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Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Ripsnort on January 07, 2008, 07:25:14 PM
I think Lazs will enjoy the first one, big block.  Viking will most likely applaud the last. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUq58mZUWm0
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: AWMac on January 07, 2008, 07:31:50 PM
(http://www.usounds.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/keithrichards.jpg)
Keith Richards, Great Britain!

I WIN!!! :aok

Wait.... did I read to much into this thread?

Mac
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: mg1942 on January 07, 2008, 07:34:20 PM
The last burnout...
gotta love that Tunak Tunak soundtrack from Daler Mehndi :cool:
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Bronk on January 07, 2008, 07:37:51 PM
Or when one vehicle just wont do.
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De3_IWrNJnA
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: soda72 on January 07, 2008, 07:51:15 PM
Notice the iraqi isn't fat....

:D
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 07, 2008, 07:54:25 PM
What people dont seem to get is while Yes. Burnouts can look and sound cool.  Is that your  wasting alot of good tire rubber not going anywhere fast.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Yeager on January 07, 2008, 07:56:19 PM
I kept waiting (hoping) a Humvee would come along and make a 2-D pasty out of the dork!  Kudos for gumption though :aok
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: AWMac on January 07, 2008, 07:56:36 PM
Quote
Originally quoted by Keith Richards
What people dont seem to get is while Yes. Burnouts can look and sound cool.  Is that your  wasting alot of good tire rubber not going anywhere fast.


:D

Mac
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Bronk on January 07, 2008, 07:58:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
What people dont seem to get is while Yes. Burnouts can look and sound cool.  Is that your  wasting alot of good tire rubber not going anywhere fast.

yes mom we know. ;)
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 07, 2008, 08:05:40 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
What people dont seem to get is while Yes. Burnouts can look and sound cool.  Is that your  wasting alot of good tire rubber not going anywhere fast.


Our race car tends to spin a lot if we skip the burn out.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 07, 2008, 08:32:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Our race car tends to spin a lot if we skip the burn out.


Yes but you do the burnout to heat up the tires to make them sticky before the race actually happens no?

Once the race actually starts the last thing you want to be doing is running in place doing a burnout. correct?

Safe bet that off the track most people doing burnouts on the street is to look cool and they think the car is going fast that way..
the first car in the video is a classic example of what Im talking about.
Looks cool as hell but look how long it takes him to actually start going anywhere, and once he does how long it takes for him to get that car upto any kind of respectable speed
Ifanother car were next to him racing .
A car with less power but more traction could win that race.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 07, 2008, 08:51:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Yes but you do the burnout to heat up the tires to make them sticky before the race actually happens no?

Once the race actually starts the last thing you want to be doing is running in place doing a burnout. correct?

Safe bet that off the track most people doing burnouts on the street is to look cool and they think the car is going fast that way..
the first car in the video is a classic example of what Im talking about.
Looks cool as hell but look how long it takes him to actually start going anywhere, and once he does how long it takes for him to get that car upto any kind of respectable speed
Ifanother car were next to him racing .
A car with less power but more traction could win that race.


What they were doing in the video was showing off, though. When I used to meet people a few miles' outside of town on a farm road on Sat. night's a decade + ago, We'd usually both do a quick burnout to(1.)Heat up the tires' and make them a little 'tackier', The same thing that Virgil's describing. (2.) Put a little bit of hot rubber down at the starting line, to give yourself something to launch off of, Since we weren't at Famoso, with 60 ft. of Concrete starting-line with generations' of rubber already there.(3.)It cleans' the dirt off, so you don't have anything compromising the 'footprint' of your tire. A real serious racer will do some kind of burnout, especially if he's pushing alotta power.

The pimple-faced, baseball-hat-on-sideways', Glued-on-wing-as-big-as-the-rest-of-the-car, No-runnin', Not-enough-horsepower-to-be-the-starter-motor-on-a-small-block-chevy kid in a mid '90's civic will do a burnout, too. But only because they think that's some kind of social thing. They usually don't understand the science behind it(If they did, they would realize the futility of pitting a FWD 4-banger against a 350+cube Firebird, Camaro, Mustang, Charger, Plymouth Roadrunner, Chevelle, Fairlane, etc.)

Edit: There's a lot of cars' out there with enough power, that even with a decent burnout, have to 'soft pedal' off the line. It takes alot of experimentation to find the right launch RPM and amount of throttle with any given car. The best way is to go to a drag stip with a Friday-night grudge program, run your car through tech, and starting with your first pass, work on getting your 60-ft. time down as low as you can.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: moot on January 07, 2008, 09:06:26 PM
He wasn't racing.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 07, 2008, 09:09:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by moot
He wasn't racing.


I probably should have just said that-My fingers' are sore now! :lol
Title: Re: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: JB73 on January 07, 2008, 10:03:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Viking will most likely applaud the last. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUq58mZUWm0
I'm sorry GS but duyammn you got pwned!!!! LOL
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: JB73 on January 07, 2008, 10:09:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Or when one vehicle just wont do.
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De3_IWrNJnA
what kind of s--- bike was that??? some 80cc honda with body kits?



W A S T E of my 2 minutes :furious
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Cougar68 on January 07, 2008, 10:09:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Looks cool as hell but look how long it takes him to actually start going anywhere, and once he does how long it takes for him to get that car upto any kind of respectable speed
Ifanother car were next to him racing .
A car with less power but more traction could win that race.


The reason he isn't going anywhere is because he's holding the brake as well as the gas.  He sat there, on purpose, smoking the tires until he decided he wanted to go.  As others have said, it wasn't a display of acceleration but of power.  And once he let off the brake, it was gone even with the tire spin.

Second car is going to get someone hurt.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: john9001 on January 07, 2008, 10:41:35 PM
unless you are using a line lock on the brakes, holding the brakes on and spinning the tires will overheat the transmission, do it too many times and you will be rebuilding the transmission.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 08, 2008, 12:13:26 AM
Not really. If you have drums, most often they are left loose, and if you have discs, they are most often turned down by the bias valve. Never burned a transmission up doing burnouts. If you DO NOT spin the tires, you might burn up the converter by generating too much heat from stalling it.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 08, 2008, 03:01:13 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Not really. If you have drums, most often they are left loose, and if you have discs, they are most often turned down by the bias valve. Never burned a transmission up doing burnouts. If you DO NOT spin the tires, you might burn up the converter by generating too much heat from stalling it.

Or pop a transmission-cooler line and start a helluva fire.

I used to do a little bit of Bracket racing on Friday nights' at the track. Since there weren't many cars' entering, they used to run the 11.99 and faster guys' with all of us slower street cars. This resulted in some kinda wide-spread indexes. In the second round of that nights' eliminations, a guy in a Tubbed Vette with a 9.02 dial and all the boxes' pulled up to race a dude in an old Late '60's Chysler Imperial who had a 22.50 dial. The difference in the dial times, for those who aren't familiar with Bracket racing, is what is called an 'index'. Your 'Index' is what you claim your car will run in the 1/4 mile, starting as soon as your car breaks' the staging beam when you get the green. Anyway, the Corvette staged, and set his transbrake, linelock, delay box, etc. when the Imperial did. The Imperial get's his light, and goes. During all this time, The vet was run up against his Trans-brake, Bouncing off the rev-limiter, waiting for his tree. Since 22.50 (imperial) - 9.02 (Vette) = 12.98, The Corvette was riding the Trans-brake for an AWFULLY long time. As soon as he released, he popped the lines' off of his Tranny, Starting a fire that spread from under the hood of the 'Vette to inside of the Drivers' compartment. He got it pulled over at half-track and bailed out okay, But the 'Vette was pretty badly burned up.

It was kinda funny I remembered those' indexes, but they were what was found to be the root cause of the problem.
Title: Re: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Viking on January 08, 2008, 03:44:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ripsnort
I think Lazs will enjoy the first one, big block.  Viking will most likely applaud the last. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUq58mZUWm0



Lol, no I liked the first one too. It was clearly better than the stupid and dangerous BMW one. The Iraqi one was impressive, but not like the hotrod.

I am howerver more partial to this 1100 hp BMW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFP-6BWwidM



Here it is on the track at Rudskogen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8gChRI95do


;)
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Gixer on January 08, 2008, 05:06:10 AM
C'mon Mate! You left out Australia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4gqpWdWplU
:D

...-Gixer
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Viking on January 08, 2008, 06:50:35 AM
Awesome Gixer! :aok
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Xasthur on January 08, 2008, 06:58:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
C'mon Mate! You left out Australia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4gqpWdWplU
:D

...-Gixer


Nice one, Gixer. I have to say, out of the videos here so far we definitely won the burnout comp.

:lol
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: SirLoin on January 08, 2008, 07:30:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Or when one vehicle just wont do.
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De3_IWrNJnA



The Redneck Song(to the music of the Lumberjack song)

I'm a redneck and I'm ok
I sleep all night and I drink all day

I wear no shirt,have a confederate flag
On the back of my pickup truck
I wish I was a Klansman
I am a real ****up

(Chorus)

I'm a redneck and i'm ok
I sleep all night and i drink all day
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 08, 2008, 07:45:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Or pop a transmission-cooler line and start a helluva fire.

I used to do a little bit of Bracket racing on Friday nights' at the track. Since there weren't many cars' entering, they used to run the 11.99 and faster guys' with all of us slower street cars. This resulted in some kinda wide-spread indexes. In the second round of that nights' eliminations, a guy in a Tubbed Vette with a 9.02 dial and all the boxes' pulled up to race a dude in an old Late '60's Chysler Imperial who had a 22.50 dial. The difference in the dial times, for those who aren't familiar with Bracket racing, is what is called an 'index'. Your 'Index' is what you claim your car will run in the 1/4 mile, starting as soon as your car breaks' the staging beam when you get the green. Anyway, the Corvette staged, and set his transbrake, linelock, delay box, etc. when the Imperial did. The Imperial get's his light, and goes. During all this time, The vet was run up against his Trans-brake, Bouncing off the rev-limiter, waiting for his tree. Since 22.50 (imperial) - 9.02 (Vette) = 12.98, The Corvette was riding the Trans-brake for an AWFULLY long time. As soon as he released, he popped the lines' off of his Tranny, Starting a fire that spread from under the hood of the 'Vette to inside of the Drivers' compartment. He got it pulled over at half-track and bailed out okay, But the 'Vette was pretty badly burned up.

It was kinda funny I remembered those' indexes, but they were what was found to be the root cause of the problem.



Yeah, well, you cannot account for the fact that some people will be dumb enough to use rubber cooler lines. I use steel tubing or stainless steel braided hose.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: moot on January 08, 2008, 07:46:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
C'mon Mate! You left out Australia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4gqpWdWplU
:D

...-Gixer

Awesome :lol   Machinery going out the way it was meant to.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: lazs2 on January 08, 2008, 08:03:29 AM
my cars are sticks..  they won't do some on the line burnout with the front wheels locked unless I were to add a line lock and I see no reason for it.

They are street cars.   The big block does big block things tho.. like chirping the tires at 60 if you just stomp the pedal hard or... if you are going ten mph and stomp it.. the tires just go up in smoke for a sec then haze as the car accelerates..   the Healey..  well.. it is a different story it is evil.   It tends to move around a bit.

Burnouts are fun..  I like the way the engine sounds and the way the rear end moves around and the smell of tire smoke.   everyone loves to see a good burnout (keith richards aside).    If the motor sounds good while it is being done..   If the car has the right attitude while it is being done.

lazs
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 08, 2008, 05:38:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Cougar68
The reason he isn't going anywhere is because he's holding the brake as well as the gas.  He sat there, on purpose, smoking the tires until he decided he wanted to go.  As others have said, it wasn't a display of acceleration but of power.  And once he let off the brake, it was gone even with the tire spin.

Second car is going to get someone hurt.


I know what he was doing. Still when he did decide to go. he didnt exactly shoot out of the gate figurativly speaking.

And yes he was showing off.
He was also wasting as I originally stated. Good rubber off of the tires.

I used to do the same jackarse stuff with my 70 1/2 Camaro back in the day.

Eventually stopped the practice cause I got tired of needing new tires
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 08, 2008, 07:18:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I know what he was doing. Still when he did decide to go. he didnt exactly shoot out of the gate figurativly speaking.

And yes he was showing off.
He was also wasting as I originally stated. Good rubber off of the tires.

I used to do the same jackarse stuff with my 70 1/2 Camaro back in the day.

Eventually stopped the practice cause I got tired of needing new tires


If he has enough extra dough to build that Street rod, chances are, a new set of back tires aren't going to kill him.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: FrodeMk3 on January 08, 2008, 07:20:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
my cars are sticks..  they won't do some on the line burnout with the front wheels locked unless I were to add a line lock and I see no reason for it.

They are street cars.   The big block does big block things tho.. like chirping the tires at 60 if you just stomp the pedal hard or... if you are going ten mph and stomp it.. the tires just go up in smoke for a sec then haze as the car accelerates..   the Healey..  well.. it is a different story it is evil.   It tends to move around a bit.

Burnouts are fun..  I like the way the engine sounds and the way the rear end moves around and the smell of tire smoke.   everyone loves to see a good burnout (keith richards aside).    If the motor sounds good while it is being done..   If the car has the right attitude while it is being done.

lazs


You oughta see some of those Aussie machines, Lasz. They end their burnout's when the motor let's go.
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: KgB on January 08, 2008, 10:35:23 PM
BMW one is from Eastern Europe,maybe Russia. That yellow bus is Hungarian "Ikarus":rofl
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: Gixer on January 09, 2008, 02:54:01 AM
Quote
Originally posted by FrodeMk3
You oughta see some of those Aussie machines, Lasz. They end their burnout's when the motor let's go.



And you should see what they do with their Trucks! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoWjcvKnixI


...-Gixer
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: BlueJ1 on January 09, 2008, 03:14:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gixer
And you should see what they do with their Trucks! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoWjcvKnixI


...-Gixer


Wow
Title: Burn outs from around the world
Post by: lazs2 on January 09, 2008, 08:40:36 AM
yep... define "waste".

If it is fun for the person paying the bill for it then it is not waste.

lazs