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Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 10:45:42 AM
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been in that role for nearly a year now, as the Democrat Congress itself nears the end of its first full year since taking over from the Republicans. On election night 2006 Pelosi made a few promises to the country during her victory speech. Hot Air TV takes a look at those promises and whether the Speaker fulfilled them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvErCRHf-BE
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 28, 2007, 11:09:26 AM
That women has an anoying voice.

Funny stuff though.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 28, 2007, 11:29:36 AM
Yup Michelle Malkin has always struck me as one of the true "fair and balanced" talking heads out there :rofl

shamus
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 11:45:54 AM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Yup Michelle Malkin has always struck me as one of the true "fair and balanced" talking heads out there :rofl

shamus


That doesn't make it any less true!  :aok
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 28, 2007, 12:03:19 PM
Hang on...gonna mosey on over to MoveOn.org so I can post some more true stuff :)

shamus
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 12:04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Hang on...gonna mosey on over to MoveOn.org so I can post some more true stuff :)

shamus


If what they post is fact than I won't dispute it.  Are you telling me that a video of Pelosi speaking on election night is fake?  She never said those things?
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 28, 2007, 12:09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
If what they post is fact than I won't dispute it.  Are you telling me that a video of Pelosi speaking on election night is fake?  She never said those things?


No, I'm saying that the clip reminded me of an old propaganda film, its a hack job. the internet is rife with em... entertaining but thats about it.

shamus
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 12:29:10 PM
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Originally posted by Shamus
No, I'm saying that the clip reminded me of an old propaganda film, its a hack job. the internet is rife with em... entertaining but thats about it.

shamus


SO because it's a "hack job" we should ignore what pelosi said?  I'm not following your logic here.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 28, 2007, 01:24:12 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
SO because it's a "hack job" we should ignore what pelosi said?  I'm not following your logic here.


I know you're not, but I would say that the motive of the producers of that clip and    

are about the same


They all said it didnt they?

this film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o)
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: AKIron on December 28, 2007, 02:02:01 PM
It's almost always good when a democrat fails to fulfill their promise. :aok
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: john9001 on December 28, 2007, 02:09:32 PM
Pelosi lied to us, impeach her.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 02:24:24 PM
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Originally posted by Shamus
I know you're not, but I would say that the motive of the producers of that clip and    

are about the same


They all said it didnt they?

this film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o)


"motive of the producers of that clip and are about the same"

???

I'm not seeing a comparison here.  YOu saying because somone has an agenda we should discount what they have to say outright?

Fact:  Pelosi made promises
Fact:  She did not fulfil one of them

1+1=2 here to me
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Dago on December 28, 2007, 05:18:03 PM
Pelosi is a weapon of mass ugly.  Accomplished nothing except make the demodorks look bad.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: FBBone on December 28, 2007, 05:56:37 PM
Dago, I have stolen your avatar................:p
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Dago on December 28, 2007, 08:18:39 PM
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Originally posted by FBBone
Dago, I have stolen your avatar................:p


You are welcome to it, the message needs to get out!  :aok
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: rpm on December 28, 2007, 09:16:18 PM
Guns, they could the same hatchet job on just about any of Bush's speaches. BTW, I'm no fanboi of Pelosi. Weak and ineffective.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: CptTrips on December 28, 2007, 10:21:46 PM
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Originally posted by AKIron
It's almost always good when a democrat fails to fulfill their promise. :aok


You must get a lot of enjoyment out of life.  

:cool:,
Wab
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 10:33:29 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Guns, they could the same hatchet job on just about any of Bush's speaches. BTW, I'm no fanboi of Pelosi. Weak and ineffective.


That's just it.  It's not a hatchet job....those are direct quotes and this isn't about Bush.  Don't confuse the issue here buddy :aok
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: rpm on December 28, 2007, 11:11:56 PM
I'm not confusing the issue. Politicians taken to task on their grandious speeches.  You could pull almost any politician's speach and do the very same thing.

FWIW this Congress has done more to damage the Democratic party than any I can remember. But, to be fair there was a woman running things.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 28, 2007, 11:40:18 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
But, to be fair there was a woman running things.



LMAO  :rofl

Imagine what hillary is gonna do.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: rpm on December 29, 2007, 12:06:23 AM
Which is why I'm supporting Ron Paul. (If Ithought Kucinich had a snowballs chance, I'd back him.)
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 29, 2007, 08:51:03 PM
Hot air is about right :rofl

shamus
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 29, 2007, 08:59:02 PM
This is kinda comical..watch it a few more times Gunslinger :)

shamus
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 29, 2007, 09:13:56 PM
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Originally posted by Shamus
This is kinda comical..watch it a few more times Gunslinger :)

shamus


I don't get the sarcasm Shamus but I hope I don't have a reputation on this board as die hard conservative.   I've always maintained that I am a "south park conservative"  (look it up).  

Either way I think compared the republican congress....this congress sucks.

When the republicans took power they had a bunch of bills they wanted passed and the dems obstructed them through filibuster.

Now the dems are in power in the congress and they haven't done a dam thing as far as bills that actually do something.  I'd have to look it up but I honestly believe they've past more non-binding bills then they have actual laws.

In a way this is a good thing because a weak federal govt is more power in the hands of the actual people IMHO.  I'd rather them passing non-binding resolutions than anything else.   However, they can't have it both ways.  

Even the ones they do pass are crap.  I'm pissed at the president for signing the current energy bill.  It is absolute crap compared to anything else he's ever agreed to.  It does nothing to help energy concerns and does more to F'up the market more than anything.  Actually this requires a hole nother thread.  Either way the dems aren't living up to their promises.  It's funny because they can't actually live up to their promises because the fringe groups that vote them in oppose different things.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Shamus on December 29, 2007, 09:30:15 PM
Gunslinger, from the beginning  of this I have been responding to the propaganda of the clip and nothing  more.

It really is is a funny clip. but if you insist on saying that it is objective, well then you are a fool.

Sorry but thats it as far as I see it.

shamus
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Gunslinger on December 29, 2007, 10:27:04 PM
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Originally posted by Shamus
Gunslinger, from the beginning  of this I have been responding to the propaganda of the clip and nothing  more.

It really is is a funny clip. but if you insist on saying that it is objective, well then you are a fool.

Sorry but thats it as far as I see it.

shamus


I've never said it is objective but the facts speak for themselves.  The democratic congresional leadership has not met a single promise they made over a year ago.  

The democrats are do nothing leaders.  In a way that's good......but the fact that people still vote for them is bad.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Benny Moore on December 30, 2007, 02:53:25 AM
I wish they were do-nothing leaders.  Then they'd stop trying to steal my guns.
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: T0J0 on December 30, 2007, 08:10:12 AM
GUN.... You have kids right?! You know one can't explain logic to a child....
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: bj229r on December 30, 2007, 09:41:41 AM
Nancy hav REALLY helped in Iraq too!
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Marine Corps Cpl. David Goldich, a University of Virginia graduate who spent two tours of duty in Iraq, says Democratic attacks on the war undermined troop morale.

Cpl. Goldich, who returned from Anbar province in November after about 300 combat patrols, stated in a candid account that negative comments by Democrats had "a dramatic effect on morale, especially on troops who are otherwise indifferent and disdainful of politics in general."

"I cannot tell you how many times I have overheard Marines and soldiers talking about various inconsiderate comments made from the likes of [Sen.] John Kerry [Massachusetts Democrat], [Rep. John P.] Murtha [Pennsylvania Democrat], [Senate Majority Leader Harry] Reid [Nevada Democrat], and [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi [California Democrat] about how we cannot win, how we should be brought home, etc.," he said.

"The Kerry comments really cemented his reputation with the troops and upset people more than anything else. It is unnerving to volunteer for service during wartime hoping to be deployed and having to listen to a politician explain how the troops need to come home, especially when we clearly have not finished what we started.

"There is a widespread perception amongst the Marines I know, even those uninterested in politics, that the Democratic Party does not want us to win in Iraq for whatever reason. This is true even amongst Democrats who still maintain the party viewpoint on almost every other issue but the war. Morale is always a tricky issue to deal with, and it is difficult to tell a Marine to buck up when he sees important people back home undercutting his primary reason for existing at the moment."

Mr. Kerry came under fire in November 2006 when he joked that soldiers in Iraq were "stuck" there because they did not study hard in school.

link (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071228/NATION04/918099949/1008&template=nextpage)
Title: Pelosi's Promises
Post by: Dago on December 30, 2007, 10:33:52 AM
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Originally posted by bj229r
Nancy hav REALLY helped in Iraq too!
 
link (http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071228/NATION04/918099949/1008&template=nextpage)


It is a shame the democrats who make such hurtful self-serving partisan comments that demoralize troops at war can't be tried and hung for "aiding and abetting the enemy".  I would volunteer to pull the lever dropping them myself.