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Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Wax on December 29, 2007, 10:18:54 PM
I just got a new X52 stick was working fine and all of a sudden I gets  all wacky.. Out of Calibration in game and windows. I have tryed a Powered USB hub and also this  http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/supp/recalibration.htm (http://www.saitekusa.com/USA/supp/recalibration.htm)

 I have also tryed Reg window drivers and Saitek drivers. I have deleted the stick and started from scratch. Ill fly for an hr or 2 and it just goes wacky again. Has this happened to any of you and did you get a Fix for it.. Thx in advance

Wax
Title: Wacky?
Post by: Hungry on December 29, 2007, 10:59:40 PM
My x52 is about 9 months old.  Outside of my frustration with the SST software/driver matchup issues it has performed really well, mapped in AH no SST.  

But!  tonight for example I had been flying for about an hour when it seemed like the controls got mushy, lack of correct input the plane was much harder to control (same plane type all nite).  This does happen intermittently.  I reboot and everything is fine again.

It doesnt happen all the time and Im running on a stripped down dual boot Win xp with FS autostart so I know (don't think) its something in the backround.  I also run it off of a powered hub.  

My personal opion is its the drivers in my case.  If yours is anything like mine try rebooting the computer, as a quick test.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Wacky?
Post by: Wax on December 30, 2007, 07:10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Hungry
My x52 is about 9 months old.  Outside of my frustration with the SST software/driver matchup issues it has performed really well, mapped in AH no SST.  

But!  tonight for example I had been flying for about an hour when it seemed like the controls got mushy, lack of correct input the plane was much harder to control (same plane type all nite).  This does happen intermittently.  I reboot and everything is fine again.

It doesnt happen all the time and Im running on a stripped down dual boot Win xp with FS autostart so I know (don't think) its something in the backround.  I also run it off of a powered hub.  

My personal opion is its the drivers in my case.  If yours is anything like mine try rebooting the computer, as a quick test.

Good Luck


Reboot Fixes the problem but only temporarily. Or if I unplug the stick and replug it in. But that means having to leave game and do this every few hrs. I do not use the SST software and I also use Win XP. IM just getting very frustrated :furious :cry:D
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on December 30, 2007, 03:15:41 PM
Wax, as much as I like having a disarmed Muppet in the air, I think I may be able to help. At least I hope so.

I had terrible issues with the x52 pro as well. What some one told me was to give your axis at desktop some deadzone and give your x & y dials some deadzone as well. It seems that for some reason the x & y dials act as trim adjustments. Then move your stick through the test page about 4 to 8 times for each control. Then do the same for your controls in AH. I know it did wonders for my stick.

I hope this helps.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Wax on December 30, 2007, 07:29:11 PM
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Originally posted by Getback
Wax, as much as I like having a disarmed Muppet in the air, I think I may be able to help. At least I hope so.

I had terrible issues with the x52 pro as well. What some one told me was to give your axis at desktop some deadzone and give your x & y dials some deadzone as well. It seems that for some reason the x & y dials act as trim adjustments. Then move your stick through the test page about 4 to 8 times for each control. Then do the same for your controls in AH. I know it did wonders for my stick.

I hope this helps.


I will give that a try.. At this point I will try anything.. Thx Getback:D
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on December 31, 2007, 09:22:19 AM
Another thought Wax. Make sure you don't have 2 drivers installed for Saitek. Believe it or not I had this happen. I think I had a beta version and the original showing up at the same time.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: lambo31 on December 31, 2007, 09:38:55 AM
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Originally posted by Wax
I will give that a try.. At this point I will try anything.. Thx Getback:D


where do you give it deadband? I've went to the stick properties in control panel and I don't see it there.

Lambo
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on December 31, 2007, 11:21:56 AM
In the control Panel under game controllers. There should be a test page and the next tab should say "Deadzone".
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: lambo31 on December 31, 2007, 12:48:42 PM
hmmm it seems I don't have that for some odd reason.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: republic on December 31, 2007, 01:22:49 PM
You still having the trouble Wax?  Mine has done that once.  Very weird, just all of a sudden it lost calibration.  Unplug and replug and it's fine.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on December 31, 2007, 02:18:48 PM
Lambo,

You probably need to download the drivers. After I switched from MS Sidewinder to x52 I noticed the change.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Wax on December 31, 2007, 07:08:24 PM
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Originally posted by republic
You still having the trouble Wax?  Mine has done that once.  Very weird, just all of a sudden it lost calibration.  Unplug and replug and it's fine.


Yup still having same dam problem I have tryed many diff things. Drivers,Tweeks, Unpluged,Reinstalled,
I even thought It was the game sound that was doing it and did a fresh install of AH2. There 1 other thing im going to try before I smash this dam stick with a hammer.. IM going to do a fresh OS xp on a new hard drive. If that dont work Ill just smash it.. For some reason I think its windows.. While in the game flying I get a Micro screen freezes when I fire my guns in a fight and thats when it looses calibration. Its really driving me nutz. I cant even use my old stick..Its gone..
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: moot on December 31, 2007, 08:18:24 PM
There's still the possibility that somewhere between the buttons and the motherboard, there's a false contact or something... Make sure you install nothing but the bare minimum for your pc to work (e.g. directx; not the saitek stuff), and let the drivers included with Windows take care of the X52 when you plug it in.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on December 31, 2007, 09:32:39 PM
Did you set your sound to 3/4 acceleration in directx? make sure your gun contol is not also set to some othe control in ah?

Been where you are in the frustration department with my x52 pro.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on January 01, 2008, 02:55:33 PM
Wax, I think I saw you up. So I guess you got it fixed, Great.

Just to let you know what happened to me, I downloaded the SST program and immediately had the same problem. Deleted it and recalibrated and it was gone.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Wax on January 01, 2008, 06:43:13 PM
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Originally posted by Getback
Wax, I think I saw you up. So I guess you got it fixed, Great.

Just to let you know what happened to me, I downloaded the SST program and immediately had the same problem. Deleted it and recalibrated and it was gone.


Nope still having the problem.. Its happens all the time. Some times I can go a 1/2hr or so than it happens.. I Also tryed a new X52 stick I went out and bought today. And it still is happening. So I assume its on my OS. I ordered a new HD and OS and will run only the game off of it. I hope that solves the problem. I shall see..Thx for your help guys:D
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: moot on January 01, 2008, 09:23:26 PM
My gut feeling is that it's a bad contact.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Infidelz on January 04, 2008, 03:18:54 PM
I have the regular X52. The J stick would stop working. All the lights went out. Plug it in etc and it would work. After awhile that didn't help. Took it back and got a new one. Problem solved.

INF>
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: DoNKeY on January 04, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
How do you know if your running it through a powered usb hub?

donkey
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: VonMessa on January 04, 2008, 08:11:12 PM
One must buy a powered USB hub (approx $20) at Best Buy, etc.  It usually has a cord that plugs into your PC and on the other end is a "box" that you can plug 4 or more USB items into.  What makes it powered is that it also has an external plug (for the wall) and that is where it it gets the power.

 All USB items derive their power from the same plug as they send/recieve data from, therefore they (the USB items) are an added draw on your PC's power supply.  Using a powered USB hub eliminates this extra power consumption from your PC's power supply and, in most instances, makes your computer and USB peripherals much happier.
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: sidey on January 06, 2008, 10:11:29 PM
great thread learnt alot,, however i have a different issue with these Stinktek X52's   mine locks up the hat switches intermittently... i can be playing for hours when all of a sudden the top piece (cobras head shaped part) hatswitches and other sundry blue buttons with 2nd safe button,, all lock up  even the rotating mode toggle.. its killing me literally...

im ready to change stik brand and throw this heap of watermelon at something hard

DAMN U TO HELL SAITEK.......
Title: X52 goes wacky
Post by: TMAW on January 08, 2008, 03:40:56 PM
I found at times that the X52 joystick would lock up and not work. I noticed it only happened when I got up from my desk and walked around, then sat down and touched the joy stick it was dead.
What happens is there's a static discharge between the pinky switch and your hand. It happens mainly during the winter months when the humidity in the house is very low.  
It wasn't until I received a major spark that I figured it out.

TMAW
Title: Re: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Yossarian on July 25, 2008, 03:24:43 PM
Bumped for extreme usefulness (sorry Skuzzy... :o)
Title: Re: X52 goes wacky
Post by: SD67 on July 25, 2008, 04:54:03 PM
I really don't know why I've never had these issues :( As hard as I try I cannot get my Saitek gear to miss a beat. :cry
Title: Re: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Getback on July 25, 2008, 05:10:43 PM
How do you know if your running it through a powered usb hub?

donkey

Because you would have plugged the powered hub in.  :P
Title: Re: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Halo46 on July 25, 2008, 06:05:25 PM
I was having similar problems, especially the Z axis. Saitek sent me these instructions, seemed to have worked. Still lose calibration and get spikes now and then, but recalibration seems to knock it out. Hope it might help.

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To recalibrate, first unplug the stick.

Go to start/run and type   regedit.

The registry editor will have a list of folders on the left hand side. Go down into the following folders in order.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (CURRENT_USER if on Vista)
System
CurrentControlSet
Control
Media Properties
Private Properties
Direct Input

Inside the Direct Input folder, delete any folder that begins VID_06A3.

Once done, close the editor. Plug the stick back in and move all the axes (including throttle) through their full range of movement 4 times.

Now go to control panel/game controllers/properties to see if everything is ok on the test screen.
Title: Re: X52 goes wacky
Post by: Ghosth on July 26, 2008, 06:57:15 AM
Wax you running with onboard sound?

Getting microfreeze in game with guns firing is NOT an OS issue, its either a driver/sound card issue, or your running onboard sound, and firing the guns is robbing your CPU cycles.

The fact that its screwing your controller at the same time sounds like a conflict.