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Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on December 24, 2007, 12:51:56 PM: p-38J vs Ki-84 (http://479th.jasminemarie.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=3)
This one just for fun: lol2.ahf (http://479th.jasminemarie.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=4)
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on December 25, 2007, 12:36:59 AM: For Christmas here is
nightfighting (http://479th.jasminemarie.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=8)
and a quick flyby of
Santa (http://479th.jasminemarie.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=7)
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: DoNKeY on December 25, 2007, 01:38:05 AM: Enjoyed them a lot, thanks for posting them. I'm finding I love the 38 a lot; quite an extraordinary bird!

~~donkey~~
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Guppy35 on December 26, 2007, 05:14:08 PM: Good fun watching those Murdr. Loved the augering 51s. Not one but two while ya just sat there in, what I must say, was a very 'Corkified' P38 :)
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: BBStacker on December 26, 2007, 05:38:47 PM: Thanks for the films Murdr; I learn a lot by watching them.

:aok
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on December 26, 2007, 06:53:37 PM: I really had a hard time this year with the night gunnery. It's very hard to see the plane silhouette with the LCD monitor I now have. I tried to tweak the monitor about 5 minutes before rolling film. But when I accidently shut the monitor off due to the hidden button locations, and decided to grin and bare it :)

"in, what I must say, was a very 'Corkified' P38 "

I just watched that in slow motion to see how much I caught the tree by...was flaired a good 15+ degrees off of my direction of travel...brushed it with the fuselage, but caught it with the tailplane about 6" down from the top. Woulda been a nice ringer with a horseshoe :)
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: sgt203 on January 03, 2008, 03:19:07 AM: Nice Murder....

and :lol got the ditch and two freebies
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on January 05, 2008, 06:15:30 PM: kothtoc.zip (http://479th.jasminemarie.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=10)

This is a film clip from the final round in this years KoTH Tournament of Champions. The film is pretty much a duel between kappa and I. Was a good fight, and usually between the two of us equal E the fight could go either way. Today was his day, and congrats on the tournament win kappa.

Notice the use of lag pursuit in this film. In a vertical fight like this, one quick way to lose is to try to pull a lead to aggressively and end up in front of the opponent. Since we are both using lag in order to not end up in the others guns, the fight natually evolves into a slow speed rolling scissors.
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Guppy35 on January 05, 2008, 11:40:33 PM: Heckuva fight. You must have shot between Kappa's tail booms on that one snap shot where you coulda had em. After that it was all arm bending

Fun to watch :)
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: DoNKeY on January 05, 2008, 11:55:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Murdr
kothtoc.zip (http://479th.jasminemarie.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;id=10)

This is a film clip from the final round in this years KoTH Tournament of Champions. The film is pretty much a duel between kappa and I. Was a good fight, and usually between the two of us equal E the fight could go either way. Today was his day, and congrats on the tournament win kappa.

Notice the use of lag pursuit in this film. In a vertical fight like this, one quick way to lose is to try to pull a lead to aggressively and end up in front of the opponent. Since we are both using lag in order to not end up in the others guns, the fight natually evolves into a slow speed rolling scissors.

Looked like a lot of fun! Hope someday in the far future I can maybe do that hehe:D

donkey
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on February 01, 2008, 12:12:43 AM: I recorded a bit of a non-typical film tonight. No combat but...

(http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/noelev.jpg)

I can post it if there is any interest.
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: DoNKeY on February 01, 2008, 12:45:05 AM: Would love to see the film murdr; I'm sure I can learn something about throttle, rudder, and flap use from it:) , hopefully.

donkey

PS: What's that, the second time now?
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on February 01, 2008, 01:15:04 AM: Rgr that,

noelev.ahf (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/noelev.ahf)

I wasn't running film when I approached the furball, and targeted a BnZing F4u-A1 to intercept in his zoom. As soon as I cut the hog in half, I looked back to see a spit16 600 off of me. I pulled back on the stick and took hits as I flaired. Then I tried to go negative G, and by the planes poor response, instantly knew I lost an elevator. Then I got hit with a 2nd burst, and lost all pitch controls.

After watching the spit overshoot with friendlies in trail, and spending a min scanning the skies and getting leveled out, I decided to turn film on. The only means of controlling pitch absent elevators, is airspeed and flaps. Film is about 5 mins, and I spend all but the approach oscillating the pitch, trying to get a feel for what I needed to do to safely land.

ps. 1 P-38J-25 in AW, 1 N1K2 & 1 P38L in AHI, and a 38L & now 38J in AHII :)
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: DoNKeY on February 01, 2008, 01:27:05 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Murdr
Rgr that,

noelev.ahf (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/noelev.ahf)

I wasn't running film when I approached the furball, and targeted a BnZing F4u-A1 to intercept in his zoom. As soon as I cut the hog in half, I looked back to see a spit16 600 off of me. I pulled back on the stick and took hits as I flaired. Then I tried to go negative G, and by the planes poor response, instantly knew I lost an elevator. Then I got hit with a 2nd burst, and lost all pitch controls.

After watching the spit overshoot with friendlies in trail, and spending a min scanning the skies and getting leveled out, I decided to turn film on. The only means of controlling pitch absent elevators, is airspeed and flaps. Film is about 5 mins, and I spend all but the approach oscillating the pitch, trying to get a feel for what I needed to do to safely land.

ps. 1 P-38J-25 in AW, 1 N1K2 & 1 P38L in AHI, and a 38L & now 38J in AHII :)

Nice lol, and thanks for posting the film!

donkey
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Guppy35 on February 01, 2008, 02:13:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Murdr
I recorded a bit of a non-typical film tonight. No combat but...

I can post it if there is any interest.

Looks perfectly typical to me :)

Seems like I've done that a few times in the old 38G. But then again I'm always in a wrecked 38:aok
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: 2bighorn on February 01, 2008, 02:25:43 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Murdr
Rgr that,

noelev.ahf (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/noelev.ahf)

ps. 1 P-38J-25 in AW, 1 N1K2 & 1 P38L in AHI, and a 38L & now 38J in AHII :)
Nice. Not sure if that works on p-38, but on some planes, elevator trim remains functional even after the loss of elevator.
Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Spikes on February 01, 2008, 07:11:20 AM: Very nice films Murdr.

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Title: Pair of P-38 films
Post by: Murdr on February 01, 2008, 07:19:56 PM: I've heard that bighorn. I experimented with it when I lost elevators in a P-38L, and saw no effect at all from trim.