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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: cav58d on December 26, 2007, 07:10:38 PM
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So I just got an IPOD...I uploaded some songs on my uncle's computer, and than when I get home, I downloaded Itunes and went to upload some songs on my computer....As I tried, it told me I would have to delete the songs uploaded with another Itunes, and it can only accept songs from a single itunes....
Is this true? Can Ipod's really only upload songs from the same PC/Itunes?
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Ipods are junk.
I bought a 4gb RCA brand MP3 player, it works flawlessly. Plus you just copy/paste songs from your computer into the mp3 player, dont even need to run software for it. The PC sees it just like a usb jump drive.
Only $150 too
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Only benefit I've ever found with Ipods is there large diversity of aftermarket stuff, like protectors etc etc. Otherwise, their revolution is a bit date. Got my Samsung T9 last year, absolutely love it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_iPod_managers
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Originally posted by cav58d
So I just got an IPOD...I uploaded some songs on my uncle's computer, and than when I get home, I downloaded Itunes and went to upload some songs on my computer....As I tried, it told me I would have to delete the songs uploaded with another Itunes, and it can only accept songs from a single itunes....
Is this true? Can Ipod's really only upload songs from the same PC/Itunes?
Haha, DRM pwns joo!!!1ONE
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I got the Zune (80Gb version). Wonderful piece of equipement. I used a utility I found on the web to convert all my itunes music from their protected version to mp3's and downloaded to my zune.
I would image that if you converted your uncles protected itune songs to mp3 you would be good to go.
The program I used is called protected music converter and found it here:
http://www.m4p-mp3.com/ Its a 14 day trial, but it worked well for me.
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Im not a huge fan of iPods but they are not junk.
You prolly have some DRM issues. Ive had em too and it sucks. In my case I had bought some songs on iTunes (free vouchers didnt pay for em). The issue was that I had to verify the iTunes software on both the mac i bought em on and the iTunes software on the other laptop that i wanted to transefer them to. I think you can verify 10 computers and gadgets. When that was done there were no more issues.
That beeing said, ill never buy mp3s. CDs are the only solution unless you dont give a crap about audio quality.
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iPods are freakin' amazing.
Strip the DRM you nubs. (http://www.tunebite.com) Then you can put anything you want on it. I've got 2 shuffles & I gave my g/f an 80g Classic for our anniversry. Picked up the iPod to RCA cable adapters, and we watch whatever she downloads on TV. Shows, podcasts, movies.
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I've got the iPhone, which is a talking iPod, and it's great. The only thing I don't like is what cav58d is running into. Apple is such a big lawsuit target, they went out of their way to make their care for copyright plausible to protect themselves. It means we gots to use iTunes (which is the devil on Windows, it's probably better on MacOS go figure) or something similar.
There are other programs that can manage your music, as moot mentioned.
But save yourself a lot of trouble. Don't encode to AAC, encode to MP3 instead when you're ripping your CDs. That'll cut most of the DRM crap out of your life.
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I love how some people are convinced that ipods are junk. They could never be more wrong. My sister always said ipods were crap so she bopught a creative zin. she never could get it to work. Meanwhile i have never had a problem with my Ipod.
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I owned 3-4 MP3 players before the iPhone, and the iPhone is the one I've used the most so far. The interface is easy, my gripes are pretty low. The second best MP3 player I owned was an Insignia DV-4.
I learned that there are plenty of MP3 players out there with more features, but the usability is the key, and the iPod UI itself is pretty good, which annoys me, because I didn't want to like it.
They aren't this popular because of a fluke, it's actually a good player, and that pisses me off.
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I've got an iPod Nano, I plug it into different computers and it works fine. Getting a Zune in a week though.
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My Creative Nomad Zen Xtra (older model) still works great after like 3+ years. for a while I used it every day at work all day long too.
30gb for back then $190 was a great deal, and 30gb of music is plenty for me I think.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Ipods are junk.
I bought a 4gb RCA brand MP3 player, it works flawlessly. Plus you just copy/paste songs from your computer into the mp3 player, dont even need to run software for it. The PC sees it just like a usb jump drive.
Only $150 too
I used to think Ipods are junk, but they are really nice. Replace the headphones and you are good to go.
back to the question...I have multiple PCs running itunes and uploading songs to my ipod no problems.
also listen to indy007
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Originally posted by GoldenP51
I used to think Ipods are junk, but they are really nice. Replace the headphones and you are good to go.
back to the question...I have multiple PCs running itunes and uploading songs to my ipod no problems.
also listen to indy007
Its not the multiple PC's that are the issue. Its the DRM that Itunes puts on the music. When you download a song from Itunes, that song can only be played on the computer that it is downloaded to...
UNLESS you authorize another computer to play that song as well. You can only have a song authorized on five different computers.
The issue with CAV getting his uncles songs on the IPOD is exactly that. The songs were proabaly only authorized on that computer. To use those songs on another machine, those songs would have to be copied to the new computer and then that computer would have to be authorized to play those songs by logging in as the other person who originally downloaded those songs.
Isn't DRM a b*TcH??
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I'd just like to get ipodhelper.exe turned off. I have itunes, but not an ipod, and don't WANT an ipod, and don't need an ipodhelper program. Sort of like that stupid HPzip12.exe program HP installed that I cannot turn off.
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Originally posted by cav58d
Is this true? Can Ipod's really only upload songs from the same PC/Itunes?
Ignore the FUD above. There is not really a problem unless you're trying to move music from the ipod back onto another computer.
The real problem is that it's a confusing error/warning message.
What you need to do is turn off automatically synchronization. You can drop music from any itunes installation onto the ipod, but you cannot sync with more than one installation. If you mess this up, you can lose everything on the ipod.
It helps to tell itunes to NOT manage or organize your music as well, since that can help you archive your music folders if you keep them organized yourself.
But there is nothing keeping you from dragging/dropping music from any itunes library into an ipod. You just can't synchronize the ipod music back with itunes. So turn off automatic synchronization (not sure exactly what the option is called or what menu it's in) and you'll be fine.
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Originally posted by cav58d
So I just got an IPOD...I uploaded some songs on my uncle's computer, and than when I get home, I downloaded Itunes and went to upload some songs on my computer....As I tried, it told me I would have to delete the songs uploaded with another Itunes, and it can only accept songs from a single itunes....
Is this true? Can Ipod's really only upload songs from the same PC/Itunes?
Yep and this is why I will NEVER buy an Ipod IF I get an mp3 player.
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Don't trouble yourself with reading the rest of the thread, Masherbrum. Facts always get in the way of a good opinion.
;)
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Don't trouble yourself with reading the rest of the thread, Masherbrum. Facts always get in the way of a good opinion.
;)
I'm sorry, I did read it. With any other mp3 player, the above "Requirements for compatibility" aren't necessary. Also, myself spending $400 for something to play semi-quality music is something I don't need. If I desire to listen to music, I'll listen to it through my KEF's.
Thanks for the attempted burn though. :aok
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Ipods are junk.
I bought a 4gb RCA brand MP3 player, it works flawlessly. Plus you just copy/paste songs from your computer into the mp3 player, dont even need to run software for it. The PC sees it just like a usb jump drive.
Only $150 too
The Ipod is not junk, just the firmware. I swapped my Ipod nano 1st gen's os with the one HERE (http://rockbox.org)
and basically I can dual boot the os. Plus it has its own video player (it is kind of buggy though). you can manually put the songs on there and you wont have to worry about Itunes telling you "NO that isnt allowed, Now please go and delete it"
Arian
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The people that have problems with non-iPod systems are simply ignorant in their operation 90% of the time. Erika had a Creative Zen for a long time, until she finally broke it with the usual girl treatment towards valuables.
That said, I'll never own an iPod. Hell, I listen to so little music, I use my PSP.
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Originally posted by Modas
Its not the multiple PC's that are the issue. Its the DRM that Itunes puts on the music. When you download a song from Itunes, that song can only be played on the computer that it is downloaded to...
UNLESS you authorize another computer to play that song as well. You can only have a song authorized on five different computers.
The issue with CAV getting his uncles songs on the IPOD is exactly that. The songs were proabaly only authorized on that computer. To use those songs on another machine, those songs would have to be copied to the new computer and then that computer would have to be authorized to play those songs by logging in as the other person who originally downloaded those songs.
Isn't DRM a b*TcH??
Which is why I said "and listen to indy007"
Strip the DRM you nubs.
:aok
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When do you guys listen to portable MP3 players?
You all drive cars, don't you?
I spend up to 4 hours a day in an underground, with Koss plugs in my ears, reading books and (in the evening) drinking beer.
I lost my player last week, it was an ages-old 512Mb Transcend junk. Got myself a 4Gb Digma instead, payed $66. Trying to get used to a weired interface, but the sound is mush better then I expected.
http://www.digma.ru/products/catalog/multimedia/mp3/mp719/photos/
I chose this one because it has buttons that I can feel and press through my pocket.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
The people that have problems with non-iPod systems are simply ignorant in their operation 90% of the time. Erika had a Creative Zen for a long time, until she finally broke it with the usual girl treatment towards valuables.
That said, I'll never own an iPod. Hell, I listen to so little music, I use my PSP.
I had a Creative MP3 player... it physically broke, poor construction. My iPod Nano is very nice. And I must say, I like iTunes better than WMP. But thats just me.
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Originally posted by Motherland
I like iTunes better than WMP. But thats just me.
So Ipod doesn't work as a USB flash drive!?
what a silly thing.
damn i once had to boot my laptop from a digital camera!...
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Originally posted by Boroda
So Ipod doesn't work as a USB flash drive!?
what a silly thing.
damn i once had to boot my laptop from a digital camera!...
It may, never tried it though. Whenever I download music I just plug in my iPod and iTunes automatically syncs.
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Originally posted by Boroda
You all drive cars, don't you?
No.
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You can use an Ipod as a flash drive/external hard drive by checking "enable disk use' in Itunes.
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Originally posted by GoldenP51
Which is why I said "and listen to indy007"
:aok
At least somebody paid attention. People whine "OH DRM! OH NO! APPLE IS THE DEVIL!"
riiiiiight. Windows Vista is built around DRM. Napster hates Apple, and is NOT compatible with iPods (but is with Creative Zen, etc), and they put DRM into all their files. Everybody puts DRM into their music now. It's just the way it is.
So, strip the DRM you nubs!
I own no music CDs, at all. I do not get my music from torrents or any illegal method. I've paid a grand total of $20 at the iTunes store in the past year. Yet, I have 5000 mp3s, loaded into 3 different iPods, and copied to my parents various non-apple mp3 players (okay that part might be illegal... shhh! don't tell the RIAA!)
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Originally posted by Boroda
When do you guys listen to portable MP3 players?
You all drive cars, don't you?
My car stereo has a USB port, I have a 2gig flash drive. Load the drive, plug it in to the stereo. the stereo also has a XD card slot and an aux port for my mp3 player. No software issues, no DRM issues just plug and play..
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Originally posted by Airscrew
My car stereo has a USB port, I have a 2gig flash drive. Load the drive, plug it in to the stereo. the stereo also has a XD card slot and an aux port for my mp3 player. No software issues, no DRM issues just plug and play..
It's a much easier solution then all that iPod fetish cradles. I advised such radios to all my friends who drive. 2Gb of music is quite enough when you drive for 500km in areas with no FM radio. Much better then popular MP3-CD radios. MP3-CD radios are quite popular here because we have hundreds of MP3-CDs in stores, like "all Pink Floyd" or "all Vladimir Vysotsky", so you don't need to have a computer.
BTW you can use your MP3 flash player plugging it into an USB port too :)
If you have a cheap FM radio in your car (so no one will break the window to steal it) - there are MP3/FM transmitters that are plugged into cigarette lighter socket.
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Originally posted by Boroda
It's a much easier solution then all that iPod fetish cradles. I advised such radios to all my friends who drive. 2Gb of music is quite enough when you drive for 500km in areas with no FM radio. Much better then popular MP3-CD radios. MP3-CD radios are quite popular here because we have hundreds of MP3-CDs in stores, like "all Pink Floyd" or "all Vladimir Vysotsky", so you don't need to have a computer.
BTW you can use your MP3 flash player plugging it into an USB port too :)
If you have a cheap FM radio in your car (so no one will break the window to steal it) - there are MP3/FM transmitters that are plugged into cigarette lighter socket.
I get excellent FM reception problem is I dislike listening to 5 minutes of commericals for 10 minutes or less of music, and constant interruptions by the DJ telling me how great thier radio station is...I have an hours drive in every morning and over an hour back, Radio pretty much sucks....
I agree, the 2gig flash drive holds plenty of music for a weeks worth of driving back and forth to work. And yes I can plug my Mp3 player via the USB also. I also have one of those mp3/fm transmitters that I used before my wife got me my birthday present a few months ago. If you cant get a stereo with a USB port then one of those transmitters are ok, better than nothing, just dont expect great sound, sounds like crappy am radio.
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Originally posted by Boroda
It's a much easier solution then all that iPod fetish cradles. I advised such radios to all my friends who drive. 2Gb of music is quite enough when you drive for 500km in areas with no FM radio. Much better then popular MP3-CD radios. MP3-CD radios are quite popular here because we have hundreds of MP3-CDs in stores, like "all Pink Floyd" or "all Vladimir Vysotsky", so you don't need to have a computer.
BTW you can use your MP3 flash player plugging it into an USB port too :)
If you have a cheap FM radio in your car (so no one will break the window to steal it) - there are MP3/FM transmitters that are plugged into cigarette lighter socket.
Pink Floyd is good. ;)
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Originally posted by Boroda
If you have a cheap FM radio in your car (so no one will break the window to steal it) - there are MP3/FM transmitters that are plugged into cigarette lighter socket.
They're often called FM Modulators here. The problem you'd have with one in Houston depends on the model you own and the stations it can broadcast on. The hispanic stations broadcast at something like 50 times the power level they're legally allowed to, and can/will wash out a modulator sitting directly next to your radio. Nobody says anything to the hispanic stations because then you'd be racist (no, it doesn't make sense, and it's not supposed to appearently).
What turned into a great use for those modulators is actually drive-in movie theaters. Not sure if you have any on your side of the pond (99.9% of them closed here). Instead of huge speaker wire installations, a pole next to your parking spot, and clipping a speaker to your window, you just tune to whatever station they tell you. Much nicer setup.
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Originally posted by JB73
My Creative Nomad Zen Xtra (older model) still works great after like 3+ years. for a while I used it every day at work all day long too.
30gb for back then $190 was a great deal, and 30gb of music is plenty for me I think.
Same one I've got, love it. Kid has an Ipod, most fascist piece of $$$t I've ever seen. I'll never have another product in my house from those apple salamanders
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Originally posted by indy007
What turned into a great use for those modulators is actually drive-in movie theaters. Not sure if you have any on your side of the pond (99.9% of them closed here). Instead of huge speaker wire installations, a pole next to your parking spot, and clipping a speaker to your window, you just tune to whatever station they tell you. Much nicer setup.
Nice solution. We don't have drive-in theaters here, and never had, but it reminds me of J.M.Jarre show in Msk in 1997. I work about 3km from Moscow University main building, and JMJ played there with an incredible laser show at Moscow 850 years celebration. 3 million spectators, all the public transportation was paralyzed. We simply took the keys from our Institute's roof, took chairs, tables, wine and food with us and watched the show listening to live broadcast on FM :)