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Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: LePaul on January 07, 2008, 03:01:54 PM
Guess she can't hack the competition

So much for "experience on day one".  Waaaaaah

Video  http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4097366
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Mickey1992 on January 07, 2008, 03:18:52 PM
I have really come to the conclusion that she wants to be president just to be president.  There really is no underlying desire to serve her country.  New York was just a stepping stone.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Yeager on January 07, 2008, 03:24:48 PM
and to get bested by such a a dork as hussein obama :rolleyes:
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tango on January 07, 2008, 03:35:34 PM
Question is, was that question from a New Hampshire voter?

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/hillary_busing/2008/01/07/62291.html?s=al&promo_code=4276-1
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: SIG220 on January 07, 2008, 04:01:36 PM
She looked extremely un-presidential in the way she went after Obama in the debate Saturday.   I think her performances in these debates is really hurting her badly.   People are seeing the real Hillary come out.

Before Iowa, she had at least a 2 percent lead in the polls in New Hampshire.   Now, depending on the poll you look at, she is trailing by 7 to 11 percent.

The poll that CBS News did was the most telling, as they checked back with the same voters they polled earlier.   And they found that many had defected from Hillary, to support Obama.

Does Hillary actually think that she can rebound in either Michigan or South Carolina, with their large numbers of black democrats??

About the only early primary she has a chance in is Nevada.

It will be interesting to see how the vote goes in Florida, as the National Democratic Party is punishing the Democrats in Florida, and will not be accepting their delegates to the Democratic Convention.   And no Democratic candidates have thus been campaigning at all in Florida, because of that.

SIG 220
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Shuffler on January 07, 2008, 04:03:11 PM
lol @ experience... too funny...

With her idea of experience the Pastry Chef in the White House can claim having 8 years experience since he has been in the White House that long.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: cav58d on January 07, 2008, 04:09:41 PM
Obama McCain it is for the general election =)
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tarmac on January 07, 2008, 04:16:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SIG220
Does Hillary actually think that she can rebound in either Michigan or South Carolina, with their large numbers of black democrats??


Michigan is all fubared this year, so she will "win" for what that's worth.  Michigan violated the Dem party rules by moving their primary up, and as a result most of the candidates withdrew their names from the MI ballot... but for some administrative reason Hillary could not.  So she's pretty much running against Kucinich in MI.  Obama and Edwards are not on the MI primary ballot.  

However, Michigan was also stripped of its delegates, so even if she "wins" she will get no votes from us.  She could still get a big slap in the face, however, if she ends up losing to "uncommitted."
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Meatwad on January 07, 2008, 04:19:27 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o109/AHmeatwad/bawwww.jpg)


BAWWWWW poor hiwwawy didnt make it
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Speed55 on January 07, 2008, 04:20:54 PM
That was awesome!!!! sniffle sniffle,    That's definitely the figurehead we need as our president.  I can see it now, her losing an argument, bolting off the stage, running to her room and slamming the door? :cry
I wont come out untiw da big bad man goes away....
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: SIG220 on January 07, 2008, 04:23:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tarmac
Michigan is all fubared this year, so she will "win" for what that's worth.  Michigan violated the Dem party rules by moving their primary up, and as a result most of the candidates withdrew their names from the MI ballot... but for some administrative reason Hillary could not.  So she's pretty much running against Kucinich in MI.  Obama and Edwards are not on the MI primary ballot.  

However, Michigan was also stripped of its delegates, so even if she "wins" she will get no votes from us.  She could still get a big slap in the face, however, if she ends up losing to "uncommitted."


Wow, I did not know about this being done in Michigan too.   How is it that the Democratic National Party is getting away with doing this to so many voters??  I would really be pissed if I was a Democrat living in one of these states.

You know, both Michigan and Florida would probably have gone to Obama.   Could this be an underhanded effort to help Hillary??

SIG 220
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Meatwad on January 07, 2008, 04:30:27 PM
We now go live to hillary


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Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tarmac on January 07, 2008, 04:32:10 PM
I don't know how they do it... something about "party rules."  The joys of a two party system... they can set their own rules, and we just have to suck it up.

Michigan was a pretty tight toss up, especially among blacks who revere the Clinton name but also would like a black dude.  So I don't think it was any sort of conspiracy, as it was already too close to call either way.  Plus, they took away our delegates, so we essentially count for nothing.  

Republicans did something similar, but only took away half of our delegates, so at least a republican vote still means something.  And nobody pulled out, so we still have all of the candidates.  I've tried to convince my democratic friends to come across the aisle and vote on the republican side (after a healthy pitch for Ron Paul's crossover appeal :)), since their vote really is garbage if they choose to cast a Democrat ballot.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Gixer on January 07, 2008, 04:40:22 PM
Don't worry guys, even with choices as bad as they are and your coming to the end of your worst president in history. Your savior is almost here.

(http://draftgore.com/DG_Logo1.jpg)

:D

...-Gixer
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: SIG220 on January 07, 2008, 04:52:22 PM
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Originally posted by Tarmac

Michigan was a pretty tight toss up, especially among blacks who revere the Clinton name but also would like a black dude.


That was prior to Iowa, though.  Now that Obama is considered to be a viable candidate that can win, I doubt many black Americans are going to vote for Hillary.

Obama is deeply moving audiences with his speeches.  At one recent appearance in New Hampshire, the press reported that there were women openly weeping after he spoke.

SIG 220
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tarmac on January 07, 2008, 05:05:07 PM
Very true.  There was a lot of speculation that blacks weren't more widely supporting Obama because they thought he couldn't win... that America would never elect a black man.  Iowa puts a big hole in that theory, so who knows how things will turn out when the Michigan democrats cast their useless ballots.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Gixer on January 07, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SIG220
Obama is deeply moving audiences with his speeches.  At one recent appearance in New Hampshire, the press reported that there were women openly weeping after he spoke.

SIG 220



Really, do woman do anything but cry?  Oprah only has to walk into a room and scream and they cry. Maybe she was there as well?

Deeply moving audiences, I doubt it would take much, maybe a couple of tearful looks into the camera that you think the country/world is doomed unless I'm elected as president.

From what I've seen on TV he does the puppy look better then most.


...-Gixer
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Ripsnort on January 07, 2008, 05:12:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mickey1992
I have really come to the conclusion that she wants to be president just to be president.  There really is no underlying desire to serve her country.  New York was just a stepping stone.
The minute she made her move for the senate in NY my wife and I suspected it was the stepping stone to running for POTUS.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Halo on January 07, 2008, 05:18:02 PM
Tears are tricky.  Too few, insensitive.  Too many, wimp.  


TEARING UP THE ELECTION

Trickle, trickle, little star,
now you wonder where you are.
One or two and you'll go far.
Three or four and out the door.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: mg1942 on January 07, 2008, 05:27:44 PM
Assuming if B.H. Obama wins the primaries...

Will B.H. Obama Take H.R. Clinton as the Vice President?
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tango on January 07, 2008, 05:56:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mg1942
Assuming if B.H. Obama wins the primaries...

Will B.H. Obama Take H.R. Clinton as the Vice President?


She already was VP for 8 years.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Charon on January 07, 2008, 06:24:49 PM
Are you crying? Are you crying? Are you crying? There's no crying! There’s no crying in the Presidency!

Charon
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: EagleDNY on January 07, 2008, 06:47:38 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mg1942
Assuming if B.H. Obama wins the primaries...

Will B.H. Obama Take H.R. Clinton as the Vice President?


Not if he is smart he won't.  Hillary has huge negatives, and there are much better choices he can make for VP.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 07, 2008, 06:55:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mg1942
Assuming if B.H. Obama wins the primaries...

Will B.H. Obama Take H.R. Clinton as the Vice President?



He won't do it because of the baggage she carries with her and she won't do it because her ego won't allow her to become VP.

ack-ack
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: AKIron on January 07, 2008, 06:55:21 PM
She's trying to appear human, ain't foolin' me.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: AWMac on January 07, 2008, 07:09:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AKIron
She's trying to appear human, ain't foolin' me.

:rofl :aok :D
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: eskimo2 on January 07, 2008, 08:02:59 PM
LePaul,
You left out the best thing on that page; bottom right: Water Skiing Dog!
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: sgt203 on January 08, 2008, 03:27:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
Don't worry guys, even with choices as bad as they are and your coming to the end of your worst president in history. Your savior is almost here.
 


Worst President in history im not so sure.. I still remember this clown who used to be a Peanut Farmer.

#1 all time worst in my book.

Bad on Economy, Bad on defense, but recently he did a wonderful job for our country with North Korea..

But then again there was the craze of "Billy Beer"... Even that wasnt good but at least it was something..

Guess Who??
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Gixer on January 08, 2008, 04:54:34 AM
I think the Peanut Farmer pales in comparison I don't recall him invading other countries under false allegations.

Environment,War Crimes,International Policy,Iraq,Economy,Justice,Honesty and that's just a few. I don't think you can count North Korea as a win, as they got the bomb!

Really it's no wonder the current Republican Runners stay clear of anything to do with Bush. Plus he's keeping a very low profile himself.

What's his approval rating these days? Over 20%?

Funny, 5 years ago I thought Bush was an idiot for invading Iraq and starting a Quagmire, many believed the WMD and the war would last only a couple months at most. Pro Bush fans shot me down at the time and sent all sorts of messages. But even they have finally realized the lame duck that he is.

History won't be kind to Bush,Rumsfeld and Cheney. I just hope US can recover quickly from the fiasco and not end up in a long recession.


...-Gixer
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: lazs2 on January 08, 2008, 08:51:06 AM
most evil people have one thing that is very important to them and will cry when it looks like they aren't going to get it.

It doesn't make em less evil or more human.

She is an evil person who is nothing but a ball of desire for one thing.. it is her whole life.. she will have a spectacular meltdown..   worse than algores was if she is denied.

lazs
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 08, 2008, 09:08:26 AM
I don't care if shes evil, or if she is a crybaby.  If she follows up on her promise of investing 50 billion dollars in alternative fuels, then she will be the best President ever.  The implications of that are a cheap fuel source for Americans, and cutting the money train to the Middle East.

The technology is there, the scientists are willing and able.  All they need is the funding.  Grass into gas.  Hillary in 2008!
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: lazs2 on January 08, 2008, 09:18:44 AM
where did hillary get 50 billion dollars to "invest" in alternative fuels and..  has she found some magical government agency that functions well to give her wealth to?

If she tries to get the money from me and mine then she is indeed evil eh?

lazs
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tango on January 08, 2008, 09:28:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
What's his approval rating these days? Over 20%?


Hes got 35%. Its the Democratic congress your thinking of.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 08, 2008, 09:37:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
where did hillary get 50 billion dollars to "invest" in alternative fuels and..  has she found some magical government agency that functions well to give her wealth to?

If she tries to get the money from me and mine then she is indeed evil eh?

lazs


Quote
A $50 billion Strategic Energy Fund, paid for in part by oil companies, to fund investments in alternative energy. The SEF will finance one-third of the $150 billon ten-year investment in a new energy future contained in this plan;


Wow, its really 150 billion she wants to invest.  This is a smart woman.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Gixer on January 08, 2008, 01:39:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AquaShrimp
I don't care if shes evil, or if she is a crybaby.  If she follows up on her promise of investing 50 billion dollars in alternative fuels, then she will be the best President ever.  The implications of that are a cheap fuel source for Americans, and cutting the money train to the Middle East.

The technology is there, the scientists are willing and able.  All they need is the funding.  Grass into gas.  Hillary in 2008!


50 billion, I guess when your running for president you can make up any figure you like. It's a political promise.  :lol

Technology, what technology? Until there is an alternative to cheap oil the world will never sever it's ties to it. Unless of course the world runs out altogether but there will be a few good wars before that happens.

Same deal goes with Energy, you can have all the sun farms and windmills you like but until there is a cheap alternative to coal and oil that's what we've got.

And by the way for all you greenies that constantly go on about wind and solar farms. They might be able to power a lightbulb in your house but they are a long way from being able to power a grid. Most the power they create gets sucked into keeping the powerline current active.


...-Gixer
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Gixer on January 08, 2008, 01:41:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Tango
Hes got 35%. Its the Democratic congress your thinking of.


I was thinking more public opinion, politicans usually have their "own" reasons.  :lol


...-Gixer
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: john9001 on January 08, 2008, 01:47:15 PM
the govt is already funding alternative fuels, your are just not allowed to know it.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Getback on January 08, 2008, 01:52:02 PM
Yep the Peanut Farmer was horrible.

I think the worse though was Johnson, He used Kennedy's name to pass all those horrible government giveaway programs that Kennedy didn't openly support. Next would be, The peanut farmer, Nixon and then Clinton as the worse presidents. Bush I think is way better than those guys and I'm not big fan of either Bush.

In fact we should tell Jeb Don't even think about.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Spazzter on January 08, 2008, 02:05:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Speed55
That was awesome!!!! sniffle sniffle,    That's definitely the figurehead we need as our president.  I can see it now, her losing an argument, bolting off the stage, running to her room and slamming the door? :cry
I wont come out untiw da big bad man goes away....


Can you imagine that with a foreign dignitary.  In my opinion the only reason anyone would vote for her is to see the first woman president.  Sniffling is exactly why a woman should not be president, same reason they should not serve on the frontlines of war.


Spazz
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: lazs2 on January 08, 2008, 02:08:16 PM
aquashrimp..  do you really believe that if you gouge the oil companies (who are making a whopping 9% profit) that if you gouge them for 50 billion...

you don't think that it will show up at the pump in increased price?   are you really that naive?  

Yeah....  tax the rich... that's the ticket.   Are people really that dumb?

lazs
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: john9001 on January 08, 2008, 02:11:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
Yeah....  tax the rich... that's the ticket.   Are people really that dumb?

lazs



yes.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: lazs2 on January 08, 2008, 02:15:33 PM
reminds me of some sayings...

The democrats only want to keep guns out of the wrong hands... guess what... you have the wrong hands.

The democrats only want to tax the rich.. guess what... you are the rich.

lazs
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: AquaShrimp on January 08, 2008, 02:26:10 PM
Thats chicken-little talk.  "It'll never work!".

Somewhere else, I saw that Hillary was planning on removing the tax breaks from corporations, not just oil companies.

The two alternative fuel technologies that are extremely promising are algae reactors and cellulose ethanol.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: mietla on January 08, 2008, 05:09:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Halo
Tears are tricky.  Too few, insensitive.  Too many, wimp.  



Yeah. Good thing we don't have this problem with snot.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Tango on January 08, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Somewhere else, I saw that Hillary was planning on removing the tax breaks from corporations, not just oil companies.


Ah yes, lets just send even more jobs to other countries.
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: sgt203 on January 09, 2008, 04:44:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
I think the Peanut Farmer pales in comparison I don't recall him invading other countries under false allegations.

Environment,War Crimes,International Policy,Iraq,Economy,Justice,Honesty and that's just a few. I don't think you can count North Korea as a win, as they got the bomb!



The peanut farmer was not ABLE to invade any other country under any pretext, he so badly denutted the armed forces. Heck they couldnt even invade an empty desert for goodness sake at that time..

And for the record I know that North Korea was not a "win" I was being a lil bit funny there.. :D
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: -tronski- on January 09, 2008, 05:05:26 AM
The current administration can find $1 trillion dollars for the Iraq war, then $50-150 billion doesn't seem so much

 Tronsky
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: lazs2 on January 09, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
aqua.. it is a never ending source of amazement for me that there are people out there like you who feel that taxes don't affect them..

that only the bad guys are gonna be punished by taxes and that big government is the good guys.. that every single tax on "corporations" and the evil oil companies will just be sucked up by them and not passed on to us... and then...

As if that isn't moronic enough.. then you believe that the government can use that money efficiently and make things happen.   more so than private industry.

What it really amounts to in my experience is that some people are young or older and bitter and short sighted.. they think that they are "poor" and everyone else is rich and that when they vote to raise taxes it will only be on people better off than them who..  already have too much.. too much being.. more than them..

The real thing is that people who are better off than you will not feel that $5 a gallon at the pump as much as you..  they will drive while you will get poorer and not drive as much.. the money will go to the government where god couldn't even track it down after a year or two of the tax and nothing will get done until some individual comes up with a solution at which point.. the government will take credit.

lazs
Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: Red Tail 444 on January 09, 2008, 09:20:13 AM
All I could think of was "a League of their Own."

"Crying? There's no CRYING in baseball!"



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Title: Sniffle sniffle Hillary...
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 09, 2008, 11:38:38 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Tango
Ah yes, lets just send even more jobs to other countries.


There's nothing that's gonna stop that, Unless you wish to work for the same wages' that workers' in Mexico, India, and China make.

Or, of course...Maybe tariff's, Like the ones' other countries' impose upon OUR goods, that makes' building a factory inside the U.S. economically feasible again. Too bad were stuck in things' like NAFTA, and the WTO.