, smacked him a good one on the rump and put him back in the cart. I then explained to him once I had his undivided attention that if he so much as speaks anouther word about the toy he wants I would spank him again right there in the store, we would go home, and he would be sent to his room for the rest of the day.
He behaved himself very well after that. Of course I had some lady who saw it threaten to call security on me because I was "beating" my child in the store. When I told her to kiss my bellybutton she got a little irate but o'well. My kids know better than to act up like that. They've both gotten spanked for getting out of control and now they know that unless they want to get smacked down to listen to what I tell them. My ex-wife on the other hand lets them run all over her. She's of the mindset that a time out is all that's needed to keep them under control.
I believe a swift kick in the bellybutton is more effective so that's what I use. Funny how I don't have many problems with my kids when they're with me. They're polite, respectfull and they do what I tell them to do at least the second time I say something to them. They know I better not repeat myself a third time.
Some most definitely call that sort of behavior barbaric and abusive. Those others of us who have raised well behaved and adjusted kids call it good parenting.
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rpm...please share more stories I always enjoy reading them.
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I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, don't miss retail at all.
At all.
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Diablo ~ tell us how you REALLY feel about that.
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I dont miss it either. Tying to explain to customers what "out of stock" means
Sorry we are out of this until the truck comes tomoorrow
No we dont have any in the back we are sold out
There isnt any in the store at all, we are sold out
Im 100% sure we are out, I was looking for them a half hour ago
No there isnt any here at all
No im not lying to you
*grumble grumble*
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Well, my mother (may she rest in peace) worked retail for 23 years starting off as a part-time cashier/sales person to Regional Manager for Casual Corner and then Pettite Sophisticate. I did 2 years at Office Depot and that about killed me. I have no idea how she did it.
Oh yeah, btw, I really hated retail.
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if you are not going to beat your kids why bother having them at all?
:huh
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
if you are not going to beat your kids why bother having them at all?
:huh
You mean besides the welfare check?
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8 year old? wow. I would understand that from a 3 or 4 year old. 8 is just too old for that crap.
Honestly though, I wouldve called the police. That mom is clearly having issues caring for a child if she thinks abandoning him in a store full of strangers is a good idea.
OTH, I could've been real evil and told the kid his mom had the toy in the trunk of the car, grab a camera as he runs to his mom's car and get myself the 10 grand winning prize for americas funniest home videos.
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Originally posted by AKIron
You mean besides the welfare check?
Or be on the Maury Povitch show.
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Titled "I've tested 12 men, are you my baby's daddy?"
Guess spears will be on there next
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HAHA Meat, sounds like you and I could trade a million retail stories and still not scratch the surface. Nothing reveals the ugly side of society quite like working retail. Or be in law enforcement.
*shivers*
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I'm telling you all...
There is something we ALL can learn from this -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo7hq0xVuUA
And if that's too much to ask of a parent... then may i suggest...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm5EI4c-b4A
:lol :rofl :lol :D :aok
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Fast Food is by far the worst of a sales type job. You get people wanting everything for nothing, people that look down on the workers, and messy babies by the boatload....and let's not get to the bathrooms. It's an experience everyone should do atleast once, maybe there would be less *******s in the world.
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QUOTE]Originally posted by B@tfinkV
if you are not going to beat your kids why bother having them at all?
:huh [/QUOTE]
that's the same thinking that would disempower and criminalise the vast majority of parents who use their own judgment to determine when to sparingly spank their kids.. ie nanny state knows best.
And there's a big difference between brutalising a kid by beating it and spanking or smacking a badly misbehaving kid across the arse or legs with an open hand to discipline it. and if you don't know the difference maybe you should never become a parent.
if that situation in the opening post had of happened in new zealand and the mother had smacked her tantrum throwing kid instead of buggering of to her car she would have been breaking the law, and no doubt there would have been a civic minded do-gooder witness nearby to dob her in to the cops. she may have even escaped prosecution if the cops deemed her offending was at the lower end of the scale, but she would be in for plenty of authoritarian grief as her and probably the rest of her family is tagged for scrutiny from the cops and social services.
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there is a difference between discipline and punishment.
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Originally posted by DYNAMITE
I'm telling you all...
There is something we ALL can learn from this -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo7hq0xVuUA
The first time I saw that South Park ADD episode I thought it was brilliant!
Back when we used to beat our kids, you didn't see the kind of behavior that you see today.
I remember when I transferred schools in the 2nd grade I was sent to the principal to be shown the huge friggin' "paddle" he used to spank the "bad kids" with, (http://www.woodenpaddlecompany.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/paddle4.jpg) getting in trouble became a non-issue. It just wasn't gonna happen because the fear it instilled stayed with me for the next 4 years.
There was a lady in the news the other day that left her kid throwing a tantrum in the store and the police were called. She was arrested for child endangerment, and she was just sitting in her car in the parking lot.
As soon as she walked off you shoulda called the cops.
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there is a difference between discipline and punishment.
the distinction is blurry though, and discipline and punishment can be combined
little johnny scribbles over the new wallpaper with a crayon for the tenth time and gets spanked by an exasporated mum.
discipline: little johnny will think long and hard about doing the same again
punishment: for screwing up the wallpaper little johnny gets to learn a life lesson.. dont mess with you mum
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I got paddled in 1971 (6th grade) for leaving my shirt tail out--public school (ok...a few MINor infractions preceded it)
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Originally posted by AKIron
You mean besides the welfare check?
You mean they owe me a welfare check? Damn! ;)
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Originally posted by john9001
there is a difference between discipline and punishment.
And abuse.
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the paddle looks relativly kind compared to getting "six of the best" with the bamboo canes that were used in a lot of nz schools.
it depended on how much effort the teacher put in to the swing and the protection from the clothing you wore but the cane drawing blood wasn't that uncommon.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
HAHA Meat, sounds like you and I could trade a million retail stories and still not scratch the surface. Nothing reveals the ugly side of society quite like working retail. Or be in law enforcement.
*shivers*
If I sit and think hard enough, I could come up with a lot more. I worked every dept in a grocery store except meat and bakery/deli. Only have about 5 1/2 years worth but I came across a lot of nutjobs
Remember one crazy old bat that actually tried to PUNCH a the store manager because we were sold out of ground beef
And then about a few weeks later she got mad at me because she wanted me to rip open a sack of potatoes so she can buy a few small russet taters instead of the bigger idaho taters. (I was working produce back then)
Kept trying to explain to her that I cant do that and thats not how things work there. All she did was argue and argue some more. I finally told her "No, im not going to do it" with a And thats final tone of voice. She got mad and left.
Crazy old bat.
Another woman wanted a botle of Kraft ranch salad dressing thats on sale. The shelf was empty. She asked if we had any, and I said no I didnt see any in back. (Even though we got a truck in that morning and I was stocking that section off a roll-around cart I had). Even though we just got our truck in and I knew good and well it was back there on one of the pallets, we had a big truck and I didnt have the time to waste to go look for one thing. She said to me "well I guess you dont care about losing customers" or something like that. I just game her a look like she was crazy and went back to stocking.
I wasnt lying when I said I didnt see it. I didnt see it on the front row of pallets whe I dug my crap out, so to me its not in stock until I get my hands on it.
Turns out it was in the last row of pallets along the wall. Estimated time to dig it out just for her would of been about 10-15 minutes.
Sorry but I dont have time for impatient crybabies.
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people that don't like or can't work retail have no people skills.
when you are in contact with the customer/potential customer you are the tip of the spear, you are what makes or breaks a business. That customer pays your wages and makes profit for the business.
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The saying "The customer is always right" is wrong. The customer is wrong sometimes
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Originally posted by Meatwad
The saying "The customer is always right" is wrong. The customer is wrong sometimes
Hell man try working in electronic security systems sometime. 99% of the problems we have are because the "customer" is WRONG!!!!!!!!
It's hard to explain to a 70 year old woman with more money than God that her 4 digit pin number to arm her secuirty system isn't CAT. Cat was her duress code word if central station called her about an alarm. Actually had that one last week.
No the customer isn't always right and that's a fact.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Hell man try working in electronic security systems sometime. 99% of the problems we have are because the "customer" is WRONG!!!!!!!!
It's hard to explain to a 70 year old woman with more money than God that her 4 digit pin number to arm her secuirty system isn't CAT. Cat was her duress code word if central station called her about an alarm. Actually had that one last week.
No the customer isn't always right and that's a fact.
Heeh...that's what Ive been dealing with for 24 years
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Originally posted by Meatwad
The saying "The customer is always right" is wrong. The customer is wrong sometimes
Retail....delightful. I've had customers tell me that we have stores in places that we don't, and continue to insist I call that store. I've had customers continuously rant about how we are out of a certain product that was in the ad for the prior 3 weeks and now that it's NOON on Black Friday and we are out of the product, it's my fault.
And I've had the occasional customer that was probably under the influence telling me what my job is, how I don't do it properly, and telling me to call a store that doesn't exist....once again. Retail can be fun but it's not for the faint of heart.
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Customers are people. And just like people, there's the village idiots waving their dollar bills around purchasing stuff they should not be legally eligible to purchase (for lack of IQ).
In the travel industry I get a LOT of tourists who whine and moan and demand money back or compensation for their own mistakes.
I remember one lady who had purchased a mexican riviera vacation from us calling our office to demand full refund because the hotel she was in was a roach motel according to her and she had her entire vacation ruined because of it.
I looked at the reservation in my computer.. the wench had booked a 4.5 luxury hotel and I know the brochures we give for that property definetely emphasize on the installation and provides a huge number of pictures of the hotel, lobby, pool and beach areas.
Then I looked at the DATE this loony was supposed to check in... 2 WEEKS AGO.
I asked her if she had been in this hotel all this time she screamed back 'YES'. Told her to let me speak to the front desk (which she was there CHECKING OUT).
The guy, in spanish (i speak spanish) told me this 'madremonte' (female boogeyman) had been a pain in the butt all this time and was refusing payment and he was about to call the police.
I asked him for some more details on her arrival...
and when he mentioned the name of his hotel as he was describing her arrival I nearly fell out of my chair.
This @#$#@ wench had gone to the WRONG hotel, located nowhere near the beach (20 minute walk) and had stayed there the entire time without calling us ONCE the day she arrived.
I told the man it was the lady's error and told him the details, I could hear him chuckle and mumble something about stupidity and he let me speak with the lady.
Told her that this was all her error and that neither the hotel nor our company was responsible for the mishap and that no refunds were possible and she needed to pay the hotel she had stayed in directly. She blew up saying she was doing neither.
A week later I had to talk to that same 'roach motel' and had the guy on the phone..he understood it was not our fault at all and he did mention the police had to drag her out of his hotel and had been detained by the authorities until the due amount was paid to the hotel.
Its just incredible how retarded people can be. Just because they purchase a service from me doesn't make me liable to pay for their mistakes..and I certainly dont want that lady as a customer again.
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female boogeyman :rofl
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Originally posted by Excel1
if that situation in the opening post had of happened in new zealand and the mother had smacked her tantrum throwing kid instead of buggering of to her car she would have been breaking the law, and no doubt there would have been a civic minded do-gooder witness nearby to dob her in to the cops. she may have even escaped prosecution if the cops deemed her offending was at the lower end of the scale, but she would be in for plenty of authoritarian grief as her and probably the rest of her family is tagged for scrutiny from the cops and social services. [/B]
it's 3 weeks later, but in case anyone wasn't sure what i was prattling on about in the above quote this should make it easier, and it's is a good example of how you can never exaggerate creeping orwellianism:
9:00AM Monday January 14, 2008
A father police warned for reprimanding his son by a flick to the ear wants the warning removed from his record.
Professional musician Jimmy Mason flicked his three-year-old son Seth after a biking accident involving his two-year-old son Zach who had injured his eye.
"Seth just wanted to go on riding. He didn't realise the seriousness of it with the youngest one slipping in and out of consciousness," Mr Mason told The Press newspaper.
"So I turned to Seth and flicked him on the ear and told him to shut up while we fixed up the young one."
Police were called by an off-duty police officer.
It was "pretty bizarre" being surrounded by six police officers trying to ascertain whether it was safe for the children to go home with him, Mr Mason said.
He took his sons biking daily and they needed to obey his instructions to stay safe.
"When I say 'stop' to the kids they have got to stop." he said.
He was not charged but told that a warning would go on his record.
"It needs to be on record that I disciplined him for something he deserved, not that I'm a child beater."
He was considering legal action to get the warning removed, Mr Mason said.
Inspector Rick Jury told the paper police had some discretion in deciding whether to prosecute.
One of the law's clauses allowed parents to use some force for the purpose of minimising harm.
Family First national director Bob McCoskrie said the law was "totally over the top", which cases like this showed.
"It's lost the common-sense element. It's a feel-good law change but has done nothing to protect kids who are actually being abused."
- NZPA
link (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10486718)
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madness...:huh
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Good story!
I worked in a grocery store in between high school and boot. Had a lady take a dump on the floor because we were out of yam glaze. :confused:
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I had a good thing working for me with my kids.
When they acted up in a store...I'd use the quick thump. Thumb on the middle finger, increase tension and release it with blinding speed.
THUMP on da head!!!
"Now grab the cart or you'll get another one!!!" I had the most well behaved cart monkeys you could ever imagine in a store.
Just my technic.
Werked fer me... The girls now laff about it... Kept them straight though in public.
:aok
Mac
BTW I can give you tips on Prom Nights also.
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Had a 13YO Boy call the police to report being abused by his father.
Upon speakking to the young child it was determined they were having a fight because he wanted to go to his grandmothers house and was not allowed as he was grounded for misbehavior.
He continued to misbehave and was now told by Dad he lost his phone privledges for his behavior.
He immediately goes into his room and trys to get on the phone to call his grandmother. Dad tells him to get6 off the phone and he refuses. Dad then takes the phone out of his room by yanking the cord out of the wall.
The youing lad now begins to have a fit and tells Dad he is leaving the house and again Dads tells him NO. The boy trys several times to get by dear old dad to no avail.
He now decides he is no loonger a child but is a man and pushes the father and tells him to F-Off.
Dad it turn gives the tyke a lil slap in the mouth for his language and behavior.
The boy then calls the police because in school they told him if a parent touches you it is abuse.
The boy was no hurt in any way, other than maybe his feelings and ego.
Disipline or abuse????
No injury I say disipline..
BTW... I also informed the young lad he was lucky he was not my son for if he had been when he called 911 he would have had to ask for the Fire Department to get his lil rear end unstuck from whatever wall he would have found himself planted in.:aok
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Yeah, this discipline vs abuse things has gotten waaaay out of hand.
We have an apprentice at work who tends to get a little too mouthy to the wrong guys. I can see one of them giving him a wee smack in the mouth one day after he crosses the line one time too many.
The only trouble with this is, even though he knows he going to be the one who asked for it, he knows that the guy who smacks him one is going to lose their job and to be frank he doesn't give a scat about whether they've got family to support and he'll continue to be living in the comfort of his Mothers' house. So he continues to push his luck.
He's one of the "you can't touch me 'cos it's abuse" generation with a separated family who he plays off against one another even though the little smartass is going to be 18 in a few months time.
Yeah zero tolerance is working wonders. We've got kids with no respect for anyone who seem to firmly believe that they deserve everything for nothing and will not hesitate to take it from someone if they cant get it any other way. Oh BRAVE new world!
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Working as a Security gaurd in a mall in Lewisville Tx. I had a youg lady come to me and tell me that there was a man beating his child by the play area. So I ask what he was doing and she said that he was hitting the young child in the head.So on that note I moved down to the play area and the young lady was right behind me about a pace or two. When I arived at the play area she pointed out the man to me and said to watch him. Well I continued to watch the guy for about 5 min's when his boy about 9 yrs old hits a younger kid in the nose. The dad stood up grabed the boy and took him to the side and tould him not to do that agin. Well the young boy started screeming at the father and he laid a nice little pop on the boys cheeck. The young boy kicked his father in the knee and he agin he got a butt woopin. he young girl that had came and found me ran back up to me and said that I needed to arest him for abuse. Well since someone had came and found me I had to talk to the dad at least. So I walked up to the father of the boy and asked if every thing was ok? The father said yes and the boy although just getting a good woopin was acting like a angel. The young lady an up to us and tould me that I needed to arest this man over the beating of the young boy!!! The father started to get real upset and I could tell he would like to rip her head off to as well. I calmly held my finger up at her and asked her to step back. I then turned around and thanked the father because the boy was done with his fit and the father had done what was needed of him. The lady got all out of wack and started yelling at me. Calling me a Barny Fife and all of that kind of stuff.Well she should have looked behind her because a Lewisville Police officer walked up. We have two on staff all day long. And he ejected her from the building without even asking he side of the story.
Funny what happens to thouse that hinder the tides of discipline:aok
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The problem is that when you have to hit a kid. You have already failed. Generally speaking if you have taught them properly in the first place when they were younger you would never allowed them to reach a point where hitting them was neccessary.
My sisters have 9 kids between them. All of them are well behaved, well adjusted and I very much doubt any of them were ever hit. Quite simply boundaries were set early and punishment meted out for anyone breaking the rules. They are far from quiet children I might add but they know exactly where the line is because it's pointed out to them regularly.
You only have to watch programmes like Nanny 911 etc to see how even the most terrible children respond to very simple rules of behaviour.
The trouble is that many parents are as bad as their children. I told the story before of how I and my brother caught a 13 year old kid, attempting to break the mirror of my brother's car one night. We grabbed him after a mild struggle. He was drunk. Instead of beating him to a pulp, we called the police. They took him away.
Next day we received a call from the police. Could we come down for a statement. Apparently he had arrived back the next day with his Mother. She was making a complaint. Apparently we had attacked him for no reason, beat him up (not a mark on him) and falsely accused him of damaging the car.
To be honest the cop we spoke to was amused by this as the kid had admitted everything the night before. He explained that the Superintendant would bring them in and give him a caution and a warning to the Mother that making false accusations was an offense. That was the end of it.
But what got me though was this. Here was a 13 year old kid from a good background judging by his accent, out at night, drunk arrested for attempting to damage a car. Yet instead of dealing with all of these issues. His Mother decided to try and get him off by lying to the Police. No wonder the kid was drunk and out late at night. In the end I felt sorry for him.
Now I have an 11 month old son, so I have to put my money where my mouth is. It's a bit early, I suppose but he's walking and he knows what no means. The other day, he went for something. I said no and he stopped, stared at me and without taking his eyes off me, casually pushed it to the floor. I tried very hard not to laugh but I realised it's started.:(
Oh well.
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Having worked with kids now for over 20 years and raised three of my own, there is one thing crystal clear.
Kids want limits and boundaries. They feel safer that way. If they don't get them, they will push until someone sets them.
That doesn't mean you have to smack them around. It does mean that they get the message out early and often that there are lines you don't cross and that there are consequences if you do.
It also involves staying involved with your kids from the get go. Showing intererst in what they do, spending time with them is just as important as the discipline without the relationship won't work very well.
It's all about them feeling safe and secure knowing that the adults around them are putting the energy into setting the limits and caring about them.
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It also involves staying involved with your kids from the get go. Showing intererst in what they do, spending time with them is just as important as the discipline without the relationship won't work very well.
by Guppy35
I would love to do this but I work in the Oil Fied and they dont give me much time with my kids. Oh and the limit thing my inlaws have tried that with my 4 year old dosent work she will still go off the hook and do whatever it is that she wants to do and when she dose I lay a firm smack across her behind.