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Title: A larger CV
Post by: DEAR98 on December 28, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
well make it longer and more ack mabye B-25s can off
and reguler sized Cv to esort it.:aok
Title: A larger CV
Post by: MWL on December 28, 2007, 02:06:25 PM
and so, it begins......

Regards,
Title: Re: A larger CV
Post by: Hornet33 on December 28, 2007, 02:23:33 PM
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Originally posted by DEAR98
well make it longer and more ack mabye B-25s can off
and reguler sized Cv to esort it.:aok


The CV in game is an Essex class carrier. The largest CV class to go into operation during WWII. So NO you wont see a bigger CV.

The B-25's of the famed Doolittle raid were highly modified for that ONE mission. So NO you wont see B-25's taking off from the CV's.

Escort Carriers might be interesting but not really needed. Also the aircraft flown from the smaller escort carriers were usually F4F / FM2 Wildcats used for fleet defense so the aircraft onboard would probably be limited to just a few planes.

In short not a well thought out wish and totaly unrealistic in nature.
Title: Re: A larger CV
Post by: VansCrew1 on December 28, 2007, 02:39:44 PM
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Originally posted by DEAR98
well make it longer and more ack mabye B-25s can off
and reguler sized Cv to esort it.:aok




SQUEEK!

:noid
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Saxman on December 28, 2007, 02:42:55 PM
Actually what about instead of one task force type, we would have three:

CV Battle Group - Consists of an Essex-class carrier, a cruiser, and destroyers as we have now. Would have the same aircraft as currently available, but NO LVTs or PT boats.

Bombardment Group - Consists of a battleship, cruiser and destroyers. LVTs can spawn from this task force.

Light Carrier Group - Consists of a CVL or CVE, with destroyers. Can spawn LVTs. Aircraft would include lighter CV fighters and bombers.

IMO I don't think any task force should spawn PTs. AFAIK, PTs weren't transported in this manner.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Stang on December 28, 2007, 03:10:21 PM
Ships in AH are long overdue for at least a graphics upgrade.  If and when HTC does it we at least should get a Japanese class carrier and task force.  If it would be possible to do a couple classes of ships, say Essex and Yorktown for US and Akagi and Hiryu for the Japanese, that would be fun.  Would greatly add to the immersion in PTO scenarios.  Plus it would just look damn cool.
Title: Re: Re: A larger CV
Post by: RAIDER14 on December 28, 2007, 04:40:10 PM
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
SQUEEK!

:noid

release the chicken
 (http://www.sonic.net/~lavalamp/gifs/300chicken.gif)
Title: A larger CV
Post by: AirFlyer on December 28, 2007, 04:45:58 PM
My votes for the Shokaku and/or the Zuikaku if we would get a chance for a new CV. It's not bigger then the Essex(I don't think) and it won't lauch B-25's :lol, but it was a highly used IJN CV from 1941 untill 1944 when they were sunk.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Fulmar on December 28, 2007, 06:38:26 PM
Are the CV's to scale though?  I'd look into it, but I'm at work.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Husky01 on December 28, 2007, 06:45:02 PM
This guy is a troll.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Meatwad on December 28, 2007, 06:53:22 PM
OOOOO battleships! :)


gimme gimme gimme
Title: A larger CV
Post by: DEAR98 on December 28, 2007, 08:24:15 PM
well mabye just up grade it so it dont look like a big gray ship:)
and mabye add the small cannons on the cruiser to be use as gunner
and mabye the DD sherman i think no mabye not the DD sherman
But some jap ships whould look cool
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Spikes on December 28, 2007, 09:02:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DEAR98
well mabye just up grade it so it dont look like a big gray ship:)
and mabye add the small cannons on the cruiser to be use as gunner
and mabye the DD sherman i think no mabye not the DD sherman
But some jap ships whould look cool


1. No
2. You can
3. No
4. Yes
Title: A larger CV
Post by: The Fugitive on December 28, 2007, 09:37:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DEAR98
well mabye just up grade it so it dont look like a big gray ship:)
and mabye add the small cannons on the cruiser to be use as gunner
and mabye the DD sherman i think no mabye not the DD sherman
But some jap ships whould look cool


I lived on a carrier for over 2 years.....they really do look like big gray ships
Title: A larger CV
Post by: DEAR98 on December 29, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
well just make'm look better like some flags or face lift on most of the ships
Title: A larger CV
Post by: SFraptor on December 29, 2007, 11:21:39 AM
i say we get iowa class battle ships i think they were used in ww2 but im not sure
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 11:21:40 AM
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Originally posted by DEAR98
well just make'm look better like some flags or face lift on most of the ships


How about...you go design your own game and you can do what you want to it.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Hornet33 on December 29, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
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Originally posted by DEAR98
well just make'm look better like some flags or face lift on most of the ships


Here is a COLOR photo of the USS ESSEX in WWII. Do you see any colorfull flags or nifty paintjob? It's a Navy ship. They are all painted grey. What we have in game is HISTORICALY accurate.

(http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/pe/toms-mm/tmm-3530/essexcl_pic.jpg)
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Hornet33 on December 29, 2007, 12:20:51 PM
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Originally posted by SFraptor
i say we get iowa class battle ships i think they were used in ww2 but im not sure


The Iowa class BB's were indeed used in WWII. Only 4 were built with the 5th and 6th ships of the class scrapped before they were completed.


USS Iowa BB-61
USS New Jersey BB-62
USS Missouri BB-63
USS Wisconsin BB-64
USS Illinois BB-65 (not completed)
USS Kentucky BB-66 (not completed)

The 4 completed ships all served in the Pacific during WWII and Korea. The USS New Jersey was reactivated for one year during Vietnam in 1968 and served 1 tour of duty in theater before being decomisioned again. In the early 1980's all 4 were brought back to active duty and served for several years before being decomissioned for the last time. The Iowa was decomisioned in 1990 after an explosion in one of her turrets. New Jersey was decomsioned in Febuary 1991. The Missouri and Wisconsin did serve in Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm in 1991 and both were decomisioned within a year after the Gulf War.

I used to drive past this everyday on the way to work. The CVN in the background is the USS Enterprise on her way to drydock at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Wisconsin_museum.JPG)

Here is a trivia question for everyone though. Of the 4 Iowa class BB's built which one is the largest and why is it larger than the other 3?
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Oleg on December 29, 2007, 12:48:20 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Here is a COLOR photo of the USS ESSEX in WWII. Do you see any colorfull flags or nifty paintjob? It's a Navy ship. They are all painted grey. What we have in game is HISTORICALY accurate.


Not all, actually ;)

http://gotouring.com/razzledazzle/articles/dazzle3.html
Title: A larger CV
Post by: DiabloTX on December 29, 2007, 01:22:12 PM
I'm going to guess here and say the Wisconsin is the "largest" (I guess you mean longest?) by way of her bow being damaged in a collision, she had the bow of the Kentucky grafted on her, as BB-65 & 66 were intended to be larger Iowa's.

But that's my guess.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Hornet33 on December 29, 2007, 01:43:10 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
I'm going to guess here and say the Wisconsin is the "largest" (I guess you mean longest?) by way of her bow being damaged in a collision, she had the bow of the Kentucky grafted on her, as BB-65 & 66 were intended to be larger Iowa's.

But that's my guess.


Ding Ding Ding....we have a winner. Yes sir, the Wisconsin is 11 feet longer and several tons heavier  than the other three Iowa class BB's.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: bobtom on December 29, 2007, 10:45:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Ding Ding Ding....we have a winner. Yes sir, the Wisconsin is 11 feet longer and several tons heavier  than the other three Iowa class BB's.


that sounds kind of wierd "the USS Wisconsin is an Iowa class battleship."

anyway wtg Wisconsin!


bobtom
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Hornet33 on December 29, 2007, 11:47:52 PM
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Originally posted by bobtom
that sounds kind of wierd "the USS Wisconsin is an Iowa class battleship."

anyway wtg Wisconsin!


bobtom


The Wisconsin was built to the same specs as the other three Iowa class BB's but she had a colision with a destroyer in 1958 or there abouts and had to have her bow replaced. They grafted the bow off the Kentucky which was designed as a larger version of the Iowa class BB's and she ended up 11 feet longer and heavier than the other three Iowa's. Therefor she is the largest battleship ever to have served in the US Navy and the largest of the Iowa class BB's.

It's a small distinction but trivia never the less.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Hoffman on December 30, 2007, 12:52:15 AM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
They are all painted grey. What we have in game is HISTORICALY accurate.
 



Ahem... CV-16... The U.S.S. Lexington was not painted Grey during WWII.




Hey Yoshi, what's that ship's name?
-The Lexington.
Didn't we sink her the other month at Coral Sea?
-Yes... why yes we did...
Now she's back... and its blue...
-Uhh... sink it again!

Several weeks later.
Hey Yoshi, what's that ship's name?
-Uhh... intercepts say.. its the Lexington.
Didn't we sink her the other night?
-Yes... why yes we did...
Its still blue.
-Uhh... sink it again!

Several months later.
Hey Yoshi, what's that ship's name?
-Uhh... Lex-ing-ton...
I know for a fact we sank her months ago!
-Yes... why yes we did...
And its a brighter shade of blue!
-Uhh... sink it again!

Several months later.
Yoshi, that stupid ugly blue thing is back!
-The Lexington?
What other ship in that fleet is blue?!
-The 4 other Lexingtons we sank?
We have no choice this time!  We shall have to sink it personally ourselves!
-Uhh... okay.

American Pilot, several weeks later.
Y'know Joe, you might be on that fancy new Carrier 'n all... but when all those ships are together in a fleet, I know exactly which one I have to land on.
-That's because your stupid ship is blue... lucky dog... I actually landed on the Hornet yesterday, they laughed at me all day... even let me get down to the bunk section before telling me I was on the wrong ship.
Title: Re: A larger CV
Post by: gear on December 30, 2007, 08:34:21 AM
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Originally posted by DEAR98
well make it longer and more ack mabye B-25s can off
and reguler sized Cv to esort it.:aok


  Read this. Of course you'll have too land on the cv first .
http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/Japan/03/shklovsky/shklovsky.htm:aok :aok(http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/histories/cv08-hornet/hornet42doo.jpg)
Title: why?
Post by: VansCrew1 on December 30, 2007, 09:37:06 AM
Why?

The B25 was only used once off of a CV. It would be a wasted effort. Rather see another bomber or fighter. Or a battle ship would be nice. And if the CV was bigger it would be even easier to kill with buff's then they are now.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Helm on December 30, 2007, 09:45:49 AM
Why?  ....it's simple!....Ben Affleck did it!!....so therefore we MUST have it!!


:rofl
Title: A larger CV
Post by: rabbidrabbit on December 30, 2007, 01:03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Helm
Why?  ....it's simple!....Ben Affleck did it!!....so therefore we MUST have it!!


:rofl



I still think the toon co pilot should look like him...  with a big gay smile beaming back at you.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Saxman on December 30, 2007, 01:15:03 PM
Ok, sure, let them launch B-25s off a CV.

But with a limited bomb load and broom handles for guns. Which is how the Doolittle Raiders did it.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: RATTFINK on December 30, 2007, 06:06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Actually what about instead of one task force type, we would have three:

CV Battle Group - Consists of an Essex-class carrier, a cruiser, and destroyers as we have now. Would have the same aircraft as currently available, but NO LVTs or PT boats.

Bombardment Group - Consists of a battleship, cruiser and destroyers. LVTs can spawn from this task force.

Light Carrier Group - Consists of a CVL or CVE, with destroyers. Can spawn LVTs. Aircraft would include lighter CV fighters and bombers.

IMO I don't think any task force should spawn PTs. AFAIK, PTs weren't transported in this manner.



Excellent idea.  


See DEAR98, that's a WISH

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   well mabye just up grade it so it dont look like a big gray ship


You have got to be kidding me...
Title: A larger CV
Post by: zoozoo on December 30, 2007, 11:29:56 PM
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/ahss96.jpg)  


(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/ahss95.jpg)  


we took off, landed, and recorded it if ya wanna see the vid
Title: A larger CV
Post by: zoozoo on December 31, 2007, 07:00:45 AM
also, the way we backed up was by putting our manifold around 13, if you do that your plane backs up
Title: A larger CV
Post by: VansCrew1 on December 31, 2007, 08:46:02 AM
lol that was in the TA.

Ive done it many times on a CV. It's not that bad as long as you give your self enough room on the right wing. Back up all the was and you can take back off no problem.
Title: A larger CV
Post by: zoozoo on December 31, 2007, 11:02:30 AM
We did it in the MA too and took off and got a few kills =)
Title: A larger CV
Post by: RATTFINK on January 01, 2008, 12:12:14 AM
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Originally posted by zoozoo
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/ahss96.jpg)  


(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii275/zoozoo13/ahss95.jpg)  


we took off, landed, and recorded it if ya wanna see the vid




AW3S0M3!!!1!!!ONE!!
Title: A larger CV
Post by: Spikes on January 01, 2008, 12:24:17 AM
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Originally posted by DEAR98
well mabye just up grade it so it dont look like a big gray ship:)


Oh, and why don't you take a look at EVERY CV EVER MADE...notice they were almost all gray?