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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rabbidrabbit on December 27, 2007, 08:49:59 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7161590.stm
If so, that sucks.
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Yup. Gotta wonder when and how a peaceful society might ever exist.
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When she was president of Pakistan her government was supporting openly the Taliban and the Al Kaida. With this help the terrorists of Taliban were nearly able to win the civil war. Only few regions were under control of the Northern Alliance.
I am sorry for the human Bhutto who was killed today and for her family.
But I have to admit that I am not so sorry that now a supporter of the Taliban and the Al Kaida is no longer available to get a new chance to become president of a nation which has nuclear weapons.
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Originally posted by babek-
When she was president of Pakistan her government was supporting openly the Taliban and the Al Kaida. With this help the terrorists of Taliban were nearly able to win the civil war. Only few regions were under control of the Northern Alliance.
I am sorry for the human Bhutto who was killed today and for her family.
But I have to admit that I am not so sorry that now a supporter of the Taliban and the Al Kaida is no longer available to get a new chance to become president of a nation which has nuclear weapons.
Interesting. Al Queada and the Taliban had vowed to kill Bhutto. Recently and publicly.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Interesting. Al Queada and the Taliban had vowed to kill Bhutto. Recently and publicly.
Nevertheless the fact remains that during the time, when she was president of Pakistan she was not only corrupt (like so many pakistani presidents before and after her) but she was supporting massively the Taliban and Al kaida during the Afghan Civil war.
Would you trust someone like her that she wouldnt repeat the same way of politic ? Now this danger is no longer existent and its only a minor question if she was killed by taliban, Al Kaida or Musharrafs agents.
If the killers were from Taliban and Al Kaida this would just be a new Frankenstein-monster-case.
Bhutto helped to create the monster Taliban/Al Kaida and finally has become their victim.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Interesting. Al Queada and the Taliban had vowed to kill Bhutto. Recently and publicly.
"Honor among thieves"...
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Originally posted by babek-
When she was president of Pakistan her government was supporting openly the Taliban and the Al Kaida. With this help the terrorists of Taliban were nearly able to win the civil war. Only few regions were under control of the Northern Alliance.
I am sorry for the human Bhutto who was killed today and for her family.
But I have to admit that I am not so sorry that now a supporter of the Taliban and the Al Kaida is no longer available to get a new chance to become president of a nation which has nuclear weapons.
Most ironic indeed. She is the only woman in history to lead a Muslim nation.
Yet, the Taliban believe in oppressing women. So if she had lived under their rule, she would have been uneducated and relegated to only being a mother and housewife, only able to leave her home under escort of a male relative. She could not have held a job of any kind.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by babek-
When she was president of Pakistan
She was never President of Pakistan. :aok
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This is really, really bad.
Things are going to get ugly in a hurry.
I see a civil war happening in a country that has nuclear weapons.
A) It looks like Perez Musharif had some sort of hand in it.
B) Musharif will blame Al Khaida
C) Civil war in a country where Al Khaida lives in the Afhani-border mountain country and has free reign in regions of the country where Musharif is afraid to enforce law...is going to be a mess.
A portion of the Pakastani military supports terrorists, and terrorism.
If the invasion of Kuwait was a matchstick...
The assination of Bhutto will be a powderkeg at a gas station.
68ROX
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Originally posted by babek-
Nevertheless the fact remains that during the time, when she was president of Pakistan she was not only corrupt (like so many pakistani presidents before and after her) but she was supporting massively the Taliban and Al kaida during the Afghan Civil war.
Would you trust someone like her that she wouldnt repeat the same way of politic ? Now this danger is no longer existent and its only a minor question if she was killed by taliban, Al Kaida or Musharrafs agents.
If the killers were from Taliban and Al Kaida this would just be a new Frankenstein-monster-case.
Bhutto helped to create the monster Taliban/Al Kaida and finally has become their victim.
It isn't that I trusted her, or supported her. She was Prime Minister, by the way, not completely sure of the parliamentary make up of Pakistan, but a quick perusal of the papers shows a difference.
You mention the Taliban, Al Queada, and Musharraf, but not Butto's original opponent Nawaz Sharif. Bhutto proposed negotiations with Musharraf, Sharif refused.
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Originally posted by babek-
Nevertheless the fact remains that during the time, when she was president of Pakistan she was not only corrupt (like so many pakistani presidents before and after her) but she was supporting massively the Taliban and Al kaida during the Afghan Civil war.
Would you trust someone like her that she wouldnt repeat the same way of politic ? Now this danger is no longer existent and its only a minor question if she was killed by taliban, Al Kaida or Musharrafs agents.
If the killers were from Taliban and Al Kaida this would just be a new Frankenstein-monster-case.
Bhutto helped to create the monster Taliban/Al Kaida and finally has become their victim.
Give us a link showing her to be President and her support of Taliban Al Kaida.
Mac
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Originally posted by 68ROX
This is really, really bad.
Things are going to get ugly in a hurry.
I see a civil war happening in a country that has nuclear weapons.
A) It looks like Perez Musharif had some sort of hand in it.
B) Musharif will blame Al Khaida
C) Civil war in a country where Al Khaida lives in the Afhani-border mountain country and has free reign in regions of the country where Musharif is afraid to enforce law...is going to be a mess.
A portion of the Pakastani military supports terrorists, and terrorism.
If the invasion of Kuwait was a matchstick...
The assination of Bhutto will be a powderkeg at a gas station.
68ROX
Not too much to worry about. Just remember they country to the east of them ALSO has nukes and is a bigger enenmy than we are. I put my money on India.
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Why is this such a revelation? This region has seen nothing but killing and civil war. They have been killing each other for the last 2000 years, probably much longer than that. Bhutto's assasination will ignite nothing but more of the same.
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Originally posted by 68ROX
This is really, really bad.
Things are going to get ugly in a hurry.
I see a civil war happening in a country that has nuclear weapons.
A) It looks like Perez Musharif had some sort of hand in it.
B) Musharif will blame Al Khaida
C) Civil war in a country where Al Khaida lives in the Afhani-border mountain country and has free reign in regions of the country where Musharif is afraid to enforce law...is going to be a mess.
A portion of the Pakastani military supports terrorists, and terrorism.
If the invasion of Kuwait was a matchstick...
The assination of Bhutto will be a powderkeg at a gas station.
68ROX
Please provide evidence that shows Musharraf had a hand in it. I'm not saying he didn't, but you're saying he did. I'd like to see the evidence.
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I don't think he had anything to do with it. He would be VERY stupid if he did.
I think it was just a well planned assasination. Its really difficult to stop an assasination by a suicide killer.
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Originally posted by AWMac
Give us a link showing her to be President and her support of Taliban Al Kaida.
Mac
Use Google and make a crosscheck between the time of her presidenty and the Taliban in Afghanistan.
You will find more than enough links, telling about the support of Pakistan and the Pakistan government for the Taliban and Al Kaida terrorists.
In 1996 you own news agency CNN reported that "The Taliban are widely alleged to be the creation of Pakistan’s military intelligence [the ISI], which, according to experts, explains the Taliban’s swift military successes.” [CNN, 10/5/1996]
An analysis of the german university of Kassel came to the conclusion that Benazir Bhutto was "the mother of the Taliban" http://www.uni-kassel.de/fb5/frieden/regionen/Pakistan/bhutto.html
Benazir Bhutto was prime minister of Pakistan between 1988 and 1990. She was re-elected in 1993 but lost her position 3 years later because of corruption-scandals.
During her rule she supported the Taliban in Afghanistan who - thanks of the help of Bhutto and Pakistan - came to power in Kabul.
Bhutto and Pakistan supported the Taliban with money and with military equipment. For that she got the nickname "Mother of the Taliban".
That she was maybe killed by the Frankenstein-monster she created herself is a kind of tragic irony of history.
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Originally posted by Tango
I don't think he had anything to do with it. He would be VERY stupid if he did.
I think it was just a well planned assasination. Its really difficult to stop an assasination by a suicide killer.
In a country like Pakistan, where a centralized government is hard pressed to maintain order to begin with, the ONLY surprise is that more of the prominent leaders have NOT been killed.
An assassination in such an environment need not be all that well planned. All that is necessary is to have one to three determined individuals willing to die in order to kill the target. It isn't killing the target that is difficult, it is getting away. If the killer is not at all concerned with getting away, then the ONLY concern is getting close enough, with enough of a weapon.
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Originally posted by Tango
Not too much to worry about. Just remember they country to the east of them ALSO has nukes and is a bigger enenmy than we are. I put my money on India.
Interesting to find out recently that some of the money that we have been giving to Pakistan to fight terrorism was instead spent by them on buying weapons to potentially fight India with.
India, no doubt, did not care for this recent turn of events.
SIG 220
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The peace of the Grave???
I guess when everyone is dead, we will all finally have peace on earth.
The only goodwill, though, will be between the cockroaches.
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Originally posted by SIG220
Most ironic indeed. She is the only woman in history to lead a Muslim nation.
Apart from Tansu Çiller, Mame Madior Boye, Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina Wazed, no? :rolleyes:
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Boy if India had any part of this, that region is gonna glow for a few hundred years.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Boy if India had any part of this, that region is gonna glow for a few hundred years.
Provided Musharef stays in power, I don't see how it would.
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This is Archduke Ferdinand stuff. 12/27/07
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Originally posted by Chairboy
This is Archduke Ferdinand stuff. 12/27/07
In as much as the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was a (and possibly THE) flashpoint for the start of World War I, I'm not at all convinced that this assassination will be the same. It is possible, even likely, that it will create large scale unrest and possibly war in the region. But I do not think it will start a global conflict.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
In as much as the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was a (and possibly THE) flashpoint for the start of World War I, I'm not at all convinced that this assassination will be the same. It is possible, even likely, that it will create large scale unrest and possibly war in the region. But I do not think it will start a global conflict.
How far stretching was World War 1 compared to World War 2?
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There were a lot of alliances kicked in by pre-existing treaties that caused the domino affect of WWI. I don't see that happening here. But you never know.
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WW2 was just part 2 of WW1, so it's one big global conflict.
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Business as usual in the rotten crotch sector of planet earth.
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Originally posted by Yeager
Business as usual in the rotten crotch sector of planet earth.
Yeppers....and another day of Who the frik cares....dead is dead and hopefully they'll finish one another off in the next 200 years or so.
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I am surprised she lasted that long
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Interesting. Al Queada and the Taliban had vowed to kill Bhutto. Recently and publicly.
Have they ever seriously ever tried to whack Mr Musharraf?
Seems to me, he gets light attention from the "terrorists" he publically vows to fight.
I have to believe at this point Mr Musharraf exercised creative efforts to deal with a political opponent.
TIGERESS
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What interesting times we live in.....
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Originally posted by Tigeress
Have they ever seriously ever tried to whack Mr Musharraf?
TIGERESS
Yes, they have. On at least two occasions they have come reasonably close.
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Originally posted by Tigeress
I have to believe at this point Mr Musharraf exercised creative efforts to deal with a political opponent.
TIGERESS
I may be wrong, but I don't think Musharraf is involved.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
How far stretching was World War 1 compared to World War 2?
Countries involved in WW1
Africa
Algeria
Angola
Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
Basutoland
Bechuanaland
Belgian Congo
British East Africa (Kenya)
British Gold Coast
British Somaliland
Cameroon
Cabinda
Egypt
Eritrea
French Equatorial Africa
(Gabun, Middle Congo, Ubangi-Schari)
French Somaliland
French West Africa
(Dahomey, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Mauretania, Senegal, Upper Senegal and Niger)
Gambia
German East Africa
Italian Somaliland
Liberia
Madagascar
Morocco
Portuguese East Africa (Mozambique)
Nigeria
Northern Rhodesia
Nyasaland
Sierra Leone
South Africa
South West Africa (Namibia)
Southern Rhodesia
Togoland
Tripoli
Tunisia
Uganda and Zanzibar
Americas
Brazil
Canada
Costa Rica
Cuba
Falkland Islands
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Guadeloupe
Newfoundland
Nicaragua
Panama
Philippines
U.S.A
West Indies
Bahamas
Barbados
British Guiana
British Honduras
French Guiana
Grenada
Jamaica
Leeward Islands
St. Lucia
St. Vincent
Trinidad and Tobago
Asia
Aden
Arabia
(Bahrein, El Qatar, Kuwait, Trucial Oman)
Borneo
Ceylon
China
India
Japan
Persia
Russia
Siam
Singapore
Transcaucasia
Turkey
Australasia and Pacific Islands
Antipodes
Auckland
Austral Islands
Australia
Bismarck Archipelgeo
Bounty
Campbell
Carolina Islands
Chatham Islands
Christmas
Cook Islands
Ducie
Elice Islands
Fanning
Flint
Fiji Islands
Gilbert Islands
Kermadec Islands
Macquarie
Malden
Mariana Islands
Marquesas Islands
Marshal Islands
New Guinea
New Caledonia
New Hebrides
New Zealand
Norfolk
Palau Islands
Palmyra
Paumoto Islands
Pitcairn
Pheonix Islands
Samoa Islands
Solomon Islands
Tokelau Islands
Tonga
Europe
Albania
Austria-Hungary
Belgium
Bulgaria
Czechoslovakia
Estonia
Finland
France
Great Britain
Germany
Greece
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Malta
Montenegro
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
San Marino
Serbia
Turkey
Atlantic Islands
Ascension
Sandwich Islands
South Georgia
St. helena
Tristan da Cunha
Indina Ocean Islands
Andaman Islands
Cocos Islands
Mauritius
Nicobar Islands
Reunion
Seychelles
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There goes any chance of fair peaceful elections happening in Pakistan. She was the only one who stood any chance of garnering significant support. She is a great loss to her country.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I may be wrong, but I don't think Musharraf is involved.
Yup, too early to speculate on direct involvement but there are a lot of alligations that Ms Bhutto was denied approprate government security.
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by MotorOil1
There goes any chance of fair peaceful elections happening in Pakistan. She was the only one who stood any chance of garnering significant support. She is a great loss to her country.
There have been reported parallels drawn outside the US between Ms Bhutto and her family and JFK and his clan.
Of interest is whether there is going to be a coup and, if so, who will control Pakistani nuclear weapons.
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by Tigeress
Yup, too early to speculate on direct involvement but there are a lot of alligations that Ms Bhutto was denied approprate government security.
TIGERESS
There are a lot of allegations, period.
Was Johnson involved in the death of Robert Kennedy? After all, Johnson was President.
Was Nixon involved in the attempt on George Wallace? After all, Nixon was President.
The point being, both attacks happened right here in the U.S., a much more stable country, even then.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
There are a lot of allegations, period.
Was Johnson involved in the death of Robert Kennedy? After all, Johnson was President.
Was Nixon involved in the attempt on George Wallace? After all, Nixon was President.
The point being, both attacks happened right here in the U.S., a much more stable country, even then.
I truely hope he and his party are not involved.
The US needs reliable friends there.
BTW, didn't Johnson write a sealed letter after the JFK killing not to be opened for 50 years?
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Please provide evidence that shows Musharraf had a hand in it. I'm not saying he didn't, but you're saying he did. I'd like to see the evidence.
READ Hilts....I'm not saying he had a hand in it...I said that people there will THINK he had a hand in it..that it would APPEAR he had a hand in it...it LOOKS like he had a hand in it... (Pretty much a smart assumption on their part, as politicians bumping off their political opposition goes back to Biblical times.) But this early...it's still just an assumption on their part.
If he did or not he still has a major problem because thousands are in in the streets chanting that they THINK he did.
I think it was terrorists. Al Khaida/Taliban knew in advance that her election as Prime Minister would mean their days of having a haven in Pakistan would be numbered...they also did not want to see Pakistan to return to a democracy.
But Musharriff has a MAJOR problem with this:
It's been 25 years since I was a cop, but when it's less than an hour after her assination---and a fire fighter crew comes in and TOTALLY HOSES DOWN the crime scene, destroying forever all the evidence that could have been collected (bomb components--((our FBI & CIA experts can easily track down a bomb maker by studying how a bomb was made)) -- blood samples, fingerprints on the gun, etc.) you have to ask yourself why would they want to do that in such a high profile assination?
Who had the power to order that the crime scene be destroyed?
Musharraf just announced the elections have been called off indefinitely.
Hmmm
68ROX
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Learn to TYPE. Or at least how to adequately express your thoughts.
Nowhere in your post did you state that your position was that OTHERS would say Musharraf (try spelling it correctly) had a hand in it.
THIS, is what you posted:
This is really, really bad.
Things are going to get ugly in a hurry.
I see a civil war happening in a country that has nuclear weapons.
A) It looks like Perez Musharif had some sort of hand in it.
B) Musharif will blame Al Khaida
C) Civil war in a country where Al Khaida lives in the Afhani-border mountain country and has free reign in regions of the country where Musharif is afraid to enforce law...is going to be a mess.
A portion of the Pakastani military supports terrorists, and terrorism.
If the invasion of Kuwait was a matchstick...
The assination of Bhutto will be a powderkeg at a gas station.
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Now, show everyone where you stated OTHERS would say it was Musharraf, but YOU were NOT saying it.
Over there, it is common for a homicide bombing scene to be hosed off immediately. Even Bhutto's people say one person fired on her, then blew himself up. The shooter blew himself to pieces. The shooter/bomber will likely be identified, provided there's enough of him left (there usually is, the Israelis are often successful since the bomber's head is usually blown clear, with not nearly as much damage as you'd expect). The question is not what happened, or who did it, but rather who was behind it. Forensics are not likely to be a big factor anyway.
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I just saw a blurb on foxnews.com about gold prices up because of this and it got me thinking...
this may sound weird and maybe I am being dumb, but there is a local gas station run and staffed by middle-eastern decent people, I don't know where from, I can never tell even though my uncle is 100% Pakistani.
anyway, Sunday night I stopped in to get some smokes, and chatting with the clerk has said something about how I should "invest in gold" and I dismissed it.
related?
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:lol "bahhhhhhhh" go the sheep
do you listen to Michael Savage?
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"It LOOKS like Musharif had a hand in it" says just what it says.
The APPEARANCE that he had a hand in it.
My German Shephard understood it the first time.
Learn to READ.
Jeesh, someone needs to get added to the ignore list.
68ROX
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Originally posted by JB73
I just saw a blurb on foxnews.com about gold prices up because of this and it got me thinking...
this may sound weird and maybe I am being dumb, but there is a local gas station run and staffed by middle-eastern decent people, I don't know where from, I can never tell even though my uncle is 100% Pakistani.
anyway, Sunday night I stopped in to get some smokes, and chatting with the clerk has said something about how I should "invest in gold" and I dismissed it.
related?
Of COURSE! He's your uncle after all...
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Of COURSE! He's your uncle after all...
ba dum bum lol... took me a second to get it, I was about to reply "NO I stopped at a gas station" lol
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Originally posted by 68ROX
"It LOOKS like Musharif had a hand in it" says just what it says.
The APPEARANCE that he had a hand in it.
My German Shephard understood it the first time.
Learn to READ.
Jeesh, someone needs to get added to the ignore list.
68ROX
That statement sounds like you were saying he did have a hand in it.
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Originally posted by JB73
ba dum bum lol... took me a second to get it, I was about to reply "NO I stopped at a gas station" lol
LAWLZ!
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Originally posted by 68ROX
"It LOOKS like Musharif had a hand in it" says just what it says.
The APPEARANCE that he had a hand in it.
My German Shephard understood it the first time.
Learn to READ.
Jeesh, someone needs to get added to the ignore list.
68ROX
Make up your mind. It either looks to you like he had a hand in it or it does not.
Possibly, your German Shepherd is just as dumb as you are. Did you ASK him how many times he read it?
Add away, feel free to ignore that which you cannot deal with.
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Originally posted by JB73
I just saw a blurb on foxnews.com about gold prices up because of this and it got me thinking...
this may sound weird and maybe I am being dumb, but there is a local gas station run and staffed by middle-eastern decent people, I don't know where from, I can never tell even though my uncle is 100% Pakistani.
anyway, Sunday night I stopped in to get some smokes, and chatting with the clerk has said something about how I should "invest in gold" and I dismissed it.
related?
Gold looks pretty strong and is almost always inverse of the value of the dollar.
Better to buy low; sell high.
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Tigeress_ah/goldplot.jpg)
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by Tigeress
Gold looks pretty strong and is almost always inverse of the value of the dollar.
Better to buy low; sell high.
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Tigeress_ah/goldplot.jpg)
TIGERESS
in other words you should of bought gold 2-3 years ago...a little late in the game on this one
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Yes..I look forward to the day we send the 5 century dirty beard men in there pajamas to the grave...
Islam is peace...
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For those who's education, mental status, or possibly English is their second or third language....
"It LOOKS like Musharif had a hand in it" says just what it says.
The APPEARANCE that he had a hand in it.
I FULLY EXPLAINED in easy to read English I personally believe that it was Al Khaida/Taliban terrorists that were most likely behind the murder.
I also explained in simple, easy to understand English exactly why Musharif already has so many fingers pointed at him, any why his past actions and today's having the crime scene destroyed may come back to haunt him, whether he was involved in any way or not.
For folks who cannot read, have an adult or someone you know who CAN read, read and explain this to you...
I FULLY EXPLAINED in easy to read English I personally believe that it was Al Khaida/Taliban terrorists that were most likely behind the murder.
I can see while the "stirring the pot"/"arguing for arguing's sake" has some on this board on so many people's ignore list.
68ROX
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Originally posted by 68ROX
For those who's education, mental status, or possibly English is their second or third language....
"It LOOKS like Musharif had a hand in it" says just what it says.
The APPEARANCE that he had a hand in it.
I FULLY EXPLAINED in easy to read English I personally believe that it was Al Khaida/Taliban terrorists that were most likely behind the murder.
I also explained in simple, easy to understand English exactly why Musharif already has so many fingers pointed at him, any why his past actions and today's having the crime scene destroyed may come back to haunt him, whether he was involved in any way or not.
For folks who cannot read, have an adult or someone you know who CAN read, read and explain this to you...
I FULLY EXPLAINED in easy to read English I personally believe that it was Al Khaida/Taliban terrorists that were most likely behind the murder.
I can see while the "stirring the pot"/"arguing for arguing's sake" has some on this board on so many people's ignore list.
68ROX
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LOL, I think what you should have said was "It LOOKS AS IF, Musharif had a hand in it".
Now all the educated people will understand.
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68ROX/Captain Virgil Hilts
Shaddup!
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unfortunately i think it was the wrong time to come back.
what i dont understand is someone like she who was so west
influenced, entering this region in this difficult times unarmed
and "peacesfully" with flowers, hey its an easy Target for this nuts.
its beyound me, its like a suicide.
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Originally posted by GoldenP51
in other words you should of bought gold 2-3 years ago...a little late in the game on this one
no more like 8 years ago when just before and looked like george would become president :) I think it was $201- 211 at the time and the time to sell it will be in about 1-2 years provided the dems get the big house back. If not wooo hoo it will really go up.
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
unfortunately i think it was the wrong time to come back.
what i dont understand is someone like she who was so west
influenced, entering this region in this difficult times unarmed
and "peacesfully" with flowers, hey its an easy Target for this nuts.
its beyound me, its like a suicide.
I was thinking the same thing...
She could stay out of the country and live or return and die and she loved her country enough to die for it.
It was as if she knew full well she would die and planned to use her future death for a purpose.
A Martyr can have a power that is almost unquantifiable and that can lead to her sons becoming power figures in Pakistan in the future.
I think she also knew the Fundamentalist Islamic groups would never abide a popular and powerful female president. I sure she would have won popular election.
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by Tigeress
I sure she would have won popular election.
TIGERESS
huh?
as arse backwards as those morons are do you really believe they'd have elected a WOMAN to lead them?
I think you are a victim of our brain washing liberal media.
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You realise she was elected PM twice before, eagler?
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The first two times didn't happen?
Tronsky
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Originally posted by -tronski-
The first two times didn't happen?
Tronsky
Western propaganda. :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
You realise she was elected PM twice before, eagler?
does PM = President?
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So, she can be elected PM but no way in hell President?
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Originally posted by Eagler
huh?
as arse backwards as those morons are do you really believe they'd have elected a WOMAN to lead them?
I think you are a victim of our brain washing liberal media.
I am only going by the fact that she was twice elected Prime Minister of Pakistan already, Eagler.
Gee, many Islamists are just people, inspite of the Quran's sociopathic bent.
There are plenty of arse backwards American morons as well. ;) ...who love nothing more than crapping on women who dare to be all they can be.
I chalk it up to their obvious poor self-image and ignorance.
A real man, in my view, is not threatened by women who are strong, smart, educated and accomplished and dare challange their views on what women should/should not be "allowed" to do.
TIGERESS
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Originally posted by GoldenP51
in other words you should of bought gold 2-3 years ago...a little late in the game on this one
You may want to look at the chart again if you think it's too late.
Gold continues to rise, as it always does in a bear or volatile market.
Typed by SteveBailey a little while ago:
As for the economy, I personally suspect that we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg,,, that we are in for a significant recession. I'm out of the market, besides some undeveloped land and gold.
I've added wheat to that since then. We are in for big financial troubles here in the US and a world wide recession, in all likelihood. Many people are blissful in their ignorance as they stick their heads in the sand and ignore the signs.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
So, she can be elected PM but no way in hell President?
in today's Pakistan? imo no
seems everyone has now forgotten the corruption and friendly taliban ways that were her political past...
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
You may want to look at the chart again if you think it's too late.
Gold continues to rise, as it always does in a bear or volatile market.
Typed by SteveBailey a little while ago:
I've added wheat to that since then. We are in for big financial troubles here in the US and a world wide recession, in all likelihood. Many people are blissful in their ignorance as they stick their heads in the sand and ignore the signs.
I am not long in anything at this point, for the reasons you state and also withdrew, and took nice profits, from the market just before the post-Y2K big bear market with the exception of a long position in eBay which paid off very well.
Never held a short position in anything... my ex was a bank VP.
Oil... is just going to keep rising, in my view, as will gold in all likelihood.
I expect to see 200@bbl at some point. I am not sure about a gold ceiling.
I am pretty conservative on investing thus this chart makes me shy away from gold.
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/Tigeress_ah/gold75to07.jpg)
curtesy of--> http://www.kitco.com/scripts/hist_charts/yearly_graphs.plx
Note the relative price of gold during the post-Y2K bear market... it was relatively stable... but gold appears to be tracking post-911 paranoia since 2001 in spite of the major bull market of recent years.
I am waiting to see the effects of a lefty administration I expect to see take office in the form of B&H & Co and get a sense of post-911 paranoia after Bush & Co are out of office.
It's all speculation; gold could be the best investment, or not.
That's what makes market investing a lot like gambling, in my opinion.
(I can only be inticed into playing penny poker lol and never bet more than $2 on a pony on rare instances I have been to a track)
I love tech stocks because I am in the tech industry... but collectively there are better investments for the most part since post-Y2K. :cry
TIGERESS
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anyone have a ball gag for this blow hole?
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071215/capt.ead497bd299642c7bfb32a642df666e9.clinton_2008_nhjc110.jpg)
Clinton demands international Bhutto probe (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071228205909.gmumw5s3&show_article=1)
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My first reaction when I heard she was dead was "it's aBOUT time"...kinda like tossing a cat over a fence at a junk yard and seeing how long it takes the dogs to get it. Surprised there wasn't a pool