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Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 05, 2008, 05:38:48 PM: Here's a quick linky:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080105/pl_nm/usa_politics_wyoming_dc_1

It's not like this is a huge setback for any of the other candidates' in the race, but it's looking like things' might not be a total landslide, one way or the other.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: Bodhi on January 05, 2008, 06:39:58 PM: Huckabee's Iowa win had to do with his liberal stance on farm subsidies. Now that Iowa is done, Huckabee will go right back to being a foot note.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: Rolex on January 05, 2008, 06:42:50 PM: People don't vote in the Wyoming caucus, though. "Party officials" and party appointees vote. It's kind of like the election process in North Korea. :D
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: john9001 on January 05, 2008, 06:50:57 PM: so farm subsidies are liberal but manufacturing subsidies are conservative?
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: zilla on January 05, 2008, 07:47:12 PM: Depends on what they are manufacturing.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: Bodhi on January 05, 2008, 07:49:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by john9001
so farm subsidies are liberal but manufacturing subsidies are conservative?

Stop being an prettythanghat john.

I support no type of long term subsidy. Temporary help is fine, but the continued suckling given out each year to those receiving them is wrong.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: crockett on January 05, 2008, 08:20:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Bodhi
Huckabee's Iowa win had to do with his liberal stance on farm subsidies. Now that Iowa is done, Huckabee will go right back to being a foot note.

I dunno about his farm deal, but I think it had a lot top do with him being the Religious Right poster boy. I'm sure once he's outside the bible belt his support will quickly plummet.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: bj229r on January 05, 2008, 09:07:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by crockett
I dunno about his farm deal, but I think it had a lot top do with him being the Religious Right poster boy. I'm sure once he's outside the bible belt his support will quickly plummet.
Yup--he is a liberal, but shields it with his religion. The man holds no conservative principles at all...hmmm, mebbe he WILL do well in NE
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: Halo on January 05, 2008, 09:13:15 PM: Wyoming? What's it got -- one or two votes somewhere?

Do we even have any Aces High members from Wyoming?
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: rpm on January 05, 2008, 11:07:16 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Bodhi
Stop being an prettythanghat john.

I support no type of long term subsidy. Temporary help is fine, but the continued suckling given out each year to those receiving them is wrong.
So tax breaks for big corporations are not a form of subsidy?
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: E25280 on January 06, 2008, 01:55:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by rpm
So tax breaks for big corporations are not a form of subsidy?
Off hand I would say there is a big difference between letting an entity keep the money it earned by selling a product or service vs. paying a farmer to not grow anything.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: rpm on January 06, 2008, 03:09:49 AM: I'd say taxing one entity less than another is a form of subsidy. Playing favorites.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: bj229r on January 06, 2008, 10:23:03 AM: Quote
Originally posted by rpm
So tax breaks for big corporations are not a form of subsidy?
We have the highest corporate tax rate in the western world---35%...would be nice if Congress realized that corporations don't actually PAY those taxes, you and I do, at the cash register. When they give them a tax BREAK, it's just to motivate them to do something Congress wants done---do R&D on alternative fuels, open plants in certain areas (like big-wigs home districts...)
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: lazs2 on January 06, 2008, 11:19:30 AM: There is no such thing as a tax that affects only the "rich" or the "corporations" or..

It is all the same. every single tax affects all of us. every tax break is good for all of us. The less taxes anyone pays the better it is for the rest of us.

lazs
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: Bodhi on January 06, 2008, 12:06:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by rpm
So tax breaks for big corporations are not a form of subsidy?

See the first line of my reply to john and replace jon with rpm

Then add:

tax breaks have the tendency to keep corporations in certain areas. While I do not always agree with it, I can see the value in keeping corporations in certain areas to prevent mass unemployment if they leave.

One more thing, subsidies have a tendency to go to individual families that benefit only that family that receives thesubsidy. Tax breaks benefit a corporation AND a community / area.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: lazs2 on January 07, 2008, 08:56:23 AM: give someone.. anyone a tax break and they thrive.

If your agenda is to make everyone miserable except those who can't or won't do for themselves then it is a good idea to raise taxes.

I think a romney thompson ticket would be unbeatable.

lazs
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: rpm on January 07, 2008, 02:44:47 PM: Bodhi, if you think most subsidies go to family farmers you don't know squat about farming.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: myelo on January 07, 2008, 02:54:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Halo
Wyoming? What's it got -- one or two votes somewhere?

Hey, don't dismiss Wyoming.

You know what they say -- as goes Wyoming, so goes South Dakota.
Title: Romney wins Wyoming
Post by: Hap on January 07, 2008, 04:05:03 PM: Y'all are making me laugh.