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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SIG220 on December 29, 2007, 04:31:03 PM
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This news video is a true story:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/12/29/preston.pizza.delivery.murder.kmov
SIG 220
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Heard the story on the radio last night. WTG on the pizza guy that killed a lowlife thieving scumbag
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Awesome. Simply awesome.
Take that, scumbag!
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It's the classic "order a pizza, steal the pizza" scam. It's why some neighborhoods can't get pizza delivered to them.
I've known people who've done this. It's a big joke to them. Of course, they're idiots.
I wonder if the pizza delivery guy will get fired. I'm sure Domino's has a "No armed deliverey people" policy.
wrngway
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Originally posted by AWwrgwy
It's the classic "order a pizza, steal the pizza" scam. It's why some neighborhoods can't get pizza delivered to them.
I've known people who've done this. It's a big joke to them. Of course, they're idiots.
I wonder if the pizza delivery guy will get fired. I'm sure Domino's has a "No armed deliverey people" policy.
wrngway
I really hope not. In the clip it stated he had a CCW from another state. The police were quoted as saying "it would have been valid in this state as well". Does that mean it IS valid and it was a "clean kill" so to speak? I sincerly hope the driver doesnt get screwed on this. Citizens defending themselves should no be punished for it.
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Latest from the local news website. It looks like they caught the accomplice that ran away, and they will charge him with second degree murder.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=137519
(KSDK) Even though police say he didn't pull the trigger, second degree murder charges have been filed against a teenager investigators say ran from the scene of a deadly shooting Thursday night in Pagedale.
18-year old Rodney Reese is also charged with first degree robbery and armed criminal action.
Police say Reese and 19-year old Brian Smith ordered a pizza Thursday night. When the delivery man tried to deliver the pizza, police say Reese and Smith and robbed him at gunpoint.
Investigators say the delivery man pulled out his own gun and fired back striking Smith. He died the scene.
Police say Reese ran off with the pizzas, soda and delivery man's wallet which officers later found at Reese's home. Bond for Reese is set at 250-thousand dollars.
<> Picked up by other station's site too.
http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_localnews_071229_pizzarobbercharged.64760757.html
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wtf? his friend got shot and he still ran away with the pizza and soda?
how messed up is that? I mean.. i wouldve dropped those those things to run away faster lol
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Sic semper banditos. :aok
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Warms my heart when a scumbag dies.
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I'm glad they caught the other perp. Maybe the delivery dude will get his wallet back when it's no longer needed as evidence. Glad to see they're charging the live perp with murder too.
Even at their relatively young age, someone who thinks it's a good idea to commit an armed robbery for a pizza and the "less than $20 change" the delivery dude carries certainly gets no sympathy from me. I'm happy to see people like that removed from society permanently. It simply escapes me how any human being in the US could possibly see that as being either a good idea, or somehow necessary to maintain their existence. Yea, in a starvation situation in Africa, I can see taking someone's pizza at gunpoint. In a suburb in the US... Just not necessary no matter how "disadvantaged" or whatever they might think they are.
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I axe you where being Jesse Jackson? He jus be wanting to be eating, and the Man gotta kill him.:cry
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With the dead guy being named "brian smith", the perps might have been white boys. That means Jesse Jackson couldn't possibly care less. The only way he'd even notice is if the delivery dude was black and it looked like the cops were going to hassle him.
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Originally posted by eagl
With the dead guy being named "brian smith", the perps might have been white boys. That means Jesse Jackson couldn't possibly care less. The only way he'd even notice is if the delivery dude was black and it looked like the cops were going to hassle him.
Look at the links I posted for a pic of the perp they arrested. The video link by Sig has some interviews with folks from the neighborhood where the robbery attempt occurred. So, while you can't be 1000% sure about the dead perp, you can hazard a guess.
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Because this act doesn't fit the media template . . .
. . . and because the criminal element always learns the wrong lesson . . .
. . . watch out for a news story in the near future of a delivery person who was shot and killed before the perps rob him, and how those perps thought they needed to do this because of this incident, etc. etc. Then cue the talking heads who will say the best thing to do is to just give in to whatever mugger/robber/criminal wants instead of fight back to avoid the same fate, blah blah blah.
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Although I applaud the pizza guy, its still a shame a life was lost over what 50 bucks?
Thugs..its hard to feel sorry for em.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Although I applaud the pizza guy, its still a shame a life was lost over what 50 bucks?
The life wasn't lost over $50. The life was lost because the dead guy threatened someone with deadly force. Basically threatened to kill someone, and that someone killed him first.
Seriously filth, nothing personal but your statement is really quite typical of the liberal criminal anti-gun apologists. You're making it out like the issue was the $50. That wasn't it at all. The issue was that the perp stuck a gun in someone's face, threated to take not only $50 but his life, everything he HAS, take that person away from his family, maybe a wife and dependent children. That's what the life was lost over. The perp threatened to take much much more than $50 from that delivery dude.
And seriously, since the perps were willing to rob a pizza guy at gunpoint, what makes you even briefly think that the perps planned on leaving the guy alive and able to identify them? Wishful thinking. I think the pizza guy was lucky to get out alive, not just lucky it was only $50.
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Pity stories like this dont garner more national media.
Of course it wouldn't fit their anti-gun mantra.
Surprised Lazs hasn't chimed in yet
Kudos to the driver for being able to survive the attack and defend himself.
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WTG Pizza Guy!
Yoy're a Higgly Town Hero!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by E25280
Latest from the local news website. It looks like they caught the accomplice that ran away, and they will charge him with second degree murder.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=137519
<> Picked up by other station's site too.
http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_localnews_071229_pizzarobbercharged.64760757.html
That would suck: Life in Prison, and all he got was a wallet and a pizza.
He will probably be a big butt for inmate jokes.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by eagl
With the dead guy being named "brian smith", the perps might have been white boys. That means Jesse Jackson couldn't possibly care less. The only way he'd even notice is if the delivery dude was black and it looked like the cops were going to hassle him.
If they were, they were very brave white boys. They interviewed a bunch of folks in the neighborhood on the news, and everyone in the news broadcast was black.
SIG 220
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Originally posted by eagl
And seriously, since the perps were willing to rob a pizza guy at gunpoint, what makes you even briefly think that the perps planned on leaving the guy alive and able to identify them? Wishful thinking. I think the pizza guy was lucky to get out alive, not just lucky it was only $50.
That is very true. Many Pizza deliverymen have not survived this type of robbery.
SIG 220
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It's too bad the other kid didn't choke on the pizza he took, that might have solved alot of paperwork really fast.
I would never ever think of doing something like this to get a pizza (OR ANYTHING FOR THAT MATTER!), I'd rather mooch of my friends then threaten some guys life. Or even better, buy the pizza, like a normal, decent person.
Geez.
to the guy who delievered that pizza.
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I deliver for "That place" as a second job. Heh.
There's certain neighborhoods we won't go into after dark, for sure. I've never been robbed at gun point, but I have been threatened with physical harm (sans weapons) unless I gave the four dudes the pizzas for free. I wished to god right then that I knew kung fu, or some crazy israeli martial art stuff...
Before I worked at the store I'm at, it was full on robbed by three guys with guns. Apparently they were pissed off that the safe was timelocked and they had to wait fifteen minutes to get the $300 that was inside.
And to venture a guess... I'd say the pizza guy in this situation was either straight fired, or let go somehow. The rules are: Never carry more than $20. If you are robbed, and lose more than $20. You are automatically fired. Plus you don't get reimbursed. Also, there is a "no weapons in the store" policy. Doesn't say anything about your car... But not in the store.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Although I applaud the pizza guy, its still a shame a life was lost over what 50 bucks?
Thugs..its hard to feel sorry for em.
The only shame involved is that he didn't kill the other SOB, too.
Moral: marksmanship practice is essential.
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negros are seven times more likely to commit violent crime against whites than the other way around.
I think that shooting back is the way to go. Besides.. we are better shots.
You can't have a good riot without negros but... You can't really have a good serial killing without white guys.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
You can't have a good riot without negros but... You can't really have a good serial killing without white guys.
lazs
Riots are more about the chance to steal in large quantity than anything else.
Lazs, you remind me of the saying "Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do". :D
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Oh no.. white guys are really good at killing people with guns.. we just don't do it unless we are nuts or it really needs to be done.
When someone really really needs to be shot.. you need to get a white guy onto it. We enjoy our work.. sure.. we pretend not to but... we like guns.. we study em and we collect em and we shoot em and we take pride in getting good with em.. some minorities look at em like they are some kind of accessory to their outfit or attitude.. the way they look in the hand is more important than hitting something... they are just a dangerous prop for some.
for us.. they are history and pride and recreation.
That of course is all a generalization and a simplification but it is not far off the mark.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
When someone really really needs to be shot.. you need to get a white guy onto it. We enjoy our work.. sure.. we pretend not to but... we like guns.. we study em and we collect em and we shoot em and we take pride in getting good with em..
Have no fear, white women are training that out of us in our public schools to start with. Life will one day be safe for criminals and oppresive governments all over the world.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Have no fear, white women are training that out of us in our public schools to start with. Life will one day be safe for criminals and oppresive governments all over the world.
"white women" and "liberals" are synonymous.
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You can't have a good riot without negros but... You can't really have a good serial killing without white guys.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl classic.
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Originally posted by culero
The only shame involved is that he didn't kill the other SOB, too.
Moral: marksmanship practice is essential.
I was going to post something very similar.
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Sorry pizzaguy, One Kill and One Assist is not enough to get your name in lights.
:noid
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It may not get his name in lights, but he got bounced by the horde, killed one, chased another off, and landed his kill. So he does have bragging rights.
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Wait, do we know the name of the guy who got shot? Golfer hates pizza delivery dudes, and he hasn't posted here in a while....
ruh-roh.
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Chill out Eagl wtf. Didnt I say I applauded what he did? You dont see senseless death as a shame? Im about as liberal as Beaver's dad. Dont jump all in my sh-t like you know something.
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Awhile back there was an almost identical story to this, but I think it happened to a Dominoes Pizza driver in Indiana I believe. May have been a Pizza Hut Driver, anyway he too had a ccw and protected himself because the kid pulled a 9mm on him. He was fired because they did have a "No Gun" rule.
I remember the parent company is Pepsi Co. and I now try my damndest to not give my money to PH, KFC, and Pepsi Products. My buddy loves Mt. Dew. You know how hard it is to buy soda for him knowing I'm giving money to an organization that feels the life of the criminal is more important than the life of the person who is out making money for them?
Sad the kid lost his life and its gonna more than likely bite for the delivery driver who took the kids life. I'm sure it wasnt on his list of things to do in his life. Good thing is the kid aint gonna be trying to rob threaten anybody elses life.
Wolfy
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in my state almost everone caries around cocieled wepons whether they have a lisence or not
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Chill out Eagl wtf. Didnt I say I applauded what he did? You dont see senseless death as a shame? Im about as liberal as Beaver's dad. Dont jump all in my sh-t like you know something.
I said it wasn't personal. But still, whether you knew it or not, what you wrote was straight out of the gun control criminal apologist playbook. Saying that someone was killed over the trivial matter of the stolen item is a classic trick used to divert attention from the reality of the situation, which is that the person was killed because he threatened or attempted use of deadly force during the commission of a crime.
The criminal apologists will say that lethal self defense is NEVER justified because no stolen object or amount of money is worth a human life. They totally gloss over the fact that the criminal either threatened to take, or attempted to take the life of the victim, and that threat or attempt is what justifies lethal self defense.
I'm not all in your sh**, I'm pointing out that you, apparently unwittingly, were using a straw-man argument that is the classic anti-gun liberal criminal apologist response to almost ANY lethal self defense situation resulting in a dead perp.
Sorry you took it so personally, but you really need to know what you're really saying when you post stuff like that.
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The pizza delivery guy needs to spend some time on the shooting range. It shouldn't take 5 shots to take out 1 bad guy, and there should have been a body count of 2.
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Originally posted by bcadoo
The pizza delivery guy needs to spend some time on the shooting range. It shouldn't take 5 shots to take out 1 bad guy, and there should have been a body count of 2.
A year ago San Francisco police officers killed a young man inside a movie theater who was screaming that he was going to kill everyone in the theater. People all ran in terror from the theater, thinking he was a mad gunman about to kill folks.
4 officers quickly arrived and fired their pistols at him, after pepper spray was ineffective. One emptied all 15 rounds from his gun. Another officer panicked, and later admitted that he fired 9 shots blindly from his gun, without even aiming, after another officer accidentally shot him in the buttocks from behind. He thought the guy had shot him.
It turned out, the fellow had no gun, and was mentally ill. He apparently hallucinated during a gun battle that was being shown in the movie, and thought that the movie was actually reality.
The city of San Francisco had to pay the guy's mother $500,000 to compensate her for the loss of her son. Her lawsuit claimed that the police were inadequately trained, and had used unnecessary force.
So even trained policemen often shoot poorly during a crisis.
SIG 220
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when police used revolvers and had higher standards the average gun fight was 1.7 rounds. today it is either 7 or 9 depending on source.
lazs
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Yeah!!! Woooot yehaaaaa...... Scumbags 0 Good Guys 1
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house i lived in a while ago couldn't get pizza deliveries for a while, eventually we convinced them to. asked the driver why the big deal and it turns out some driver got hit over the head with a bat at the crack house up the street.
thugs got what they deserved, just would be nice to not have to think you need to rob a pizza guy or anyone for that matter. oh well, won't have this problem when i live in the middle of no-where off the grid with my home defense shotgun.
::and "farm" :)
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Nice, think of the money this pizza driver has saved the taxpayers of St. Louis and the state of Missouri on future arrests/incarcerations/trials/etc. I'd say a cash reward is in order.
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I admit to not being well versed in the intricacies of your justice system, but why is the surviving "perp" charged with 2nd degree murder? Who was murdered? :huh
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His pre-meditated actions helped lead to the death of his accomplice.
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That's real weak. Charging a man with murder when he hasn't actually killed anyone is wrong.
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He was an accomplice in the crime that his buddy died in. Pretty common here. If you run from a crime scene and a pursueing officer crashes and is killed you can be charged for causing that too.
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That's unreasonable IMHO. Being held criminally responsible for somehting you did not do, intend or foresee is not justice. That's oppression.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's unreasonable IMHO. Being held criminally responsible for somehting you did not do, intend or foresee is not justice. That's oppression.
Then we can live with the knowledge you won't move here quite happily.
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Oh you can be sure THAT will never happen. Why would anyone?
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Originally posted by Viking
That's real weak. Charging a man with murder when he hasn't actually killed anyone is wrong.
Something we can agree on. I don't like these laws.
If they had killed the delivery guy instead, then yes, the accomplice should be held responsible, even if he didn't pull the trigger or expect it to be pulled.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's real weak. Charging a man with murder when he hasn't actually killed anyone is wrong.
If he'd taken the time to talk his mate out of robbing somebody at gunpoint then maybe he'd not be in the position he is in now.
If it was he holding the gun and his mate been the one that bought it he'd still be charged with second degree murder.
He participated in a malicious illegal act while armed (by proxy) and somebody died. Grounds for murder 2.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's unreasonable IMHO. Being held criminally responsible for somehting you did not do, intend or foresee is not justice. That's oppression.
But he DID do it. See, he and his buddy decided they'd pull an armed robbery, a violent felony. In the process of committing that felony, his buddy was killed. So the surviving felon VOLUNTARILY decided to participate in a violent felony that resulted in death. That's second degree murder.
In this country, when you commit a violent felony, you are responsible for the results, plain and simple, because had you NOT committed said felony, the results would not have occurred. Had the pizza delivery guy been killed, BOTH thugs would be responsible, because a person died during a felony they committed. It's a very reasonable law, because it makes ALL of those who commit a violent felony responsible for the results.
So, you don't want to do time for murder? DO NOT commit a violent felony. Then you don't have to worry about your buddy killing a victim, and getting you murder charge, and you don't have to worry about your buddy getting his stupid thug bellybutton killed and getting you charged with murder. Simple really, don't commit a crime, alone or with a buddy, and you don't have to worry about doing time for it.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's unreasonable IMHO. Being held criminally responsible for somehting you did not do, intend or foresee is not justice. That's oppression.
That made me chuckle, as I imagined Al Sharpton saying it. But I digress...I'm dusting off my picket sign and will head down to St. Louis posthaste to protest the oppression of this upstanding gun-toting robber. Poor guy prolly just wanted a pizza and some beer money, and I bet the next payday at his full time job isn't until Jan 2nd! Sometimes our government can be really out of control.
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Originally posted by SIG220
A year ago San Francisco police officers killed a young man inside a movie theater who was screaming that he was going to kill everyone in the theater. People all ran in terror from the theater, thinking he was a mad gunman about to kill folks.
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The city of San Francisco had to pay the guy's mother $500,000 to compensate her for the loss of her son. Her lawsuit claimed that the police were inadequately trained, and had used unnecessary force.
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SIG 220
Thats ridiculous he was batshiznet crazy, if anything his mother should have had to pay San Fran back for 20 some bullets. If people cant function in a civilized society with out being medicated to the nines they should be locked up where they are only a danger to themselves
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So, what's next? Giving speeding tickets to passengers perhaps? Guilty by association is a form of "justice" we abandoned in medieval times. Well, if it works for you...
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Originally posted by Viking
So, what's next? Giving speeding tickets to passengers perhaps? Guilty by association is a form of "justice" we abandoned in medieval times. Well, if it works for you...
If we are all about guilt by association, we would assume you were a Jew killing Nazi SS member like some of your countrymen were.
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Yeah, well don't you? Seems you keep bring it it up in every other thread. WTG on proving my point there Dago :lol
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Originally posted by Viking
So, what's next? Giving speeding tickets to passengers perhaps? Guilty by association is a form of "justice" we abandoned in medieval times. Well, if it works for you...
There is a difference between being a passenger in a car exceeding the speed limit and being one of a pair of thugs robbing a victim at gunpoint. An OBVIOUS difference ANYONE can see. Actually two.
In case you need them illustrated.
The speeding car isn't a felony. And no one was killed.
But then, you knew that.
And YES, IT DOES work for us.
Just as a bonus. The two thugs conspired together to commit a crime. Had they not conspired and committed a crime, no one would have been shot.
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I agree, the guy had a choice about participating in a felony that could have resulted in someone getting killed.
The guy who is a passenger in a speeding car may not have even been aware any law was being broken.
It's fitting that you use an automotive example, because I am going to counter it with one. Here if you are caught driving whilst your passenger is not wearing a seatbelt and has no permit for not wearing one, YOU the driver are charged as well as the passenger because YOU had a CHOICE whether to drive anyway or not.
If the robbery had gone the other way and Pizza Guy had been shot, both guys would have been charged with first degree murder. It all comes down to CHOICE. If you choose to participate in an armed robbery, you are just as guilty of committing the crime or contributing too the demise of anyone else participating in said criminal action as the guy holding the gun.
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Like I said ... If it works for you guys. Enjoy your police state gentlemen. And btw. happy new year.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
There is a difference between being a passenger in a car exceeding the speed limit and being one of a pair of thugs robbing a victim at gunpoint. An OBVIOUS difference ANYONE can see. Actually two.
In case you need them illustrated.
The speeding car isn't a felony. And no one was killed.
But then, you knew that.
And YES, IT DOES work for us.
Just as a bonus. The two thugs conspired together to commit a crime. Had they not conspired and committed a crime, no one would have been shot.
Typical it has to be spelled out for Viking, he is kinda dense.
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Originally posted by Viking
Like I said ... If it works for you guys. Enjoy your police state gentlemen. And btw. happy new year.
Happy new year to you too :)
Now back to business :t
Simple yes/no answers will suffice.
Did the criminal have a choice to participate in an action that could have cost someone his or her life?
Do you not agree than by knowingly participating in the crime he is just as responsible for the outcome as the guy holding the gun?
Do you not agree that this criminal should be held accountable for his actions?
If you answered yes to 2 or more of these questions, then how can you disagree with the fact he was charged with contributing to the death of his friend?
If he pulled the trigger himself he would have been charged with first degree murder. I think the confusion is relating to the misunderstanding of the way crimes are categorised in the USA. In all likelihood the charges will be bargained down to involuntary manslaughter and armed robbery (what he would probably be charged with here in Australia) and he will get a year or two if that.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's real weak. Charging a man with murder when he hasn't actually killed anyone is wrong.
Actually, it's in line with well established US law. There have probably been hundreds of cases where everyone participating in armed robbery that resulted in a death were convicted of murder even if they didn't pull the trigger.
The whole point is that they deliberately participated in the comission of a crime aided by the use or threat of lethal force, and since a death is a quite logical outcome of such an act, there is every reason to hold them all accountable for the death.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's unreasonable IMHO. Being held criminally responsible for somehting you did not do, intend or foresee is not justice. That's oppression.
BS. Someone participating in an armed robbery should "reasonably" forsee that a death is a possible (even probable) outcome. That makes them just as guilty if a death occurs because they "helped" just as much as if they held a victim down while another perp shot him.
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"Sorry you took it so personally, but you really need to know what you're really saying when you post stuff like that." -eagl
Guess I'll just check with you before I post to make sure what I type is correct. Seriously, you need to realize all folks have different opinions about things. You were to quick to assume I was condemning the pizza guy. I simply said senseless death is such a waste. Bah, interpret it as you wish.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
"Sorry you took it so personally, but you really need to know what you're really saying when you post stuff like that." -eagl
Guess I'll just check with you before I post to make sure what I type is correct. Seriously, you need to realize all folks have different opinions about things. You were to quick to assume I was condemning the pizza guy. I simply said senseless death is such a waste. Bah, interpret it as you wish.
I am curious, other than an old person dieing, what death isn't senseless?
And, how is the death of a thug who holds up pizza guys senseless? Makes great sense to me.
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I can understand where FiLtH is coming from.
Because the death was related to a senseless act therefore it is in itself a senseless waste of what could have been a fruitful life. Once again it comes down to the choices.
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Originally posted by SD67
Happy new year to you too :)
Now back to business :t
Simple yes/no answers will suffice.
Did the criminal have a choice to participate in an action that could have cost someone his or her life? ALL actions can potentially result in costing someone his or her life. Like driving to work for instance. So "yes".
Do you not agree than by knowingly participating in the crime he is just as responsible for the outcome as the guy holding the gun? Yes, but ... He only participated in armed robbery, not the "murder" of his accomplice.
Do you not agree that this criminal should be held accountable for his actions? Yes, but only for HIS actions.
If you answered yes to 2 or more of these questions, then how can you disagree with the fact he was charged with contributing to the death of his friend? I disagree that he contributed to the death of his friend. If he had not been there his friend would still be dead.
If he pulled the trigger himself he would have been charged with first degree murder. If I'm not mistaken first degree murder requires premeditation. I don't see premeditation to commit murder in this case (the shooter was in fact defending himself).
I think the confusion is relating to the misunderstanding of the way crimes are categorised in the USA. In all likelihood the charges will be bargained down to involuntary manslaughter and armed robbery (what he would probably be charged with here in Australia) and he will get a year or two if that.
Originally posted by eagl
BS. Someone participating in an armed robbery should "reasonably" forsee that a death is a possible (even probable) outcome. That makes them just as guilty if a death occurs because they "helped" just as much as if they held a victim down while another perp shot him.
The man is guilty of being an accomplice to armed robbery ... nothing more. To hold him criminally responsible for the death of the other robber is unjust IMHO. In another case from the United States of Freedomland a man was charged with murder because a cop killed himself driving to the scene of this man's minor criminal offense. These laws are insane and represents an increasingly sick and twisted justice system. Again IMHO.
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i plan on robbing the Pizza Pizza delivery guy today..last night i ordered a small pizza with 6 toppings(& a 40 minutes or free promise) and they never showed up.When i phoned them to report this,they were closed.
This has happened several times,the last i was put on hold for 2.5 hours before i got my free pizza..The time before that was like last night where they didn't show & din't answer the phone.The time before that they phoned me back 30 minutes after i ordered(10 min left on delivery guarantee) to "re-confirm" the order & of course to restate "40 min or free" from the confirmation...showed up 20 minutes late & wouldn't give me my free pizza!!!
Not today...i'm gonna order the same small 6-topping pizza i ordered last nite & when the box is in my hands say"thanks for my free pizza" and shut the door on him..Then i'll deal with conglomerate merry-go-rounders on the phone...Why such drastic measures?
Would you eat food,a freebie,made fresh by some pizza'd off Arab that just got trouble from head-office for not showing up again) ?
i hope he doesn't have an open-carry permit.
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Don't do it! You might be charged with MURDER if the pizza delivery guy kills himself by driving like an idiot (most of them do in my experience).
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viking.. I guess if you are going to commit a violent felony in the U.S. the trick would be to do it by yourself so that you could control the killing(s) better.
lazs