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Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: fmjnax on January 09, 2008, 10:55:08 AM
Overall, I understand the concept, how they are calculated, what they are for, etc. I just can't seem to grasp the difference between using ENY or OBJ as part of the equation. When is ENY used and when is OBJ used?
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: forHIM on January 09, 2008, 11:12:12 AM
Have you checked:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/perks.html

Check under the earning perk points section header.
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: Lusche on January 09, 2008, 11:15:44 AM
ENY is used when shooting other players, OBJ when destroying objects (bombing a factory or a VH for example).
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: Latrobe on January 09, 2008, 11:21:30 AM
ENY - When one country gets an overwhelming advantage in numbers over the other two countries. ENY will stop them from flying "good" planes such as La-7's and Spit16's. ENY really does not affect perks except for keeping you from flying them.

Example: Bish - 134  Nits - 98  Rooks - 95, Bish would have an Min-ENY that will prevent them from flying "good" planes.


NOTE: # In-Flight does not affect ENY, it's how many are on that country currently whether in-flight, in-tower, or afk.





OBJ - OBJ just tells you what plane/vehicle will get you the must perks for destroying objects (buildings, ammo factories, etc etc).

Example: A plane with OBJ of 5 won't get you as many perks for destroying a town building as a plane with an OBJ of 20.
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: fmjnax on January 09, 2008, 11:22:44 AM
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Originally posted by forHIM
Have you checked:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/perks.html

Check under the earning perk points section header.


Yes, I sure did. In fact, that is the information that stemmed my question. ;) It doesn't clearly state what Lusche stated below. I suppose it could be implied, but I don't like to assume things.

Thanks Lusche for the clarification.
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: yankedudel on January 09, 2008, 11:48:50 AM
Thanks to Lusche and Fmjnax.  

I never knew what anyone was talking about when they mentioned ENY but never had the marbles to ask on the BBS.  Thanks fmj for having them to ask.

Yank
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: BaldEagl on January 09, 2008, 12:07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Latrobe
ENY really does not affect perks except for keeping you from flying them.


Wrong.  ENY was first introduced as a way of calculating perks.  The ENY restrictions on planes were introduced later as a means of balancing play in the arenas.

From a post I made in the Bug Reports forum under the topic "Lost Points":

The higher ENY plane you fly and the lower ENY plane you shoot down the more perks you get.

For instance, shooting down a Spit XVI with a Spit XVI and landing gets you about 1.25 perks. Shooting down a Spit XVI with a Hurricane MkI and dying gets you about 11 perks.

These numbers are dependant on a number of factors beyond simple ENY and are meant only to illustrate the point but learning to fly the more difficult planes has it's rewards.
Title: Perk Points Plus
Post by: Daubie on January 09, 2008, 06:56:18 PM
I have also noticed when membership numbers are reduced in the arenas EW or MW when I capture a field, sometimes my perk points are something like 1.85 for the capture, other times it will be 40 or more.  I capture fields a lot solo, even with a few opponents on.   And also it is true fightin other stuff.  Like pinball I like it when I have perk bonus to play with and don't squander the opportunity.

This game is a lot like chess where strategy is useful and sneaky stealth attacks or wait 'em out tactics prove useful.  Is that blinking base really a glitch or somebody hiding and waiting?  Bug out in the grass and if you don't land successful, bet somebody is out there waitin.

More difficult planes?  I am gettin used to flying the higher eny planes so not to be bothered by the hassle of not flyin what I want at the lower numbers.  That Studka can take out a cruiser in one pass.

Guys whine about being sneaky.  But surprise has always been a useful tactic in war.
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: Latrobe on January 09, 2008, 09:52:15 PM
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Wrong.  ENY was first introduced as a way of calculating perks.  The ENY restrictions on planes were introduced later as a means of balancing play in the arenas.

From a post I made in the Bug Reports forum under the topic "Lost Points":

The higher ENY plane you fly and the lower ENY plane you shoot down the more perks you get.

For instance, shooting down a Spit XVI with a Spit XVI and landing gets you about 1.25 perks. Shooting down a Spit XVI with a Hurricane MkI and dying gets you about 11 perks.

These numbers are dependant on a number of factors beyond simple ENY and are meant only to illustrate the point but learning to fly the more difficult planes has it's rewards.


I was explaining ENY as in Min-ENY for a country, not plane ENY. That was my fault, forgot about the ENY for planes :o .
Title: Help explain Perk Points...
Post by: humble on January 09, 2008, 11:07:15 PM
Perks are the thing you desperately want when you dont have them, and never use once you do.