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Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: SIG220 on December 29, 2007, 05:13:30 PM
Can the NY Giants pull it off tonight?   They rallied really strong against Washington last week, and won going away.   And they are playing at home tonight too.

The Patriots have absolutely nothing at all to gain by winning, except for team pride and going down in the history books.  They are already guaranteed having the home field for the rest of the playoffs.

What do you think?   Vegas is currently making the Patriots 14 point favorites.  

Would you take that bet???

SIG 220
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Holden McGroin on December 29, 2007, 05:22:41 PM
It all depends on who shows up.  If Bill has enough points in the third quarter to let his first string sit out till the playoffs, 14 points might be a good spread to take the Giants.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: DiabloTX on December 29, 2007, 05:23:53 PM
If it will permanently quiet the '72 Dolphins I'm all for a Pats blow out.  Hell I'll even take a last minute field goal for the win.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on December 29, 2007, 05:33:37 PM
Even if they have kept saying that 16-0 isn't that big a deal I still think NE will start out with all regular starters tonight.
That record is actually giving NE more to play for than NYG, which can't really change their playoff route, win or lose.

All that said I've still bet on NYG with a 13.5 spread (at my usual betting site). More based on a hunch really.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 29, 2007, 05:39:14 PM
I predict that Penn State will win.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: DiabloTX on December 29, 2007, 05:43:37 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I predict that Penn State will win.


No way man, Ags all the way!
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: SIG220 on December 29, 2007, 05:50:13 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I predict that Penn State will win.


Alas, I bet on the University of Oregon when they got to the #2 National ranking.

Now they will be playing a minor bowl game with their 4th string quarterback, one of their two star running backs still out, and the other one still not back to full health.

SIG 220
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Holden McGroin on December 29, 2007, 06:03:55 PM
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Originally posted by SIG220
Alas, I bet on the University of Oregon when they got to the #2 National ranking.


(http://www.jimriverreport.com/china/20060514/CIMG1531_md.jpg)

No ducks...

(http://www.salem-news.com/spimg/march222007/osu_beavers300.jpg) (http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/65_90027.jpg)
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: SIG220 on December 29, 2007, 06:21:36 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
(http://www.jimriverreport.com/china/20060514/CIMG1531_md.jpg)

No ducks...

(http://www.salem-news.com/spimg/march222007/osu_beavers300.jpg) (http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/65_90027.jpg)


The Beavers did play an awesome game last night, didn't they???

I have a bad feeling that the same is not going to happen to the Ducks.  They are developing quite a bad record in bowl games.   While the Beavers are 4-0 for their recent Bowl game performances.

SIG 220
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Hawk78th on December 29, 2007, 06:40:55 PM
Pats--17         :aok

 NYG -- 10


 Hellva game though.......

 time  now 1941 (EST)

 game  starts 19 minutes +/-
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2007, 06:50:06 PM
pffft. they got a team called the beavers? :lol those poor little fellas
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Holden McGroin on December 29, 2007, 06:54:09 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
pffft. they got a team called the beavers? :lol those poor little fellas


The Oregon State University has an engineering school.  Beavers build dams.

What does a Gamecock or a Terrapin do?

Longhorns are raised for slaughter.  An Aggie is a ... aint it a rock?
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2007, 06:56:47 PM
alright, alright... I'll stop throwing rocks in my little glass house :lol
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2007, 07:09:06 PM
I will be rooting the Giants but I think the Pats will win.
The undefeated regular season has already been done (albeit a 14 game season then...)  It will mean nothing unless the Pats win the SB. If they are fortunate enough to win the SB, then they will be the 2nd team to have a perfect season, and an asterik next to their name with mention of cheating.

'72 Dolphins would have walked all over these guys.:aok
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2007, 07:50:09 PM
OMG, the NFL definately wants to see Pats win this one, Webster was just flagged for a BS call...the Pats receiver pushed off Webster and Webster gets the flag.

B.S............
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: E25280 on December 29, 2007, 07:55:42 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
OMG, the NFL definately wants to see Pats win this one, Webster was just flagged for a BS call...the Pats receiver pushed off Webster and Webster gets the flag.

B.S............
What do you mean, "this one?"  That has been a pattern ever since the whole "tuck rule."
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 08:09:48 PM
Close game! 14-13
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: eagl on December 29, 2007, 08:15:13 PM
Funny thing about the 3-network simulcast, the two "regular" networks have so far failed to show that they deserved to be allowed to broadcast the game.

On NBC, so far they've played the audio for commercials during the first 5 minutes of the game including during the national anthem, and the audio is not synchronized with the video half of the time.  It's off by quite a noticeable amount especially during commercials.

On the other station (CBS?) the video quality is so poor, I can't watch it.  The top bit of the screen looks like a poorly adjusted 20 year old tube tv (wiggly and colors off), the brightness/contrast is off on the entire screen, and there is a light colored band about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the screen.

NBC video quality is essentially perfect as far as I can tell, watching it over digital cable on a 37" LCD.

Irritating...  It's like they're new at this or something (insert old rolleyes here)
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2007, 08:15:58 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
Close game! 14-13
Definately entertaining first half. I predict a typical Manning fold, and Pat win.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2007, 08:17:13 PM
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Originally posted by eagl
Funny thing about the 3-network simulcast, the two "regular" networks have so far failed to show that they deserved to be allowed to broadcast the game.

On NBC, so far they've played the audio for commercials during the first 5 minutes of the game including during the national anthem, and the audio is not synchronized with the video half of the time.  It's off by quite a noticeable amount especially during commercials.

On the other station (CBS?) the video quality is so poor, I can't watch it.  The top bit of the screen looks like a poorly adjusted 20 year old tube tv (wiggly and colors off), the brightness/contrast is off on the entire screen, and there is a light colored band about 1/3 of the way down from the top of the screen.

NBC video quality is essentially perfect as far as I can tell, watching it over digital cable on a 37" LCD.

Irritating...  It's like they're new at this or something (insert old rolleyes here)
We';re watching NFL network on 37" LCD (HD) and its perfect too.:aok So perfect in fact I think Randy Moss needs to trim his nose hairs.:huh
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: eagl on December 29, 2007, 08:21:47 PM
I don't get HD cable (or satellite) until I finish my MBA.  I *should* be writing a paper right now...  Good thing the wife is out shopping :)

Oh.  Wait.  Oh hell.  She's out... damn.

:confused:

:(

:mad:

:furious
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: eagl on December 29, 2007, 08:25:44 PM
Pats take the lead on 3 field goals...  Reminds me of San Diego one year...  They had a couple of games one year where they'd win something like 33 to 21, with no touchdowns.  Crazy.

Still, if they can keep marching down the field and nailing those field goals, and their defense keeps up the pressure, that's not all that bad of a result.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 08:41:13 PM
21-16
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: E25280 on December 29, 2007, 08:47:59 PM
Heck of a first half.

As well as the Giants defense has been playing, they will have to play better to pull off a win (i.e. turnovers and force punts instead of give up field goals).
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 09:07:50 PM
28-16...Giants are striking!
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: bj229r on December 29, 2007, 09:09:34 PM
OMG! Giants get TD  28-16, 8 or so left in 3rd...Giants under impression they can win here:O
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: E25280 on December 29, 2007, 09:23:08 PM
Number 59 needs to learn to read the receiver's eyes, and turn and look for the ball.

He has missed 2 picks and taken one penalty because he won't turn around.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 09:52:34 PM
NE is back up 31-28
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Speed55 on December 29, 2007, 09:54:47 PM
This game is going to wind up being more entertaining than the superbowl.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: bj229r on December 29, 2007, 10:00:38 PM
Oh well, Giants put up good fight---looks like Pats gonna go up by 10
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: E25280 on December 29, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
NE is back up 31-28
That Brady-Moss touchdown is one of those (very rare) moments that makes me wonder if all the :noid  crowd are correct.  The previous play, all the defenders either let Moss go or fell down, giving him an easy, walk-in touchdown, and . . . Moss drops the ball.

Uh-oh, a drop wasn't in the script . . .

So, do the exact same play, and again the defenders are all absent?  :huh


Un be liev a ble.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 10:07:18 PM
There goes Giant's chance...
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Ripsnort on December 29, 2007, 10:09:41 PM
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Originally posted by SpikesX
38-28...Ref$ are striking!

Fixed.:rolleyes:
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 29, 2007, 10:23:50 PM
Dang. Giants gave the Pats a run for their money, putting up one hell of a fight.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Hawk78th on December 29, 2007, 10:31:37 PM
38----35


 WTG   New England...!:aok



 probably better than the Superbowl.......   Stay tuned  though
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: DiabloTX on December 29, 2007, 10:36:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Fixed.:rolleyes:


Stillllllllllllllllllll won't let that Superbowl go, will ya?

:D
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Sixpence on December 29, 2007, 10:39:43 PM
Isn't worth a thing if they lose in the playoffs. They are not 16-0, they are now 0-0. It's time for the second season, the one that really matters
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: FiLtH on December 29, 2007, 10:44:01 PM
HAHA all you Hatriots!

   FU SHula, no matter what, its 16-0 regular season undefeated!

   Great game!!!! TY NYG for the effort! Got my pulse racing!

   To be honest, the superbowl is secondary this time around. I wanted 16-0, and I wanted Brady to beat Mannings record, and Moss to beat Rice's record...oh and get the highest points for season record!

Done
Done
Done
Done!

   Now on to the playoffs! Frankly Im content no matter what :)

 Rip..put on a #12 jersey..you know you wanna :P

 Oh PS..im drunk outta my head lol!!
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: JB73 on December 29, 2007, 11:01:09 PM
God I hate the Patriots.


what a horrible point in life, I have to say I was alive, rooting against them, and didn't watch the game as to not jinx the Giants (whatever I watch alone at home the team I want to win loses ALWAYS).




History made that makes me sad. As a kid growing up honestly learning who Larry Csonka was made me interested in football.


this sucks.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Masherbrum on December 29, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
Where were "all of these Patriot fanboi's when Tony Eason was their QB"?    I know where, not on the bandwagon.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Rollins on December 29, 2007, 11:15:44 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:aok
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: FiLtH on December 30, 2007, 12:18:09 AM
Hehehe...If nothing else..theres that!

    Your suffering shall be legendary...even in hell!
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: SIG220 on December 30, 2007, 12:25:41 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
God I hate the Patriots.

what a horrible point in life, I have to say I was alive, rooting against them, and didn't watch the game as to not jinx the Giants (whatever I watch alone at home the team I want to win loses ALWAYS).

History made that makes me sad. As a kid growing up honestly learning who Larry Csonka was made me interested in football.

this sucks.


But Tom Brady is the All-American Boy.

He even dates super models!!!

His parents live a block from where I grew up.  He was the star football player at our local Catholic High School.  

Every year the Patriots go the Super Bowl, his parents get a permit from the city, and throw a block party for everyone living on their block.  

I wonder if they will have another party this year??

SIG 220
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: MiloMorai on December 30, 2007, 07:32:43 AM
All this hype over a football game reminds me of the spectical of the Roman gladiatorial games. Even the maim and hurt is part of both. Then add the pre-historic victory dances.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: DiabloTX on December 30, 2007, 11:03:42 AM
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Originally posted by SIG220
But Tom Brady is the All-American Boy.

He even dates super models!!!


He may be a super stud quarterback, no doubt about that.  But how he's treated Bridget Moynahan and his love child makes Tom closer to Travis Henry than anything else.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Tattered on December 30, 2007, 04:12:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort


'72 Dolphins would have walked all over these guys.:aok


Are you kidding me???? The Pats would have killed them. The athletes on the field today are of a mich higher caliber than in '72.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 30, 2007, 04:30:48 PM
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Originally posted by Tattered
Are you kidding me???? The Pats would have killed them. The athletes on the field today are of a mich higher caliber than in '72.


Let me rewrite that for you.

"Are you kidding me???? The Pats would have killed them. The athletes on the field today are of a much higher steroid caliber than in '72."
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Spikes on December 30, 2007, 04:37:02 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Let me rewrite that for you.

"Are you kidding me???? The Pats would have killed them. The athletes on the field today are of a much higher steroid caliber than in '72."
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: FiLtH on December 30, 2007, 09:31:50 PM
Im not much of a conspiracy nut, but I did notice the 2nd half of the Miami game, NE just shut down with only 2 TDs to get the record. Like they were saving it for the BIG game. Who knows what goes on behind the closed doors of the owners, the commissioner and the advertizers.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Bronk on December 30, 2007, 10:18:28 PM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Im not much of a conspiracy nut,



Lets see 16-0 season and the last game was scheduled for NFL network only. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

:noid :noid :noid
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 30, 2007, 11:42:56 PM
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Originally posted by Tattered
Are you kidding me???? The Pats would have killed them. The athletes on the field today are of a mich higher caliber than in '72.


To an extent yes todays atheletes are a higher calibre. But thats as much in size as anything else.
But...
  Compairing the two its like comparing apples and oranges.

It was also almost an entirely different game then it is today as well.
So it really isnt fair to even try to compare the two.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Tattered on December 31, 2007, 10:40:09 AM
Ya, I agree.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Tattered on December 31, 2007, 10:43:50 AM
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Originally posted by Tattered
Ya, I agree.




and to most of the rest of the guys left in this thread.. Take your meds.
Title: NY Giants or Patriots Tonight??
Post by: Sixpence on December 31, 2007, 04:04:49 PM
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Originally posted by E25280
That Brady-Moss touchdown is one of those (very rare) moments that makes me wonder if all the :noid  crowd are correct.  The previous play, all the defenders either let Moss go or fell down, giving him an easy, walk-in touchdown, and . . . Moss drops the ball.

Uh-oh, a drop wasn't in the script . . .

So, do the exact same play, and again the defenders are all absent?  :huh


Un be liev a ble.


They gambled, and lost. The corner dropped down on Welker with the linebacker, thinking a quick throw for a first down(which is what the Pats called). Now Moss just sprinted 60 yards, what are the chances he's got gas left late in the game to sprint another 60 yards? They were hoping to guess the play and pick off Brady. But Brady has great vision, he saw it unfold and chucked it downfield. Moss on a safety, they had no chance once the ball was thrown.

Look, you have options, you can double Moss and let them nickle and dime you all the way down the field, or you can take a shot and try to make something happen.

I prefer to let them nickle and dime and hope for a mistake or a lineman gets home and strips Brady. Either way i'm not leaving my safety on an island against Moss, no way.

My guess is they had that play drawn up during the week and practiced it. They were waiting for a chance to use it, and where Moss just sprinted 60 yards late in the game, it was then or never. If they did get the turnover(or incomplete, I think it was 3rd down) and the offense converted that into points, you're in real good shape to win the game.