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Title: Perked Rides
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 26, 2007, 06:12:13 AM
How about making the LA7 and spit 16s perked :)...that would be great
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: WMLute on December 26, 2007, 07:08:23 AM
I think a really, really light perk for the 3 cannon version of the la7 would be acceptable.

Can't think of a reason to perk the spit 16 tho.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: waystin2 on December 26, 2007, 09:51:53 AM
I say nay!

Oink
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: stodd on December 26, 2007, 10:40:34 AM
where is my b29?
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: DoNKeY on December 26, 2007, 10:49:58 AM
Would rather spit be perked then la7
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Spikes on December 26, 2007, 10:51:18 AM
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Originally posted by WMLute
I think a really, really light perk for the 3 cannon version of the la7 would be acceptable.



Agreed...:aok
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Raptor on December 26, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
I say all 4 engine bombers get a light perk, it would encourage the use of other bombers.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Karnak on December 26, 2007, 11:28:20 AM
P-51D is a better candidate.  It has the highest usage.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: splitatom on December 26, 2007, 12:01:49 PM
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Originally posted by WMLute
I think a really, really light perk for the 3 cannon version of the la7 would be acceptable.

Can't think of a reason to perk the spit 16 tho.
the la7 with 3 canons was made at only one plant which made that plane fairly rare
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Spikes on December 26, 2007, 12:04:22 PM
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Originally posted by splitatom
the la7 with 3 canons was made at only one plant which made that plane fairly rare


Your point?
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: BiPoLaR on December 26, 2007, 03:15:19 PM
Lute i know youve been at 10k over a base...watch a spit 16 up...and 30secs later its on your 6 shooting you down from no where...we call it the Heli-spit...
it alone with all other 5 ENY planes should be perked
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Lusche on December 26, 2007, 04:51:28 PM
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Originally posted by BiPoLaR
Lute i know youve been at 10k over a base...watch a spit 16 up...and 30secs later its on your 6 shooting you down from no where..


Hi Serenity!
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Fulmar on December 26, 2007, 06:10:57 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor
I say all 4 engine bombers get a light perk, it would encourage the use of other bombers.


Oh man, people might actually use up their bomber perks then!
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Raptor on December 26, 2007, 09:37:57 PM
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Originally posted by Fulmar
Oh man, people might actually use up their bomber perks then!

How dare we answer the cries of the bomber pilots asking for some kind of bomber to use their perks on!
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: DoNKeY on December 26, 2007, 10:00:51 PM
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Originally posted by Raptor
How dare we answer the cries of the bomber pilots asking for some kind of bomber to use their perks on!
:rofl :rofl
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: killnu on December 27, 2007, 12:26:38 AM
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How dare we answer the cries of the bomber pilots asking for some kind of bomber to use their perks on!


So you want the P-38 perked?!:confused:
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Guppy35 on December 27, 2007, 12:38:10 AM
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Originally posted by killnu
So you want the P-38 perked?!:confused:


He said 4 engine bombers, not our light bombers :)
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Scherf on December 27, 2007, 03:59:22 AM
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Originally posted by Raptor
How dare we answer the cries of the bomber pilots asking for some kind of bomber to use their perks on!


lolz
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Tilt on December 27, 2007, 05:16:11 AM
If/When we get a perked ordinance system then alot of the above can come to pass...............

For me

every 1000lb (or 500kg) bomb should require 0.25 of a perk.

every 2000lb bomb should require 0.5 of a perk

every 4000lb bomb or over should require 1 perks

each subsequent pair of 20mm cannon (over the first 2) should carry 4 perks.


What we see then is that single player formations with field killing loadouts get some serious perkage (b24 formation with 8000lbs each = 12 perks, lanc with 14,000lbs each = 21perks). However this should be balanced such that rtb'ing all the formation after a successfull field killing trip earns serious perks.

The three cannon La7 gets an auto 4 perks with the N1K2  the chog the typhoon the mossie and the tempest. (the tempest may carry its own perks of course)
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: AAolds on December 27, 2007, 05:16:43 AM
Perk everything to some degree if its eny is 20 or lower.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: thrila on December 27, 2007, 06:48:05 AM
The likelihood of the mossie ever being perked is precisely nil.:D
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: MWL on December 27, 2007, 11:30:25 AM
The 110G2, FWA8, 109 with Gondies - these are to be perked as well?

Regards,
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Larry on December 27, 2007, 12:38:30 PM
mossi? 110g? 190A8? 109s with gondies?:rofl




You guys are funny.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: splitatom on December 27, 2007, 03:52:22 PM
some planes deserved to be perked but those other ones dont
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Spikes on December 27, 2007, 05:42:59 PM
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Originally posted by splitatom
some planes deserved to be perked but those other ones dont


I think we kinda figured that out. ;)
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Ghastly on December 28, 2007, 01:05:23 PM
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it alone with all other 5 ENY planes should be perked


^^^ along with all other 5 ENY planes  ^^^

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Perk everything to some degree if its eny is 20 or lower.


etc....
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I disagree vehemently...

As it is now, there are enough perk planes to give players a gentle incentive to work towards perks, which is a good thing. Players who want perks tend to RTB sorties rather than simply augering when they are done, and there is an incentive to fly the less capable rides which dramatically increases the variety of aircraft you see in the arena.

And as it is now, only a relatively small portion of the higher performance equipment is perked - and much of it is fairly specialized at that - which means that a player can play the sim for a very long time without missing anything of substance if they never fly a perked ride at all.  As a result, the current system gently encourages "good game play" without hampering gameplay in any meaningful way.

However, as you begin to perk the remainder of the higher performance aircraft, what would happen first is that players would naturally gravitate to the highest performance aircraft that isn't perked, which means that if you perk the LA, you'll see a higher proportion of XVI's, 51D's, and Niki's, and as you perk each of those, you'll see an increasingly higher percentage of whatever remains, all the while decreasing the variety of aircraft that are generally flown.

Until eventually what happens is even nastier - and is one of the very worst things about one of the competing sims I used to fly. Eventually, the new player has not only the "usual" hurdles to overcome in trying to compete in AH against veteran pilots (many of whom have decades of experience) but what's even worse, has to try to do so using the mediocre equipment which is all he can access, while the very best pilots (who've amassed loads of perks) get to use the very best.

This idea - to put it mildly - hoovers dirty pond water.

Adding minor changes - such as the ammo perks mentioned, or perking the 3 cannon LA, wouldn't necessarily be bad, as long as it wasn't overdone.  But perk too much and you create a huge problem fixing a problem that doesn't exist, except generally in the minds of a few who don't fly the rides that they want to see others fly less (or not at all).

Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Karnak on December 28, 2007, 01:27:49 PM
Well put Ghastly.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: MjTalon on December 28, 2007, 01:44:09 PM
Jesus this topic is the funniest i've read since the hot air ballon duels :rofl !
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Ghastly on December 28, 2007, 02:44:25 PM
Why is it funny, Talon?  The players who posted appear serious in thinking it would add to the game experience, I am serious in thinking it would detract from it for many people.

Are you still flying mostly F4U's these days?

Title: Perked Rides
Post by: Stang on December 28, 2007, 03:00:48 PM
I agree with Lute that the 3 cannon La7 should get a light perk.  Perhaps when we get the perked ordinance system that loadout will get one.
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: RoGenT on December 29, 2007, 07:17:24 PM
Perk the LA7 AND the La5 - I agree :aok
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: stodd on December 29, 2007, 11:57:41 PM
AND...the p40s:D
Title: Perked Rides
Post by: DoNKeY on December 30, 2007, 12:51:25 AM
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Originally posted by stodd
AND...the p40s:D
:D :D

And the field/ship guns, seeing as you can never die...