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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Tigger29 on January 01, 2008, 01:30:40 PM
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I just thought I'd start a thread so we can compare our AH performance to each other. I think I do pretty well, considering my ancient video card.. maybe we can learn from each other how to get the most out of our systems.
MB/Processor: E6300 Core-Duo/ASROCK Dual VSTA
Memory: 2GB DDR2
Video: Nvidia 6200 256MB AGP
HD: 160GB SATA2
At 512 texts, 1280X1024 I get on average 30-40FPS, with detail sliders about halfway, maxing out at 75FPS when climbing up into the sky, dropping to 20-25 in heavy action.
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Your vid card is holding you back.
I've got:
MB/Processor: E6420 Conroe/ASROCK Dual VSTA
Memory: 2GB DDR2
Video: eVGA Ge7600GTS 256MB PCIe
Sound: SB Audigy1 w/ Boston 2.1 digital spkrs
HD: 110GB SATA1.5
At 512 tex, 1280x1024 resolution (my LCD max) I get 50+ almost all the time. On the deck, with fires blazing, and dozens of cons, I might go down to the 30s or so, but I rarely stutter. I've got sliders out to max detail in-game, FSAA set to 2 or 4 (I can't remember) and my vid card set to "quality" instead of "performance."
What a difference a vid card makes
:O
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Asus P5N-E SLI
E6400 @ 2.66ghz
4gb DDR2 667mhz
8800 GTS 640mb
2x250gb HD's in Raid 0
SB Audigy Platnium
I run 1600x1050 with 4xAA and 4xAF, 1024 textures, and I get a constant 60FPS. If I turn Vsync off, low detail areas I'll see 200+. But the majority is 110-180FPS, depending on the fights.
But as Krusty said, that 6200 AGP card is by far the weakest link in your computer. A mid range 7xxx series card will get you 60 FPS easy, and you wouldn't have to buy a new power supply (maybe :p )
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When benchmarking AH it is very important to pick a particular terrain, a particular location, a particular view, and even a particular zoom level. The fps can vary wildly with those parameters (at least for those of us not blessed with high speed computers that max out the fps all the time). My examples:
Mmesa terrain at A1, Shift F1, details max/max, offline, 4xAA/8xAF, 1280x1024, 512 textures.
T34 in hanger, gunsight view zoomed max*: 9600XT = 42, 7600GT = 80
T34 driver view, head out the window, unzoomed: 9600XT = 29, 7600GT = 28 (more trees to render so CPU bogs down)
T34 driver view, head out, zoomed max: 9600XT = 53, 7600GT = 58 (somewhat fewer trees, CPU speeds up)
Doing the same with SHIFT F4 gives more trees and lower fps: 35/73, 23/21, 46/48.
Note that under many view conditions I am limited not by my graphics card, but by my CPU (P4 Northwood 2.8GHz w 1.5GB RAM), and it was a mistake to upgrade my graphics card (but then it was only $100).
*this used to bring AH to it's knees until HTC made a significant improvement in the rendering algorithm, that's why I include it.
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i am running 1024 and 1600x1200 getting 60 fps rock steady with sliders all the way left
i have a e6800 2 gig of supertalent ram and a ati 1900 video card
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i have 2 machines because my parents are devorced
my moms is a brand new machien with the latest navidia graphics card which is the 8800
it has 4gb of ram 3 something gigaherts hard drive
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Originally posted by splitatom
i have 2 machines because my parents are devorced
my moms is a brand new machien with the latest navidia graphics card which is the 8800
it has 4gb of ram 3 something gigaherts hard drive
That sounds about right... :rofl
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Originally posted by Fulmar
That sounds about right... :rofl
shut up
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Oh I know all about my video card.
I actually just ordered a 7900GS... and a 600W power supply to go with it.
Along with a new X52 (old X45 giving me some problems lately, and I never could really get used to the stiffness of it), a powered USB2 hub, and a wireless mouse with a dock for recharging (tired of dumping batteries into this dang thing!)
Can't wait to be able to crank up the detail!
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I ran a similar card to yours Tigger and capped it at 60 fps, It hardly ever varied. Check to see what processes you have running in the background.
In fact it was like a 5700 I think.
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Oh.. I can get 60FPS consistently.. if I run 256texts and a lower resolution.. and crank the detail down even further. I simply don't want to do that.
I also play FSX, and this 6200 definitely doesn't cut it for that!
As far as processes... well I'm no rookie to configuring XP. I have a separate user account for AH and FSX, and also use FSAutostart to get down to.. if I remember right 18 processes (maybe less).
Back when I got the 6200, it was an upgrade from the 5200, but money was tight at the time and the deal with right.. I just knew it was a "temporary" upgrade though.
Now that we're through the rough times financially (steady, decent job... wife is about to start working again... getting a serious tax return next month... plus I found a good source for a decent second income.. yes it's legal), and being that I almost NEVER buy anything for myself, I feel that I'm deserving of blowing a little cash!
So I just ordered this:
-X52 Setup.. I love the X45 but never could get used to the stiffness
-XFX 7900GS PCIe
-600W Power supply (not a cheap-o)
-Powered USB2 Hub
-Rechargeable wireless Mouse
I figured this should compliment the Saitek rudder pedals the Wife got me for Christmas quite nicely!
I've never been a big ATI fan, and although it's been years I'm still not sold. Also I don't care about DX10 or Vista, so I don't see much point on spending money on a 8000 series Nvidia, especially when really the only gaming I do is FSX and AH! I really wanted a 7950GT, but it's a huge price leap... so I have to feel good about SOMETHING I bought!
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Intel Pentium 4 Northwood core at standard clock of 3.06GHz
4x512MB Corsair ValueRAM at PC3200 (Standard DDR)
XFX nVidia 6800 (Pipelines unlocked to 6800GT)
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
200GB SATA 3.0 Gb/s Hard Drive at 7200 RPM
Saitek X52
Run full sliders with everything preloaded and hi-res textures (yes, I manually downloaded them) with an average frame rate not below 45.
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Just did some offline with my new 7900GS..
Maxed the sliders... upped to 1024 textures (hi-res textures)
1280X1024
Couldn't get into any situation where FR dropped below 40!
Now to online play!
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A radeon 3850 would have been a much better option. The GS series are all horrible price/performance.
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Can't recall who said it BUT!
Find the place in your vid card settings and turn on triple buffering!
HelpS
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I would never own another ATI card.
Maybe they are better now, but in the past I've had horrible experiences with their drivers and support. Also they never seemed to be quite 100% compatible with a lot of things... lots of graphical glitches, etc...
Of course this was a few years ago, but I still have that "taste in my mouth".
I don't understand how performance can get any better, at least for my gaming needs. 90% of the time at MAX settings (1280X1024, 1024 texts, hi-res, all sliders max) I'm pegged at my refresh rate (75fps). Of the other 10% I'm at least 60+ most of the time. The absolute LOWEST I've seen even online is 40FPS, and that was about 20 planes flying around a base on fire while zoomed in. If it wasn't for the framerate counter, I wouldn't have even noticed.
FSX, the only other high graphical demand game I play, even at MAX SETTINGS on everything, I still average 18-20FPS... From what I understand (from reading their forums and other research) this is about the best you're going to expect, unless you have a quad core processor, and two 8800GT's using SLI.
Now.. onto working on my free-track project...
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Here is a graphics card comparison (courtesy of tomshardware.com) faster card is higher.
(http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08033/picture_4164.png)
The 7900GS is the best card for $120 price range along with Radeon X1950 but with $175 you would have got a 3850 already which is leaps and bounds faster than both 7900GS or X1950.
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Asus P5N-E SLI
Intel 6750 2.67
2 Gig Ram
8600 GT 256 mb – 1 for now
300 Gig 7,200 sata2
800 W PS – overkill, but…
22” Samsung 2 ms
1280 x 1024 1024 hi res
Steady 60 fps
LeDragon "DEA"
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Yes, but as far as I'm concerned, that extra $55 would be of better use in my gas tank!
Plus in my case it was more like $75.
Besides.. using that logic.. well I guess I might as well go ahead and spend another $75 for a 700 watt, instead of 600 watt power supply... or what's another $100 on a 6600 processor, instead of the 6300? Hrmm.. what's another $150 on faster ram...
Well my point is... you have to draw the line somewhere. Yes I was willing to spend $100 on a decent video card, but i was NOT willing to spend $175. The $100 card is working out fantastically well for me, so in my mind I "saved" $75.
Sometimes I think logic like that is why so many people are filing bankruptcy due to ridiculous credit-card debt!
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Intel Pentium 4 Northwood core at standard clock of 3.06GHz
4x512MB Corsair ValueRAM at PC3200 (Standard DDR)
XFX nVidia 6800 (Pipelines unlocked to 6800GT)
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
200GB SATA 3.0 Gb/s Hard Drive at 7200 RPM
Saitek X52
Run full sliders with everything preloaded and hi-res textures (yes, I manually downloaded them) with an average frame rate not below 45.
My system is almost exactly like this. Would it be worth upgrading to a 7900GS or a 3850 AGP card or should I save it for a PCI-E/E6600 build? Isnt my CPU already close to max with the 6800 video card?
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It depends. If you plan on keeping your computer for several more years go for the AGP, but if you plan on upgrading at any time, then save up for PCI-e.
You're going to have a hard time finding a motherboard that will support your AGP card on your next upgrade, as PCI-e is the standard now for video.
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Thats what I was thinking. I will not use an AGP card when I build the next one so I'll hold off.