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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: splitatom on January 01, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
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when you land and then you acidently skid off the runway you dont land you dich i think if you land anywhere on an air field you should get landing
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No.
If you accidently skidded off the runway, you didn't land, you ditched.
RTR
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Not a bug.
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No.
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NOT A BUG
that is all
you might want to add this to the wish list forum that is all
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or....you could run a search for this "ditch off runway" and find enough reading material for a week or two.
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If you can't land on the cement, you don't deserve the little extra perks you get and the name in lights thing.
donkey
PS: If you're in a 38 and one of your missing parts is on cement and you .ef, does that count as a landing?:aok
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The biggest contradiction in the whole landing concept is that...
... when you belly land with a completely wrecked plane on the runway, you get "landed succesfully"
and
... when you land an undamaged plane and one of its wheels rolls off the tarmac, you get "ditched".
IMHO, the whole airbase area should produce "landed succesfully" results, and even better if one was required to land on undamaged wheels to get it.
Any belly landing should be a ditch.. just like any wheels down landing outside of the air base area.
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Hitech has said before it's a matter of picking a line and drawing it. He chose to do it this way to make a "successful landing" a challenge. You end flight on the cement, and it's safe. You don't, it's not.
There's no way to replicate real life, because as long as the pilot didn't DIE he was "safe" -- and in this game we die more than we land I bet. Historically anything where the pilot was alive was a good one. "Any landing you can walk away from..."
But this game isn't historical combat. This game just gives you the same tools, the gameplay is entirely unique, and not related to WW2 in most cases. So, why should it try to simulate historic rules for landing when nothing else is very historical, eh?
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I've had it happen a few times. Was RTB with oil and fuel leaks, good number of kills I wanted to land, and 5 miles from base. Ran out of fuel and tried to glide it in, but fell short of the runway and gota ditch. The other time I hada wheel missing, came in nice and slow, my plane slides off the runway just short of the large pad. Also a ditch.
I say that anything inside the airfield should be a successful landing, but anything outside the airfield (including just 2 inches from end of runway) should be a ditch.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
I say that anything inside the airfield should be a successful landing, but anything outside the airfield (including just 2 inches from end of runway) should be a ditch.
You would get the same complaints.
And if anywhere on a field is considered a landing, why even bother to try to land on runway? Just smash your plane anywhere on a field... no, thank you.
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Originally posted by Krusty
There's no way to replicate real life, because as long as the pilot didn't DIE he was "safe" -- and in this game we die more than we land I bet. Historically anything where the pilot was alive was a good one. "Any landing you can walk away from..."
Maybe that was the case in those air forces that had endless plane resources.
However, there were other air forces (or situations) that had more pilot resources than actual planes to fly with. In those cases the planes themselves were extremely valuable and were not to be wasted when possible.
In this light I would rather value the real successful landing over any precision bellylanding (=ditching) on the runway. A landing that leaves the plane flyable is the real successful landing.... and it should have nothing to do with the spot where one exits at the air base.
My 2 cents anyways ;)
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i mean like there is like an exta 20 feet on ethere side of the runway that counds as a landing
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Originally posted by splitatom
i mean like there is like an exta 20 feet on ethere side of the runway that counds as a landing
Then someone will want 50ft. Then it'll be the whole airfield. Then they'll want runways at gv bases, and then be able to land successfully on the water. It'll never end, just give it up and land on cement if its that big of a deal.
donkey
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Nope. No need to change the current setup.
Oink
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Then someone will want 50ft. Then it'll be the whole airfield. Then they'll want runways at gv bases, and then be able to land successfully on the water. It'll never end, just give it up and land on cement if its that big of a deal.
donkey
I see both sides of the argument, and agree partially with both...
One sides saying "Hey, I can't land right, so in real life, if you were anywhere near an airfield that would be a land"
the other sides saying "Hey, it gives you enough, and if you extend, it'll never stop"
What I think is that if you have a pilot wound, if your within oh say 20 feet of the runway, it should be a sucessful landing cause hey, if I had a 20mm bullet through my head, I'd want medical attention :aok
J/k, leave it the way it is, it works, if we extend it, people will just find more and more excuses to extend it more like I just did...
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Originally posted by trigger2
it should be a sucessful landing cause hey, if I had a 20mm bullet through my head, I'd want medical attention :aok
I don't think you would care if it's called a ditch or a proper landing in that case ;)
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One thing the current system allows nicely is gaming the game with intentional belly landings.
One stops and gets a "successful landing" much quicker by wrecking the plane with a belly landing when there are enemies around vulching the base.
IMHO the air base border is a clear line which would not get stretched any further. Just imagine a fence around the air base. If you make it inside and stop intact (e.g. the engine runs, or would run after refuel, and gears are on ground), you have made it. If you land outside, your plane has to be towed in before it can be used again.
Then again, if you crash the plane inside the fence, why should you be rewarded? In real life you would block the runway.
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Originally posted by Lusche
I don't think you would care if it's called a ditch or a proper landing in that case ;)
**** YES I WOULD!!
If it was a ditch, I'd reup that plane and get it in right!!
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Originally posted by trigger2
What I think is that if you have a pilot wound, if your within oh say 20 feet of the runway, it should be a sucessful landing cause hey, if I had a 20mm bullet through my head, I'd want medical attention :aok
Shoot a watermelon from about 10 ft. away with a shotgun... Look at it for a moment then hope your head looks that good after a 20mm HE round hits it. :D