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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: crockett on January 05, 2008, 08:06:05 PM
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I'm sure glad those billions of dollars we are spending over there aren't going to waste.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O42_WRWO51k
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Did Iraqi mil recruited those goofs from mental institution?
That's hilarious.
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Originally posted by crockett
I'm sure glad those billions of dollars we are spending over there aren't going to waste.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O42_WRWO51k
Are you that ignorant, to take a youtube video as truthful reporting? If so you're a bigger twit than the guys in the video.:lol
I wish they'd send you over there to straighten everything out.
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those are just average arabs.
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Originally posted by Yeager
those are just average arabs.
Or Al Queda prisoners getting thier morning workout.
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I have seen that played as training recruits in Afganistan as well... Must be from the same place that Dan Rather got his facts too.... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Shifty
Are you that ignorant, to take a youtube video as truthful reporting? If so you're a bigger twit than the guys in the video.:lol
I wish they'd send you over there to straighten everything out.
:noid
ever hear of Humor?
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Yes, we've heard of it.
We know you don't have any.
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Originally posted by Blooz
Yes, we've heard of it.
We know you don't have any.
Now that's funny! :lol
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Originally posted by Blooz
Yes, we've heard of it.
We know you don't have any.
Maybe you just don't know what humor is.. If you can't find it in what I posted, well it's clear you have none. Then again that's a comon problem with some of the members on this forum.
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Originally posted by crockett
Maybe you just don't know what humor is.. If you can't find it in what I posted, well it's clear you have none. Then again that's a comon problem with some of the members on this forum.
Perhaps some people have a problem distinguishing between between self righteous smuggery and humor. You might want to work on that.
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Originally posted by crockett
:noid
ever hear of Humor?
Yes, and if there is one thing that one could point to that makes the Right different from the left it is this:
The Right considers rumors and analyses the source before making a determination to the validity of the rumor, while the Left takes it as fact and runs with it as the truth.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Yes, and if there is one thing that one could point to that makes the Right different from the left it is this:
The Right considers rumors and analyses the source before making a determination to the validity of the rumor, while the Left takes it as fact and runs with it as the truth.
Right... I guess you right wingers really did your homework by doing so much analyses and the consideration of rumors before you pushed so hard to invade Iraq.
LoL now that is a joke.. :rofl
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:rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by crockett
Right... I guess you right wingers really did your homework by doing so much analyses and the consideration of rumors before you pushed so hard to invade Iraq.
LoL now that is a joke.. :rofl
I'll speak for Shifty on this one. You are a pile of caca del toro. Your "consideration" has long vanquished.
PS - Shifty, don't bother replying to him.
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now if crockett had titled the clip "Iraq army, first day of boot camp" it would have been worthless as a antiwar/antibush propaganda.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I'll speak for Shifty on this one. You are a pile of caca del toro. Your "consideration" has long vanquished.
PS - Shifty, don't bother replying to him.
The truth hurts don't it, I posted a funny video for a few laughs. Of couse you can't ever do that on this forum with out someone trying to turn the topic into yet another useless bash fest. So hey I guess I can play that game too.
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Originally posted by john9001
now if crockett had titled the clip "Iraq army, first day of boot camp" it would have been worthless as a antiwar/antibush propaganda.
Actually, I just stole the exact same title the guy used on the forum I saw it first posted on. Maybe you should quit seeing what you want in everything and just enjoy it for once.
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SOrry crocket-full-of-it. In reality, you had a political agenda to begin with when starting this thread. The humor you now claim that you had intended which is now claimed by you, is because you've been made to look like a fool, which probably isn't difficult to do.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
SOrry crocket-full-of-it. In reality, you had a political agenda to begin with when starting this thread. The humor you now claim that you had intended which is now claimed by you, is because you've been made to look like a fool, which probably isn't difficult to do.
I guess you didn't like my reply to your first post, because now you have to dig out the name calling. Is that all yea have? :lol :lol
p.s..
that first post was pretty funny though, almost as funny as the video..
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Brahahahaha
I wonder how the Americans in that video kept from laughing out loud at the attempts of those guys to do jumping jacks.
Crockett, these jabs from other forum posters will only get more intense as the writing on the wall becomes more visible to them. Sit back and enjoy the show, it's gonna be great!
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*It's time for lawn chair, popcorn and beer*
Bush'ites talking about analyzing rumors before acting LOLZ! This is going to be a good one! :lol
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Don't forget, the Iraqi army doesn't have to be as good as the U.S. Army. They just have to be better than the insurgents.
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Originally posted by crockett
The truth hurts don't it, I posted a funny video for a few laughs. Of couse you can't ever do that on this forum with out someone trying to turn the topic into yet another useless bash fest. So hey I guess I can play that game too.
1.) You aren't funny.
2.) You should find a few of Shifty's posts and you'd understand.
but
3.) You aren't too bright.
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Personal attacks ... the last resort of the losers.
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Originally posted by Viking
Personal attacks ... the last resort of the losers.
I never won or lost. Just put a dolt in his place after making fun of a war that cost the limb of a fellow AH'ers son.
Now you just crawl into your little hole PNGboi. Oh, I mean GSholz, who was PNG'd.
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More personal attacks. Its all you can offer.
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Reminds me of the first day of gym class in the 6th grade:)
shamus
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Originally posted by Shamus
Reminds me of the first day of gym class in the 6th grade:)
shamus
LOL yeah the kid who banged his head to many times hehehe
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I never won or lost. Just put a dolt in his place after making fun of a war that cost the limb of a fellow AH'ers son.
That's a stretch even for you Masherbrum. He made fun of the Iraqi army not Shifty's son. BIG difference.
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Originally posted by Viking
That's a stretch even for you Masherbrum. He made fun of the Iraqi army not Shifty's son. BIG difference.
No, he grandstanded BEYOND the "iraqi army".
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He can make fun of the war, the US armed forces, Bush etc... still doesn't mean he's making fun of Shifty's son. You have to get a perspective on these things Masherbrum.
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oh, now i see, it's all about "perspective".
( thats a pun)
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Mash, no worries. I don't take Crockett's remarks as anything to do with Thomas. If it's something that makes America look bad Crockett seems to revel in it. That's why Viking comes to his defense. One America hater taking up for another. Viking I can understand, he just hates America, he doesn't have the self control to do anything else. Crockett I'll never understand his glee in trying and blacken the American eye every chance he gets.
The point being missed here though is. There are a lot of brave Iraqi soldiers and policemen who have been killed in this war. Even if they were Iraqi Army recruits, and even if they do look absurd. At least they're doing something, they're taking a stand. That takes a lot more character and guts, than belittling their efforts and then trying to pass it off as humor.
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Shifty, you're full of it. I don't hate America ... only the people trying to destroy everything America used to stand for. And even then hate is perhaps too strong a word.
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Originally posted by Viking
Personal attacks ... the last resort of the losers.
Pot....kettle?
Originally posted by Viking
Shifty, you're full of it. I don't hate America ... only the people trying to destroy everything America used to stand for. And even then hate is perhaps too strong a word.
Then I admire your capacity for deception. Perhaps its just your zeal that gives a more disappointing perception?
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Pot....kettle?
I avoid using ad hominem attacks in discussions. If you think otherwise feel free to quote me.
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Then I admire your capacity for deception. Perhaps its just your zeal that gives a more disappointing perception?
I think it is more a matter of self-deception on your part. Care to quote me expressing hate for America? Shouldn't be difficult if what you think of me is true.
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Originally posted by Viking
Shifty, you're full of it. I don't hate America ... only the people trying to destroy everything America used to stand for.
You sir are the one that's full of it.
You do hate America, it eats you up. You can see it in every post you make that has anything to do with America. You just don't have the guts to admit it.
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Then you should have no problem quoting me. The forum's search function is at your disposal. The hate you see in my posts are figments of your imagination ... That, or you're just lying. I can't tell.
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Originally posted by Viking
Then you should have no problem quoting me. The forum's search function is at your disposal. The hate you see in my posts are figments of your imagination ... That, or you're just lying. I can't tell.
How do YOU AMERICANS feel about this? (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221935&highlight=America)
I love this quote of yours about Americas involvement in WWII.
"Yeah Dago that's right. You didn't valiantly join the fray to fight tyranny and oppression. You waited ... and waited ... and waited ... while you sold often outdated weapons to the allies at inflated prices. And if not for the Royal Navy you would have sold arms and goods to the Germans too. Only after Japan attacked you and Germany declared war on you did you join the fight. How valiant ... how heroic. What a selfless sacrifice indeed."[b/]
It can be found on page four of
this thread. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?)
I love this one..... Just how many Americans do you think wanted this war? I don't know of any in my circle of friends and family.
"I'm more of a "innocent until proven guilty" standard guy. The so called "proof" your government presented in the UN SC was laughable and no one believed you. France didn't even have to veto. You wanted this war, and you got it. Reap it." The above quote can be found in this
this thread. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?)
Nothing like a You people quote to show your fondess of us.
"You sir have a serious misconception of what a war is, but then you Americans use the word “war” for a lot of non-war situations so... In any case, a government is not responsible for the actions of civilians. Nor is it the Mexican government's fault that for some reason the USA seems to be incapable of policing its borders.
Thread here. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202323&highlight=America)
More America love concerning WWII from you..
"I have little doubt that had not Germany declared war on America after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, America would not have sent a single GI to help the British.
America joined the war to save her own ass.
Thread here. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199488&highlight=America)
Another gem showing your affection for us.
"I've always wondered about that. Why go on a rampage in a school killing unarmed children when you can have much more fun in a police station? How can killing defenseless kids be any challenge? And if you're going to kill yourself anyway why not pick victims that shoot back? Would make your final minutes a lot more exiting.
Anyways ... back to the issue of America losing to terrorism.
Thread here. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198790&highlight=America)
You know I'm begining to think maybe I was wrong.. You must love us we're all you seem to talk about.
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All of those quotes are true and I stand by them. They do not express hatred towards America in any way. I know you people are a bit touchy and easily get offended, but some here almost go out of their way to be offended. Like you do.
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Originally posted by Viking
. I know you people are a bit touchy and easily get offended,
oh brother.
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Originally posted by Viking
Personal attacks ... the last resort of the losers.
It's all they have.. every topic in here turns into the same..
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I never won or lost. Just put a dolt in his place after making fun of a war that cost the limb of a fellow AH'ers son.
Now you just crawl into your little hole PNGboi. Oh, I mean GSholz, who was PNG'd.
Give me a "F"en break.. Is that why you are giving me crap? Why don't you put the blame where is lays at the door step of the man whom took us to war with cherry picked evidence.
You wanna talk about a moron, just look in the mirror man.
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Originally posted by Shifty
Mash, no worries. I don't take Crockett's remarks as anything to do with Thomas. If it's something that makes America look bad Crockett seems to revel in it. That's why Viking comes to his defense. One America hater taking up for another. Viking I can understand, he just hates America, he doesn't have the self control to do anything else. Crockett I'll never understand his glee in trying and blacken the American eye every chance he gets.
The point being missed here though is. There are a lot of brave Iraqi soldiers and policemen who have been killed in this war. Even if they were Iraqi Army recruits, and even if they do look absurd. At least they're doing something, they're taking a stand. That takes a lot more character and guts, than belittling their efforts and then trying to pass it off as humor.
I'm sorry for your son, but he has nothing to do with this topic and it's a very cheap shot for mushbrain to try and use him in this topic as a atempt to push his personal views. I am also not going to sit here and have you try to tell me what support I have for my country or not.
You can call me an bellybutton or what ever you want, but if you have ever read any of my posts you should be able to tell that I have 100% support our troops, however I despise our leadership. That I'm sorry to tell you is not un-American.
If you want to somehow misconstrue that as being un American.. well then you have no clue what this country really stands for and that's a shame.
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Originally posted by crockett
I'm sorry for your son, but he has nothing to do with this topic and it's a very cheap shot for mushbrain to try and use him in this topic as a atempt to push his personal views. I am also not going to sit here and have you try to tell me what support I have for my country or not.
You can call me an bellybutton or what ever you want, but if you have ever read any of my posts you should be able to tell that I have 100% support our troops, however I despise our leadership. That I'm sorry to tell you is not un-American.
If you want to somehow misconstrue that as being un American.. well then you have no clue what this country really stands for and that's a shame.
I didn't call you anything, much less an ass. My sons injuires have nothing to do with the conversation I agree. I didn't put my son in this conversation, somebody else did. Personally I don't care who or what you dispise, or what you consider a shame. I find your 100% support of our troops about as valid as the video you posted. If you really supported the troops, you'd be demanding success, not gleefully trying to point out each and every perceived failure you think you've found. The troops will do just fine without the support of people like you. In fact they already have.
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Originally posted by Shifty
I didn't call you anything, much less an ass. My sons injuires have nothing to do with the conversation I agree. I didn't put my son in this conversation, somebody else did. Personally I don't care who or what you dispise, or what you consider a shame. I find your 100% support of our troops about as valid as the video you posted. If you really supported the troops, you'd be demanding success, not gleefully trying to point out each and every perceived failure you think you've found. The troops will do just fine without the support of people like you. In fact they already have.
Well put Shifty.
Crockett, At some point you may well understand his point. People jumped on you here for that reason.
Viking, obviously you enjoy provoking people as you stir things up on a broad dimension. Hey, it gets you off.. So be it... But don't disguise it. Its all fine, just like Beetle and many others on all sides of the coin, it keeps it fun.
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Originally posted by Viking
All of those quotes are true and I stand by them. They do not express hatred towards America in any way. I know you people are a bit touchy and easily get offended, but some here almost go out of their way to be offended. Like you do.
How am I not suprised you stand by your quotes and claim they display no hatred? You have yet to offend me. I'm just making observations. You're nothing more than ignorance and noise Viking. Anybody you do manage to offend won't let it bother them for long.
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Originally posted by Shifty
Mash, no worries. I don't take Crockett's remarks as anything to do with Thomas. If it's something that makes America look bad Crockett seems to revel in it. That's why Viking comes to his defense. One America hater taking up for another. Viking I can understand, he just hates America, he doesn't have the self control to do anything else. Crockett I'll never understand his glee in trying and blacken the American eye every chance he gets.
The point being missed here though is. There are a lot of brave Iraqi soldiers and policemen who have been killed in this war. Even if they were Iraqi Army recruits, and even if they do look absurd. At least they're doing something, they're taking a stand. That takes a lot more character and guts, than belittling their efforts and then trying to pass it off as humor.
Well put.
Yes, I did use Thomas to drive home a point that "it is classless to throw the Iraqi war back in your face". Crock-it and GSholz fail to see this. But then again, GSholz (Viking) already has a PNG under his belt.
Here, page 1, 1/2 way down
Originally posted by crockett
Right... I guess you right wingers really did your homework by doing so much analyses and the consideration of rumors before you pushed so hard to invade Iraq.
LoL now that is a joke.. :rofl
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Originally posted by Shifty
I didn't call you anything, much less an ass. My sons injuires have nothing to do with the conversation I agree. I didn't put my son in this conversation, somebody else did. Personally I don't care who or what you dispise, or what you consider a shame. I find your 100% support of our troops about as valid as the video you posted. If you really supported the troops, you'd be demanding success, not gleefully trying to point out each and every perceived failure you think you've found. The troops will do just fine without the support of people like you. In fact they already have.
First off you did called me un- American in that post. You said "One America hater taking up for another."
You know what? I'd love to see success in Iraq regardless of the reasons we are there. You can believe me or not it don't make much difference to me.
You try to say I don't support our troops because I don't agree with the reasons we are there or what ever you have in your head.
Yet I've time and time posted topic on this board trying to bring awareness to how our troops are being taken advantage of. I've posted about contractors giving our soldiers drinking water with blood pathogens in it. I've posted about the billions of dollars that are being given to contractors yet our soldiers go with out.
Yes I've complained about putting US service men and women in harms way for a bunch of lies. I've posted complaints about Bush and co turning the VA hospitals in to some of the worst hospitals in this country, because of private contractors greed.
Sorry that you find that un American and not supportive to the troops but I feel it's very American and very supportive. The difference is I don't blindly support a govt whom's action do not match it's words. I care about what happens to the men and women whom serve this country, not what some politician thinks is good for business.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Crockett, At some point you may well understand his point. People jumped on you here for that reason.
No they didn't, don't even give them the satisfaction of thinking they are somehow self righteous. The guys that attacked me in this topic are the same trolls that attack anyone whom they don't agree with. It's the same story time and time again in just about any topic in the O club.
Don't even think for a min it's any self righteous reason other than their own self gratification.
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Originally posted by Shifty
How am I not suprised you stand by your quotes and claim they display no hatred? You have yet to offend me.
Good. How can you then say I hate America? I can say that you hate Switzerland ... doesn't make it true though.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Yes, I did use Thomas to drive home a point that "it is classless to throw the Iraqi war back in your face". Crock-it and GSholz fail to see this. But then again, GSholz (Viking) already has a PNG under his belt.
Here, page 1, 1/2 way down
Yes you did use the maimed son of a fellow forum member to make a cheap shot at Crockett. Somehow trying to make it look like Crockett was making fun of him. Yes you really are that low.
And what does the banning of GScholz have to do with all this?
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Originally posted by Viking
Yes you did use the maimed son of a fellow forum member to make a cheap shot at Crockett. Somehow trying to make it look like Crockett was making fun of him. Yes you really are that low.
And what does the banning of GScholz have to do with all this?
You should be BANNED again.
Cheap shot? You got PNG'd for em. Seems you're looking in Crock-it's mirror.
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Why should I be banned? For what?
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Originally posted by Viking
Why should I be banned? For what?
Give it up GSholz. You lose, again.
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Don't weasel out again. Answer the question: Why should I be banned?
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Originally posted by Viking
Don't weasel out again. Answer the question: Why should I be banned?
You are GSholz, therefore the reason he was banned would fit. IP ban is a pain isn't it?;)
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You two need to take Skuzzy's advice:
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Whether he is or is not, is irrelevant. Each handle on the BB will stand on its own merit, unless it is quite obvious the owner is trying to circumvent a ban from the board.
Let's stop the witch hunt folks. Leave that to us. :)
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Originally posted by Viking
You two need to take Skuzzy's advice:
Sweet use of Rule #6.
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I was not moderating or quoting rules (however you are ya dolt!). I was just quoting Skuzzy.
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Originally posted by Viking
I can say that you hate Switzerland ... doesn't make it true though.
Don't be so sure.:p
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Originally posted by Viking
More personal attacks. Its all you can offer.
Yes yes, "Condescending ass" is not a personal attack, eh? :rofl :rofl Damn, hypocrisy runs deep with you...
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Originally posted by Viking
I was not moderating or quoting rules (however you are ya dolt!). I was just quoting Skuzzy.
Sweet use of a personal attack.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Yes yes, "Condescending ass" is not a personal attack, eh? :rofl :rofl Damn, hypocrisy runs deep with you...
I never said "Condescending ass". And even if I had it wouldn't have been a personal attack in that context.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sweet use of a personal attack.
Not a personal attack.
You people need to learn what a personal attack is:
"A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims."
You can be rude or even insult your opponent without it being a personal attack as long as you don't use it to deflect or divert the issue.
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Originally posted by Viking
Not a personal attack.
You people need to learn what a personal attack is:
"A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims."
You can be rude or even insult your opponent without it being a personal attack as long as you don't use it to deflect or divert the issue.
I haven't been PNG'd, the day I take "tips" from someone who HAS, I'll kill myself.
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That's a good example of a personal attack. Instead of attacking my argument or claim you attack my person (again) in a vain effort to divert the issue. As for killing yourself ... please do.
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Originally posted by Viking
As for killing yourself ... please do.
And there it is.
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Originally posted by Bronk
And there it is.
He has no self-control. Kinda sad if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Bronk
And there it is.
And there is what?
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Originally posted by Viking
And there is what?
Originally posted by Viking
Why should I be banned?
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Originally posted by Skuzzy:
Whether he is or is not, is irrelevant. Each handle on the BB will stand on its own merit, unless it is quite obvious the owner is trying to circumvent a ban from the board.
Let's stop the witch hunt folks. Leave that to us.
So Viking did you circumvent your banning?
Didn't you post recently on how to get around an IP lockout?
Didn't you get PNGs for your other handles between GSholz and Viking?
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
So Viking did you circumvent your banning?
No. Viking has never been banned, and neither is my IP banned.
Originally posted by MiloMorai
Didn't you post recently on how to get around an IP lockout?
No I have never done that.
Originally posted by MiloMorai
Didn't you get PNGs for your other handles between GSholz and Viking?
What handles?
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(http://24.19.176.196/skuzzysignal.gif)
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Originally posted by Bronk
Blah blah ...
I hardly think so.
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Originally posted by Shifty
How do YOU AMERICANS feel about this? (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=221935&highlight=America)
I love this quote of yours about Americas involvement in WWII.
"Yeah Dago that's right. You didn't valiantly join the fray to fight tyranny and oppression. You waited ... and waited ... and waited ... while you sold often outdated weapons to the allies at inflated prices. And if not for the Royal Navy you would have sold arms and goods to the Germans too. Only after Japan attacked you and Germany declared war on you did you join the fight. How valiant ... how heroic. What a selfless sacrifice indeed."[b/]
It can be found on page four of
this thread. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?)
I love this one..... Just how many Americans do you think wanted this war? I don't know of any in my circle of friends and family.
"I'm more of a "innocent until proven guilty" standard guy. The so called "proof" your government presented in the UN SC was laughable and no one believed you. France didn't even have to veto. You wanted this war, and you got it. Reap it." The above quote can be found in this
this thread. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?)
Nothing like a You people quote to show your fondess of us.
"You sir have a serious misconception of what a war is, but then you Americans use the word “war” for a lot of non-war situations so... In any case, a government is not responsible for the actions of civilians. Nor is it the Mexican government's fault that for some reason the USA seems to be incapable of policing its borders.
Thread here. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202323&highlight=America)
More America love concerning WWII from you..
"I have little doubt that had not Germany declared war on America after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, America would not have sent a single GI to help the British.
America joined the war to save her own ass.
Thread here. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199488&highlight=America)
Another gem showing your affection for us.
"I've always wondered about that. Why go on a rampage in a school killing unarmed children when you can have much more fun in a police station? How can killing defenseless kids be any challenge? And if you're going to kill yourself anyway why not pick victims that shoot back? Would make your final minutes a lot more exiting.
Anyways ... back to the issue of America losing to terrorism.
Thread here. (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=198790&highlight=America)
You know I'm begining to think maybe I was wrong.. You must love us we're all you seem to talk about.
What's wrong with those quotes ?
Certainly those are quite un PC but what else ?
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
So Viking did you circumvent your banning?
Didn't you post recently on how to get around an IP lockout?
Didn't you get PNGs for your other handles between GSholz and Viking? [/B]
Originally posted by Viking
Creating a new account is complicated when your IP has been banned. Thrust me.
Sounds like an admission to me.
Viking I may say some foolish things from time to time. I don't recall saying anything quite as hateful. You must have anger/impulse issues seek help before you really do something stupid.
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Originally posted by Viking
No. Viking has never been banned, and neither is my IP banned.
So you deny being gscholz and that he was IP banned?
No I have never done that.
But you do know how dificult it is to get around, right?
What handles?
While madman (spelled backwards and upside down) left gscholz certainly was.
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I forsee heavy editing inbound in hour or 2
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Originally posted by Bronk
Sounds like an admission to me.
LOL you must be a cop. :lol
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Originally posted by Bronk
While madman (spelled backwards and upside down) left gscholz certainly was.
Yes GScholz was banned. I think we established that quite some time ago.
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<------ Waits to see how many of the right wingers in this topic jump in and act like a hypocrite over in this topic.
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223468
edit I forgot about the forum header..
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Crockett, you need to right click on the link to the thread you want to copy. If you wanted to copy a link to this thread you would have to go back to the O'Club index and right click on the link to this thread and copy it.
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Originally posted by crockett
<------ Waits to see how many of the right wingers in this topic jump in and act like a hypocrite over in this topic.
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223468
edit I forgot about the forum header..
I'm not a right-winger or a left winger. Both parties suck worse than the other.
Sweet troll though!
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Originally posted by crockett
I'm sure glad those billions of dollars we are spending over there aren't going to waste.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O42_WRWO51k
Would that not be easyer to keep existing army instead of dismembering it and building the new one?
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So your argument in this thread, and the purpose of it is to glaringly display the waste of the War in Iraq through the posting of a video that shows what is obviously the start of training for 11[/i] Men.
Who apparantly can't coordinate their bodies for follow cadence to do jumping jacks.
Wow. My god, this video shows that everything I believe and am going to fight for in my life is a complete and utter waste, we should leave now and let the terrorists kill us all for this. /sarcasm.
The Nation of Iraq, at least the vast majority of it, does not have public education. There are no elementary schools, middle schools, high schools, very few universities and none of them hold a candle to a school in America.
These people are farmers, the vast vast majority of them are farmers, who live their entire lives on a single farm. Generations on a farm, in a single farmhouse.
They grew up not knowing what a jumping jack was, they grew up not needing to know. Their lives revolved around the harvest.
That and for the past 30 years their lives revolved around what 1 single man thought was right in his mad quest for power and domination over the surrounding nations.
Not only that but he purposefully kept his people suppressed, butchered many of them, and oppressed them with a small segment of the population. Creating an elitist regime that held millions in squalor for 30 years.
That's kinda tough to break in 4 years.
The average U.S. Army Private has had 12 years of Education, likely has seen a great deal of movies about the military, has spent several weeks in basic training, several more weeks in advanced training, even more weeks with his unit receiving even more specialized training.
Typically a Private in a basic Infantry Platoon has been in training for a year or more before he is deployed. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.
According to doctrine, its 4 years before an enlisted man is even allowed to lead others, 4 years of training, working, and learning under their squad leaders before they become Corporals and lead fireteams. (This is of course subject to the ever present and over-riding rule of: Situation Dictates.)
And you expect 11 men, likely farmers who have never had regimented excercize in their lives, to compare to the above? Within what is obviously the first few days of training?
Hell's teeth man look at our OWN history.
It took a Prussian Captain several weeks at Valley Forge to teach the Continental Army basic marching skills!
A good deal of American militia were frontiersmen, who knew how to shoot, knew how to stand and fight, and for the beginning of the Revolutionary War we got our tulips royally handed to us by those tea-drinking fairies! ;)
Hell in JROTC it took us days of practice, weeks even to get entire formations just to move in step, and that's just as simple as jumping jacks.
America wasn't won in 4 years, try more like 30 and we still didn't have it quite right. And you expect the Iraqis to do the same in 4? With far more advanced methods of destabalizing an area available to the terrorists?
With people who don't really care if they live or die, so long as they get to kill Americans?
Yeah... that's gonna realistically happen in 4 years.
It takes alot of time to get even an American up to a level that a Squad leader can use him, alot of time and alot of money. And the Iraqis are starting at a big disadvantage in comparison but you should not dare to mock them. They are fighting for their independance and their right to control their lives, to live the way they want to live. How dare you mock that with this thread.
I'd proudly lead of platoon of Iraqis into battle any day of the week.
To KgB:
No it is not necessarily easier to keep and retrain an existing Army.
The Iraqi's military infrastructure was shattered twice over by the U.S. Military in Gulf War 1 and 2. It is far easier to remove the stigma of those defeats be building an entirely new Army.
Also, but keeping the same Army structure you inherit any problems that that structure faced, by starting from scratch you instill the desired discipline at all levels equally and from the start.
It takes time but starting over from the beginning is the smarter move in this case.
Especially since the Original Iraqi Army was based on Russian Doctrine, and now they will be supplied and oriented on American Doctrine, the change-over in an existing army would create some hefty sized headaches.
Better to just build a newer better more capable army and train it to American standards.
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Damn fine post Hoffman:aok
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Well said Hoffman.
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Hoffman, don't take everything so freaking serious. You going to tell me you can watch that video and not laugh your bellybutton off? If you can't laugh at that video you seriously have no sense of humor.
Reality Check.. the world will not end, if you laugh at a funny video.
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it was not the video, it was the context it was put in.
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Originally posted by john9001
it was not the video, it was the context it was put in.
Bingo:aok
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Iraq used to have schools, power plants, water treatment plants, telecommunications etc... They used to have those things.
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Originally posted by Viking
Iraq used to have schools, power plants, water treatment plants, telecommunications etc... They used to have those things.
was that before saddam took over the country?
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Nope. That was before they were considered support and government infrastructure and destroyed by coalition forces in 1991.
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Originally posted by john9001
it was not the video, it was the context it was put in.
Really?
So then why arent you and Bronk and the rest of the gang whom seems to agree with you not over bashing in this topic?
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223468
He did the exact thing I did except he's making fun of Al Gore. Only reason you are here is because you and your other buddies do nothing but attack people that you disagree with. You are like a broken record.