Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: rogerdee on December 31, 2007, 02:09:09 PM

Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: rogerdee on December 31, 2007, 02:09:09 PM
Dan as u are the man with the knowledge i was hoping you could tell me if this is a real plane or just a modelers work.

i found this picture but i lost the info i found with it so i am hoping you could give me some help.(http://[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/rogerdee-skins/13295S4_l.jpg)[/IMG]


Happy New Year Guys
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Guppy35 on December 31, 2007, 04:09:50 PM
9th AF bird.  I seem to recall a color shot of it in Bodie's book I believe.  I'll check tonite when I get home from work.
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: rogerdee on December 31, 2007, 04:28:36 PM
no rush dan forget about it tonight go and celibrate the new year.

i know things havent been good and your heart will still be heavey with what has past,so i wish you all the best for 2008
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Fencer51 on December 31, 2007, 04:31:42 PM
I don't want to step on Dan's toes, but..

P-47D-27-RE 'Angie' s/n 42-26860 of the 512th FS/406th FG (9th AF); Asch (Y-26) Belgium, Spring 1945.

Huge profile in Tomasz Szlagor's 'Republic P-47 Thunderbolt Vol. III' by Kagero.  I can scan it in and email it to you if you want it for reference.  The bikini is lighter blue and the profile includes the nose art of to the side as well.
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Guppy35 on December 31, 2007, 11:41:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rogerdee
no rush dan forget about it tonight go and celibrate the new year.

i know things havent been good and your heart will still be heavey with what has past,so i wish you all the best for 2008


Thank you sir, but I enjoy this stuff.  Just in from work and nice to see my memory hadn't failed completely :)

Both from Warren Bodie's book on the Jug.

Hope your New Year is a good one too!

Color image
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Angie2.jpg)

Profile
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Angie1.jpg)
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: rogerdee on January 01, 2008, 07:57:03 AM
thankyou for the help guys
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Xasthur on January 01, 2008, 08:13:56 AM
That wing-mounted weapon under the .50's looks interesting.

What it is?
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Widewing on January 01, 2008, 08:15:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
That wing-mounted weapon under the .50's looks interesting.

What it is?
Bazooka tubes... They're available in the game for the P-38G, P-38J, P-47D-25 and P-51B.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: almost there
Post by: rogerdee on February 11, 2008, 12:54:24 PM
hi guys
its been along time coming but its almost finished.
(http://[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/rogerdee-skins/angie2.jpg)[/IMG] (http://[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/rogerdee-skins/angie1.jpg)[/IMG] (http://[IMG]http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb251/rogerdee-skins/angie3.jpg)[/IMG]

any suggestions guys?
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: angelsandair on February 11, 2008, 02:00:39 PM
ITS SOO PERFECT!!!!  :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Fencer51 on February 11, 2008, 02:33:12 PM
The green anti glare should be black according to the profile and there should be nothing aft of the cockpit.  I would blow up the picture and see if you can tell if there is something on the upper spine aft of the cockpit.

Also look at how the anti glare is curved over the cowling, you did not represent this as well.

Also the "Angie" seems to be off, not quite like it is in the photo.

Plane codes do not match as well, they are not the correct "font".
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Krusty on February 11, 2008, 02:46:19 PM
You have the yellow stop at right angles on top of the nose. It's a nice gradual swoop instead of a hard right turn.

IMO the panel lines on the wings are a bit too heavy, but those on the fuselage look okay. Might be because the wings are always in the light, but it's something to consider.

The black on the tail has a fuzzy border between the BMF and black. This should be a hard line, I'd guess. Also, look at the photo and profile supplied. The black should go straight from the vertical fin to the horizontal fin, but yours extends out ahead of both and curves around.

The color on your fuselage star-and-bar is signficantly paler than the color on the wing star-and-bar.

The bikini isn't blue in any of the references (model, profile, war-time picture) so I'd try changing that to black
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: rogerdee on February 11, 2008, 02:47:04 PM
thanks fencer
i been doing this on and off and missed some of the simplest things.

note to self only women can multi task well:lol
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: rogerdee on February 11, 2008, 03:27:02 PM
i got 2 different profiles for this plane from 2 different sources and a single picture that doesnt show the lettering !!!

funny though how you can miss the simplest of things if you look at something to long
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Fencer51 on February 11, 2008, 05:34:05 PM
No problem, glad to help.

I dug around some and I cannot find any photos of the bird.  I took another look at that profile I sent you.

I think I would go with it's interpretation over the one Dan posted.

I also think I would go with the blue bikini.  I doubt we would see a girl in a black bikini and I believe from the photo that it is indeed blue IMHO.

Use the standard Amarillo USAF font in lieu of that weird looking one on the other profile.

Cheers.

[edit] I blew up the pic.  The upper radio antenae is definately black.  And you can see some black from the canopy aft.  Also the bikini is not the same color as the cowling, I would go with blue.
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Xasthur on February 12, 2008, 05:04:58 AM
My 2 cents would be that the tail section is too black.

In the photo it looks like a matte black and your skin represents the black too deeply.

I'd drop some grey/brown/dark green (very faintly) over the top with a 'dirty' brush to give the black a more blemished complection.

Something like that, anyway.

Nice detail on the panel lines.
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Krusty on February 12, 2008, 09:39:30 AM
Consider this:

The bikini is very dark in that photo. However, it's from the same angle to the light as the tail fin is. The tail fin shows the blue in vibrant color, but the bikini is not. It is almost indistinguishable from the cowling color. I would say make if nearly black. It's definitely not the bright vibrant blue that shows up on the tail.
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Fencer51 on February 12, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
Consider this:

The bikini is very dark in that photo. However, it's from the same angle to the light as the tail fin is. The tail fin shows the blue in vibrant color, but the bikini is not. It is almost indistinguishable from the cowling color. I would say make if nearly black. It's definitely not the bright vibrant blue that shows up on the tail.


Sun is from aft.  Cowlings might be putting shadow and I did zoom in and it is not the same as the nose black.  And Almost is not the same as IS is is it? :rofl

The profile I sent him has everything else correct, so I would believe it over the "appearance" of the photo even assuming you are correct.  Which I do not think you are in this case.
Title: Dan the man a p47 question
Post by: Krusty on February 12, 2008, 11:46:47 AM
Sun is from the side. Note the shadow under the horizontal stabs? It's stretching across the fuslage, which it wouldn't do if the sun were only from behind.

It's at such an angle (about 45 degrees up, 45 degrees off the tail) that it seems to be lighting the entire side of the plane evenly. There is a small shadow (maybe) near the cooling flaps but I still say that the bikini is in no way the bright shade of blue on the skin :D


P.S. Good idea for a skin! Very eye-catching!