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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: DoNKeY on January 03, 2008, 01:03:40 PM
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Hey guys, was wondering if any of you could send me your profiles that you think work good for AHII, and then I can kinda edit it from there. What I'm mainly looking for is the precision slider under your thumb on the throttle to control the flaps. I can set bands, but I don't know how to make it where being at the top is no flaps, and then if you slid it down a little to the "first" band a notch of flaps, and then slid it down more, second notch, but then if you slid it up one notch would go up, and then slid it up again and you would be back to no flaps.
Thanks,
donkey
PS: PM for email I guess?
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I use the hat on the throttle for flaps, Push down you have flaps pull up you raise flaps. Then on the same hat I have left brake - right brake. Works out fairly good. That slider may be better for something that uses an infinate adjustment, say prop speed.
Ever notice the problems and questions we are having with this stick?
Saitek is not doing their job.
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Donkey, I see the concept you are aiming for here, but I don't know how well it would work in practice. But, you can give it a shot, it might/should look something like this:
0-10% = no input
11-30% = Q and then release Q
31-50% = Q and then release Q
51-70% = Q and then release Q
71-90% = Q and then release Q
There are 2 problems I see here. First is hitting the correct percentage, you may actually have your slider at 35% (second notch flaps) when you think you are at the range for first notch flaps.
Then comes the problem of retracting your flaps. I realize you want "the further I pull my slider down, the more flaps come down, and when I slide the slider up, the flaps retract" but I dont think thats possible. You would have to assign a Q/releaseQ and a W/release W value to each band. Which would in the end, do nothing.
You can set your slider to work as flaps, but differently than you intend/want. Try this:
0-15% = FLAPS UP (or down, depending on your prefrence, so either keypress q or w)
16-85% = nothing
86%-100% = FLAPS UP (or down, depending on your prefrence)
I would make the 86-110% (furthest forward, toward the D-button) as flaps down and 0-15% (furthest back) as flaps up. This lets you have a large deadzone where no input is given and therefore nothing happens. The slider doesnt have a center detent so sometimes it is a little hard to figure out how far you have to move the slider to STOP controller input. With a large deadzone, you only get controller input (in this case flaps up/down) at the very extremes of the slider movement.
So, for one notch of flaps, slide the slider all the way forward, then back to center-ish, no need to be real precice, just out of the 86-100& range. For the second notch slide the slider again all the way forward then back to center-ish, rinse and repeat till you achieve the desired flap deployment.
To retract flaps, slide the slider all the way back, then to center-ish. Again you dont have to be real precice, just get the slider out of the 0-15% range. This retracts one notch of flaps. Rinse and repeat till desired flap deployment is reached.
I use the throttle hat switch for flaps up/down, (it also has gear up/down and tailhook up/down as well), which may be another idea you might want to kick around. It lets me activate flaps while trimming elevator (thumb wheel, the one with the I-button) as well as using my LOOK UP modifier. I tried having flaps mapped to my slider but found that in the times when I needed to both keep my view on the target AND use flaps, I couldnt. I have the D-button set as LOOK UP.
I'd post my profile, but I think mine is atypical, I've got stuff all over the place. For example I'm trying now to use my slider for LOOK UP and LOOK DOOWN. (Three bands - 0-15% look down, center nothing, 85-100% look up). Currently my D-button is look up and my E-button (big button on top of thottle, the letter has worn away) is squad VOX. I want to use D as VOX and E to bring up clipboard, or possibly some other function.
However, if you really want it, say so and I'll be happy to post it.
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Originally posted by Getback
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Ever notice the problems and questions we are having with this stick?
Saitek is not doing their job.
Getback, I think it may have something to do with a bunch of people getting christmas presents and having a new stick to get used to. I've only seen one or two people complain who have had them for a while.
Also, you arent hearing from the multitudes of people who arent having any problems.
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Profile HERE (http://www.pogbird.com/X45/) but I now use the programming inside AH and get everything I need with it and its one less app that has to run with AH going.
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Hmm, I've been thinking about it, and I think I'll just put flaps on the 8 way HAT switch or w/e. Any suggestions as to what to make the precision slider (I'm trying to think of stuff that will be used during combat for quick reach).
Thanks,
donkey
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Originally posted by Coshy
Getback, I think it may have something to do with a bunch of people getting christmas presents and having a new stick to get used to. I've only seen one or two people complain who have had them for a while.
Also, you arent hearing from the multitudes of people who arent having any problems.
You may have a point. Frankly, I don't think there is any real problem with the stick. However, I've noticed from several experienced players that there are some issues and more than one or two questions. The fact is I think we are all use to plug n play. That doesn't seem to be happening these days.
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Originally posted by DoNKeY
Hmm, I've been thinking about it, and I think I'll just put flaps on the 8 way HAT switch or w/e. Any suggestions as to what to make the precision slider (I'm trying to think of stuff that will be used during combat for quick reach).
Thanks,
donkey
I have flaps on the A and B buttons on the throttle - the rotors are trim and the slider does nothing
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I use the slider in analog mode for engine RPM. this is a pretty good compromise.
>Infidelz
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HUB sent me his profile lonnngggg time ago
HUB,...and I am using the thumb slider on the throttle as he was,and maybe you will as well..It is used as my [] ZOOM in and out,it workes very well for this..the black button on the stick.gutriangulartrapezoidal ONE:confused:
you know,the ONLY black one on the astick it is my zoom default..
The one for flaps,is the round button on the back-side of the throttle,and goes one notch per slip,up or down..If you want I can send the whole thing to you..Let me know.
Kevin
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I use the slidder for brakes...just don't forget to release it when you go to take off again. I also us the hat by my index finger for flaps on throttle(forward=flaps down and back= flaps up). Also use it side motion to get into autoclimb/auto pilot. Big button on top with "E" on it is used for WEP.
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In keeping with this subject, I could also use a little guidance. I used to fly Air Warrior but have been "away" (obviously) for quite a while. I read the reviews on this X52 Pro so I bought one before I've even got started in AHII yet. I dug the old Thrustmaster out but had turned to Crustmaster ;)
I could use a profile to work from for the X52 if you of y'all would be so kind . Would give me a starting place without having to start from scratch. Any help is appreciated.
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CowboyAD....look up a few replies and u can dl 2 from eagler
Gun
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I tried putting flaps on the slider, which really only worked well for the Hurris and Spits, and after looking around, moved the flaps to the wheel button on the front of the throttle. The detents in the wheel give a little more feel, so you can drop one notch or several. With, what, 5 flap settings, and half an inch of travel for the slider, your bands for each flap setting will be impractically small.
That was my experience, anyway, YMMV.
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It's still a work in progress, but here's my X52 Profile. This is the .pr0 file, which is compatible with their latest drivers and SST Software:
DOWNLOAD HERE (http://www.mediafire.com/?0xxmey2ybxm)
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The best idea I've found is to forget about profiles completely and use the AHII control mapping feature to set up your stick.
I don't think that what you are trying to do will work.
In control mode I (planes) my throttle hat controls flaps and zoom power.
In control mode 2 it controls transmission gear up gear down and zoom power
My zoom is turned on/off with the pinky trigger on the stick in either mode.
Having toe brakes that available seems like a waste of a good control. You only use those after landing.
Basically, you want everything you need to control while fighting available on your stick or throttle. Be careful and don't put 2 controls you use together or in rapid succession in such a way that you have to use the same thumb or finger to activate them. For example:
I use the black button under my thumb on stick to drop a bomb. Using the blue lighted button on the right side (other side of hat) for a secondary weapon select would be a bad idea. You have to work both w/ your thumb and unless you're pretty good at "Nintendo" you're going to be pretty busy w/ that thumb.
There are a million things you can program on your stick but I'd stick to those that you really need in the air or while operating an osty or tank.
The slider you refer to on your throttle moves my head up and down when I'm in a GV. Leaving it in the up position is good for osty driving because you can switch back & forth between driver and gunner without having to use pg up each time to see out.
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I use features of both the SST and AH to get all the things I want. If you don't use SST you lose the ability to set your POV, dials, mouse stick, etc., as buttons or zones while AH lets you fine tune other things like trim.
This is a few of the things I've set:
Set the slider in AH under analogue as "FOV". When I toggle zoom on I can continuously adjust zoom with the slide. (Remember to calibrate the slider) I set the throttle mouse button to toggle zoom on and off.
Set the throttle mouse stick as bands. Up and down on the stick are flaps up and down. Forward is WEP and back is Speed/Dive Brakes.
Also, a good trick is to set your first trigger detent to "Fire Secondary" and second detent (fully pulled) to "Fire All". That way you can just fire your cannons (or one set of cannons) or pull the trigger all the way and let him have it. Also, bombs, drops and rockets are secondary weapons so the first trigger pull releases them. I set the SST modes as: one for fighters, two for GV's and three for Bombers. For GV's make sure your first detent is fire primary (main gun is primary).