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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Fencer51 on December 29, 2007, 08:26:31 PM
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Flown by Lt. Werner Gerth. This A8 had a field mixed "green" applied over the original camouflage of 74/75/76.
This is a work in progress. Final wear/tear/smoke/stain/leak has not been applied. I am interested in opinions on whether the wings would have had the green applied as well.
[edit] Oh yeah btw, July 1944. Did I use the correct upper wing crosses?
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/JG3_A8_1.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/JG3_A8_2.jpg)
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And yes Treize, it is another '13'. :noid
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I'm no luftwaffe nut but that's a great looking skin so far fencer
Can't wait for the final edition. :aok
You have any plans for any Yak9U skins in the future by any chance ? :D
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That is kickazz. I love the IV/JG-3 190A-8 Sturmbocke's. I think they had the coolest looking 190s of the war.
Well Done
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Very nice Fencer! The A-8 is my favorite ride.
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Damn Fencer!! You've been busy!!
Man...that is one really nice looking skin. Great work once again!
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that looks nice. :aok
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just had to look again...
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Beautiful, thanks Fencer
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You asked for opinions, so I'll give mine. This is just my opinion, mind you.
You should tone down the cloud layer you use to weather the camo. It just makes it look splotchy. Well, if it was just applied in the field, it's not going to be splotchy. It would be weathered with stains, scuffs, and whatnot, but the color would be more consistent.
It's also hard to see exhaust stains against black, so I would suggest trying them with a shade of brown, or even light grey (darker paints react differently sometimes, it seems). It not 100% accurate, it helps to build the illusion better. Like tweaking the blending on your panel lines depending on what color you have under them, etc.
Definitely looks like an interesting skin!
P.S. Hrm.... They might have just had the white outline crosses....
EDIT: I've got a reference or two on 190A8s (profiles and decal sheets) showing just the late-style crosses, no black filling. One is from JG300 dated July 1944. Not concrete evidence, but supportive evidence.
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OUCH! In a word, "Sexy" !
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Originally posted by Krusty
It's also hard to see exhaust stains against black, so I would suggest trying them with a shade of brown, or even light grey (darker paints react differently sometimes, it seems).
I rekcon he's pretty spot on with the exhaust stains over the black...
(http://www.tgplanes.com/fwpips.jpg)
I have a few images of this aircraft and they all display this same sort of stain.
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As I said, I have not done the smoke/leaks/stains etc etc for this skin yet. :aok
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Where did 11./JG3 operate out of in July '44? Just curious as to its area of operations.
Great job as usual Fencer, I like the overall green, nice change from the usual splinter camo. :aok
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I recall, it was just a suggestion :aok
P.S. Xas, it's really hard to tell how the exhaust stains looked on black paint in a black and white photo :cool:
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Originally posted by Krusty
I recall, it was just a suggestion :aok
P.S. Xas, it's really hard to tell how the exhaust stains looked on black paint in a black and white photo :cool:
Most definitely, mate. In the shot of Pips' 190 the exhaust discolouration looks on-par with Fencer's minimal exhaust scorching so far.
Personally, I think it looks good as it is. A lot of skins in the game have exhaust stains which are quite over the top, in my most humble opinion.
:cool:
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This will be my A-8 skin when it is finished.
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Originally posted by Xasthur
Personally, I think it looks good as it is. A lot of skins in the game have exhaust stains which are quite over the top, in my most humble opinion.
:cool:
I second this.
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Some yes, some no. Certain nations did certain things to certain units. The "elite" of the LW often were well-cleaned, but there are exceptions to the rule. And, as the war moved into 1944 even the so-called "elite" were less well-kept.
Elite being front-line fighters, latest model 190s and 109s.
Look at some 110s around the time of BOB. 109s were well kept but 110s were NOT. The exhaust stains on my 110 skins are based off of some photos I saw at the time.
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Absolutely, Krusty. Some skins are most certainly worthy of very, very dirty paint jobs.
Adding a little variation to the 'postively run down' look is nice, though.
I see it as a nice addition to have a skin included which depicts the aircraft relatively fresh off the production lines.
I plan on doing my JG 26 Priller 190 in a fairly clean style, as all of the photos I have seen of his aircraft show it to be in a good state of maintenace and repair.
Variety is the spice of life, as they say, so a bit of both is a good thing, in my opinion.
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True, true, variety is a good thing. However, having TOO clean a skin breaks the illusion.
Look at my tan JG27 109E skin. It just doesn't look good. I will redo it with more weathering some day, but for now it annoys me.
My very first 2 skins were rejected because I also went the "factory fresh" route -- no stains, no mess, no exhaust, no nothing.
I thought I wanted them that way, but I look back at them now and cringe badly! Don't let the fact it's one of your first skins dictate your lack of weathering.
It can be "clean" but you need to break up the solid colors with some subtle patterns. Something. Anything. Solid, uninterrupted colors look like MS Paint, if you see what I mean.
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Of course, mate, of course.
A skin worthy of submission should have seen at least some action, which would also include conversion training and practice runs.... which would obviously leave exhaust stains, entry marks and what not.
100% pristine would look odd.
Thanks for the tips, though. I will most certainly be adding a decent amount of weathering, it just won't be a dilapidated pile of chit, that's all
:lol
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Any chance this gonna be in game soon? as well as other new skins? next 9 days or so? love to get a half hour in that before I deploy. :aok
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Its been submitted, but it was the monday after everyone got their emails. I doubt it will be in this next pack, but maybe Skuzzy sent it off to be reviewed.
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bahh, I hope I dont have to wait 6 months to get a ride in it...gives me something to look forward to when I return if I do though.
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Originally posted by killnu
bahh, I hope I dont have to wait 6 months to get a ride in it...gives me something to look forward to when I return if I do though.
Is that "if" you have to wait six months, or "if" you come back? I'm a little frightened now... :confused:
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Stay safe over there Killnu.
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looks great fencer!
if i could make one critique, it's that your skins are never anti-aliased. it would make it look a lot smoother if the lines didn't look like staircases, but it's great anyway. it's a little difficult to change all the lines now of course, just a headsup for the next one :)
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Hopefully it is "if" I have to wait 6 months...:)
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
looks great fencer!
if i could make one critique, it's that your skins are never anti-aliased. it would make it look a lot smoother if the lines didn't look like staircases, but it's great anyway. it's a little difficult to change all the lines now of course, just a headsup for the next one :)
You have pointed this out before, and my response is still the same. Where I feel that I can get the anti-aliased lines to look right I will use them. I have tried them on the upper wings of my P-51 template and am not overly happy with the look. I am also trying them on some other areas on another skin I am working on currently.
Mayhaps I am not doing it correctly but the fuzziness of the these when on an angle is not quite what I think panel lines look like. I feel that the staggered lines are more representative and I hope the air worthiness of the cartoon craft do not suffer for it.
Cheers.