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Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Chairboy on December 28, 2007, 03:26:25 PM
From the AOPA boards, here's a selection of ATC excerpts from the last Concorde takeoff in the US:

http://fly.blakecrosby.com/blog/files/speedbird2.mp3

Pretty cool, wish I had been there.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: SouthLanda on December 28, 2007, 06:37:56 PM
I had the privelige of standing a few hundred feet away from the runway, during the last Concord take-off out of Sydney Australia.

It was a memorable experience....it was a wet day, a jet of steam came out the back of the jet like a dragon. It was noisy, but not like an F-15 at full afterburner.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: texasmom on December 28, 2007, 06:55:54 PM
Nice post ~ I enjoyed listening to that ~ thanks
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Mickey1992 on December 28, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
That was cool.  Thanks.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: USRanger on December 28, 2007, 11:23:20 PM
Thx for posting that.  A nice feel-good story.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: rpm on December 28, 2007, 11:32:29 PM
It's too bad that America's premier commercial aircraft company could not come up with a worthy opponent. I guess the French win this one, and that's just sad.
Maybe if they weren't so focused on driving the competetion out of business things would have been different.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Pei on December 29, 2007, 12:42:24 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
I guess the French win this one


It was called "Concorde" for a reason.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: rpm on December 29, 2007, 12:50:09 AM
Why wasn't Boeing's retort called the Surrender for the same reason?
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: MiloMorai on December 29, 2007, 01:10:29 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
It's too bad that America's premier commercial aircraft company could not come up with a worthy opponent. I guess the French win this one, and that's just sad.
Maybe if they weren't so focused on driving the competetion out of business things would have been different.

Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde

Aérospatiale is French

BAC is British
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: MORAY37 on December 29, 2007, 03:39:02 AM
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Originally posted by SouthLanda
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It was a memorable experience....it was a wet day, a jet of steam came out the back of the jet like a dragon. It was noisy, but not like an F-15 at full afterburner.


Too bad F15 noise is only a memory now.  She'll be retired now, as well.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: rpm on December 29, 2007, 03:48:31 AM
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde

Aérospatiale is French

BAC is British
Boeing is US
Lockheed-Martin is US
Bell is US
:confused:
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: MiloMorai on December 29, 2007, 05:49:22 AM
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I guess the French win this one

Yes rpm, be sure the French and the British put it to the Americans. :p
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2007, 08:02:38 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
It's too bad that America's premier commercial aircraft company could not come up with a worthy opponent. I guess the French win this one, and that's just sad.
Maybe if they weren't so focused on driving the competetion out of business things would have been different.
We (Boeing, Lockheed) had a worthy opponent, but the program was killed.  There was this movement against air pollution in the 70's and the FAA put noise restrictions on every US airport.  Kind of hard to sell a supersonic airplane that isn't allowed to fly supersonic over the US let alone the lack of customers willing to buy one. Perhaps if we just did it for national pride....:lol
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Boroda on December 29, 2007, 12:37:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
We (Boeing, Lockheed) had a worthy opponent, but the program was killed.  There was this movement against air pollution in the 70's and the FAA put noise restrictions on every US airport.  Kind of hard to sell a supersonic airplane that isn't allowed to fly supersonic over the US let alone the lack of customers willing to buy one. Perhaps if we just did it for national pride....:lol


Rip, face it: you had two competitors in the market and it was already too late for Americans ;)

I wonder if Tu-144 was supposed to be sold for export, if it could get decent engines. Maybe it could be saved by buying foreign engines, like P&W.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: FrodeMk3 on December 29, 2007, 11:16:54 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Rip, face it: you had two competitors in the market and it was already too late for Americans ;)

I wonder if Tu-144 was supposed to be sold for export, if it could get decent engines. Maybe it could be saved by buying foreign engines, like P&W.


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We (Boeing, Lockheed) had a worthy opponent, but the program was killed. There was this movement against air pollution in the 70's and the FAA put noise restrictions on every US airport. Kind of hard to sell a supersonic airplane that isn't allowed to fly supersonic over the US let alone the lack of customers willing to buy one. Perhaps if we just did it for national pride....


You fellas' talking about it makes me wonder also, if fuel economy wasn't part of it. Flying Supersonic doesn't exactly put a turbine into "fuel miser" mode. How much would fares have to be to make up for it?
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Chairboy on December 29, 2007, 11:31:33 PM
There's some new anti-boom technology out that should make cross-land supersonic travel feasible.  It'll be interesting to see how that develops.
Title: Last words from the Concorde in the US
Post by: Wolfala on December 30, 2007, 07:04:42 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g1wHbLWSvlo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Ko2VoKcZI

I have a video that was up on JFKTower.com but long since taken down. Will try to see if I can host it up.